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Self Control & Cheese

Sara Pion and Bridget Poetker

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Hey hi welcome this is Self Control & Cheese, your go-to podcast for conversations that aren't happening about career growth and personal and professional development that SHOULD be happening. We're two 20-somethings that have seen our fair share of things, working at two of the fastest growing Tech companies in the United States and growing our careers in tech without the absolute bullshit that happens in the tech world. Come hang out with us! Seriously, we have an email list, come hang: ht ...
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B2B influencer marketing feels like the Wild West right now. The code isn't cracked, and success strategies are elusive. However, in B2C, influencer marketing is a revenue powerhouse—repeatable, scalable, and impactful. Through this podcast, we'll dissect influencer marketing campaigns and programs, forge lasting partnerships that foster audience trust, and glean insights from top leaders and influencers in the field. Whether you're crafting your inaugural influencer marketing initiative or ...
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In this episode, host Brianna Doe sits down with marketer and influencer Bridget Poetker to delve into the nuances of influencer marketing and share strategies for building successful, authentic partnerships with creators. ================================ Best Moments: (03:30) The debate: Macro vs. Micro influencers—Which is better? (05:31) The ben…
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In this episode of Stop the Scroll, Brianna Doe and Obaid Durrani talk about how Obaid builds and perceives effective influencer marketing programs, creating media engines within companies, developing frameworks to scale content creation, and more! Best Moments: (01:47) The 8-part "Easy Mode" framework for enabling B2B companies to build in-house m…
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In this episode of Stop the Scroll, host Brianna Doe interviews Katie Penner, Head of Sender Relations at Sendoso. They talk about the Sendfluencer influencer marketing program she built. You'll learn how Bri approached building an influencer program focused on driving pipeline and revenue rather than just vanity metrics, tips for identifying and v…
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In this episode of Stop the Scroll, host Brianna Doe interviews social media strategist Christina Le about influencer marketing, specifically around budgeting and getting fair compensation. They discuss the differences between influencer marketing and creator marketing, strategies for negotiating rates, and building strong partnerships between bran…
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In this episode of "Stop the Scroll", host Brianna Doe shares tips for influencers on how to effectively partner with B2B brands. You will learn key strategies for consistent content creation, building engagement, establishing a unique point of view, growing a quality audience, and making yourself accessible to potential brand partners. ===========…
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In this episode of Stop the Scroll, host Brianna Doe gives content creators and influencers tips for when they look to partner with B2B brands. You'll learn about what marketers look for in influencer partners and why B2B influencer marketing is different from B2C. Listeners can expect to learn how to create an effective media kit to showcase thems…
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In this episode of "Stop the Scroll", host Brianna Doe discusses what influencers look for when partnering with brands on influencer marketing campaigns. You'll also hear how brands can effectively collaborate with influencers to drive results. ================================================================= Best Moments: (01:04) Importance of set…
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