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Pretty Hard

Erika Geraerts & Ellen Jenkinson

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Pretty Hard is all about discussing what we feel when we think about our relationship to beauty - how it's changed over time, what we've been and are currently influenced by, what we're trying to change, and of course, how hard it is to run (and consume) a beauty brand in today's digital age. A podcast by Fluff, a beauty brand that believes it’s ok to feel more with makeup, so long as you don’t feel less without it. A series of honest conversations: thoughts and feelings with founder, Erika ...
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One Wild Ride is the exploration of a more meaningful life. A place where personal stories collide with good business and positive impact. Here we dive deep into the mindset, musings and strategies of incredible humans doing extraordinary things. Theirs are stories of positivity, hope, expansion and evolution. Host Pru Chapman knows good business. As the founder of Owners Collective she has helped over 15,000 founders launch, leverage, and lead their businesses. She's passionate about using ...
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Erika Geraerts is the founder of cult beauty brand Fluff. Fluff was created in 2018 as an antidote to the current beauty industry narrative, for anyone who thinks that the world doesn't need more products, just better products, and responsible, transparent messaging. Their products are all about keeping it simple: good for your skin, your thoughts,…
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Jasmin Daly is the Executive Director of Ingrained Foundation, a not-for-profit funding platform taking an interconnected and collaborative approach to improving social and environmental wellbeing. Based on Bundjalung Country (Northern NSW), Ingrained has donated over $2 million in the last 5 years to focus on resilience, well-being, inclusion, div…
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Lydia O'Donnell is a Marathon Athlete, Nike Pacific Run Coach, and the Co-Founder of Femmi, a dedicated running app for women, focused around learning about one's cycle and it's impact on movement and exercise, as well as a weekly run community across Australia and NZ. We met a few years ago and eventually joined the Femmi run club, which has been …
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Frankie Layton is the founder of The Dirt Company, Australia’s first circular packaging brand. Frankie’s passion for sustainability began while working on superyachts, witnessing ocean waste. With a background in strategic consulting, she launched The Dirt Company to tackle household product packaging waste. Since 2017, The Dirt Company has gained …
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Sam Guggenheimer is the co-host of Just For Girls, a podcast discussing everything that plays out in the day to life of just that, being a girl. We loved talking to Sam because she had a very balanced perspective on the work she's doing in her industry and within the social media space. We get stuck into topics including growing up around a camera,…
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Lucinda Price is a writer, comedian, and performance artist. We've crossed paths over the last ten years, and have wanted to talk to Lucinda in detail for a while. We finally got the opportunity and we loved the amount of crossover we had, being writers and working in advertising and media. We talk a lot about her upcoming book, titled, ALL I EVER …
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Nicole Velik is a leading speaker, facilitator, and trainer in innovation and creativity. As the founder of The Ideas Bodega and the host of the podcast Creativity Unpacked, as well as CreativeMornings Sydney, she has dedicated herself to demystifying creativity and making it accessible to everyone. With a background in advertising, including stint…
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Jane Marx is a social entrepreneur committed to empowering marginalized women through meaningful employment. Amidst the pandemic, she founded The Beautiful Bunch, focusing on supporting young women from refugee backgrounds facing barriers to work. Join us for an honest discussion on the challenges and triumphs of launching and running a social ente…
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Brooke is a powerhouse in the product industry. She spent six years helping scale lululemon, where she managed stores, led operations, and eventually oversaw $100 million in retail stores as the Australia/NZ Area Director. She went on to become the Country Manager of Cotton On managing over 200 stores and more than $250M in sales. From there she mo…
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@lesley__hunter came into Fluff's world for one of our campaign photoshoots and we fell in love with her curiosity, energy, and approach to beauty. In this episode we discuss her experience with beauty over time, through motherhood, work, and yoga, and the journey of connecting and discovering herself. As a 62-year-old model we get stuck into the i…
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"You’ll care less, strive further, and feel more,” Leonie Akhidenor is the host of the Parenthood Podcast, a model, and mother, who was introduced to Fluff via mutual connections. In this conversation we explore her experience as a bi-racial woman growing up in Australia, her journey through pre and post natal depression, and her learnings from hun…
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Kylie is a Leadership Developer and Founder of Of Kin, a training organisation specialising in building brave leaders and courageous cultures. She is a certified executive coach, psychological safety practitioner and facilitator of Dr Brené Brown’s curricula on courage, vulnerability, shame and resilience (The Daring Way™ & Dare To Lead™), and curr…
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Dr Marion Piper believes that life’s challenges and traumas are actually an invitation to get creative, a way to turn our pain into Art and kick-start the process of post-traumatic growth. This is what fuelled her PhD research and informs the work she does today inspiring ambitious Creatives to find their voice and embrace creativity as a form of s…
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Kaylene Langford, a proud Guringai woman, passionate entrepreneur, coach, writer and speaker, and the founder and owner of StartUp Creative, a hugely popular online platform, podcast, and print magazine that educates, inspires, and supports creative entrepreneurs and future innovators. She has over a decade of experience coaching, educating and sup…
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Sam Wood is a father, husband, and self-proclaimed 'fitness guy'. Having worked in the health industry for almost 2 decades, we were keen to discuss with Sam the idea of beauty under the lens of aesthetic vs mental and emotional health. This was a beautiful discussion about how Sam sees and has experienced himself as a man, his role as a father of …
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We spoke to Erin Deering a year ago on the podcast and since then, a lot has happened. Erin has had a melanoma removed from her face, her breast implants removed, and has launched her memoir, Hanging by a Thread. "My face looks like mine again." We discuss how the last year's events have impacted how she feels about herself and her internal vs exte…
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Jessica Defino is a former editor for the Kardashian-Jenner Apps and a freelance beauty journalist for The New York Times, Vogue, WWD, Allure, and more. Jessica's writing has influenced Fluff greatly, being beauty-critical content that publications can’t, won’t, or don’t cover. In this episode we discuss the idea of beauty behaviours as coping mech…
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Ziggy is a yoga, philosophy and meditation teacher and guide, bridging disciplines from the East and West. Having studied extensively in India, as well as his current Psychology studies in Melbourne, he’s also played semi-professional soccer for the last decade, giving him a unique insight into team success and performance. In this chat we explore …
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Aumi is a fashion designer and brand mentor. She made the leap from the finance world after finding her community at Burning Man and a home in NY in 2012. We discuss the importance of finding your people and your place - and the freedom it allows. Aumi opens up about her own limiting beliefs and exploring new ways of seeing herself. We look at her …
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Justine Curtis is the founder of Inspired Adventures, the original and leading charity challenge agency in Australasia with over 19 years experience organising life-changing adventures. To date, the B Corp certified, female-founded company has raised $45 million through more than 715 completed challenges in partnership with 339 leading Australian a…
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James Perrin is a Sustainability & Impact Specialist, B Corp Consultant, Founding Director of the Ingrained Foundation, and Podcast Host. He works with individuals, businesses, and not-for-profits to deepen their impact, and I specialises in developing strategies and implementing projects that are relevant and meaningful for a more beautiful world.…
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Brooke Franklin is an exceptional Leader and Growth Strategist with a passion for building empowered teams. Her accolades include Senior management roles at lululemon, Cotton On, and TOM Organic. In this Sample Brooke gives insight into why and how to attract and retain the best talent with a flexible workplace, while managing performance outcomes …
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Zac Waters has been a touring musician for the last 11 years. In 2019 he started Adult Art Club which blends music and art in immersive exhibitions. Zac opens up about the role of ego in identity and creativity, and the importance of appreciating the small moments. Zac turns the questioning on us about Fluff’s origins, our growth over time, and our…
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Caroline Kell is a proud Aboriginal woman, TEDX Speaker, and founder of Blak Wattle Coaching and Consulting. A former Counsellor with over 7 years’ experience working alongside Victorian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Communities to drive outcomes in truth telling, treaty, health, and mental health reforms at a state government level. She is…
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Odette Barry is a publicist, PR mentor, and founder of Odette & Co. She knows that every business has a story to tell, and she’s here to help empower business owners to tell those stories through the power of PR. She has designed and teaches the Hack Your Own PR program made for business owners, and hosts the Hack Your Own PR podcast, full of tips …
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Tess Guinery is an Artist, Designer, and Author. After initially establishing herself as a sought-after Creative, Tess intuitively pressed pause to take a sabbatical to explore her inner artist, which led to a journey of self-discovery and a new body and being of work. These days, Tess calls the wholesome town of Murwillumbah home with her stuntman…
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Paul Jarvis is a web designer, entrepreneur, educator, and author of Company of One. His past clients include Microsoft, Mercedes-Benz, and Warner Music. His writing and ideas have been published and profiled in magazines and outlets such as WIRED, Vice, Fast Company and USA Today. In his counterculture book Company of One, Paul presents an alterna…
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Ārepa is the world's first brain drink. Backed by neuroscience, this brand is on a mission to boost brain health around the world. Founded by Angus Brown and Zac Robinson in 2017, Ārepa has grown to become Australasia’s most popular brain health drink. Backed by peer reviewed research, the mind-enhancing range of clinically tested brain drinks are …
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Robyn Morrison (Bobby Clark) is an artist, creative director, interior stylist and creative consultant. She speaks openly about her experience growing up in Scotland, how her art has been the truest expression of her identity, how becoming a mother has influenced her perception of self, and the positive and negative impacts of social media in her l…
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Damien Cole is a well-known environmentalist, public speaker, and community leader. He is the National Campaign Director for Surfrider Foundation and led paddle-out protests across Australia in the Fight for The Bight campaign in early 2019 which saw the activation of 56 additional local communities paddling out at their local beaches in opposition…
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In season 3 we’re discussing beauty under the lens of career and community: everything from societal expectations to how your work can be the truest expression of your identity. (For some, not everyone). As a tangent, we discuss the evolving (and debated) definition of self-care and how the beauty industry continues to exploit it; and the responsib…
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Daniel Flynn is the co-founder and managing director of one of Australia’s most successful startups, Thankyou. He started Thankyou at the age of 19, and now 12 years later, Thankyou’s products are stocked by major retailers in Australia, with every product contributing to helping end global poverty. To date, Thankyou has raised over $17 million to …
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Caroline Moreau-Hammond is many things - relevant to this conversation, she is host of The Philosophy of Sex podcast and founder of Becuming, the online sex toy retailer. She has an incredible knowledge across different and often esoteric modalities, histories, and individuals within the sex space, and we discuss the evolving and nuanced world of s…
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Marc is a Creative Director and founder of Happie Holl, a modern wellness brand, centred around promoting better butt care. We discuss his relationship to beauty under the lens of sexuality and identity, and his experiences as a new founder within our industry. Find Marc via @marky_makes_ and @happieholl happieholl.com.au…
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Kayla Houlihan is the founder of Tribe Skincare, a natural, vegan-friendly, Australian-made skincare range, based in Torquay. It was while running her own skin clinic that Kayla noticed a gap in the market for 'skincare for sensitive skin'. While there were some skincare products or lines for sensitive skin, no brand was completely focusing on. Kay…
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Yoko is an author and the founder of organic raw food and living food cafe, Shoku Iku. In this episode we discuss Yoko’s cultural background and influence on beauty and identity, as well as her work in the world of raw and living foods. Find Yoko via @inoue.yoko and @shokuikuA quick note on content - this conversation covers a range of topics inclu…
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Zoe is a Nike yoga teacher and integrative psychotherapist. She is the founder of Loop Wellbeing, which aims to bridge the gap between between the current system and the demand for a new approach to mental health care. We discuss her own journey through therapy and understanding her internal family system, and how it has impacted her perception of …
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Jess & Stef Dadon are the founders of fashionably kinder footwear brand Twoobs. After one too many blisters encountered traveling to global fashion weeks, the sisters discovered a need for beautiful & comfortable shoes, which led them to create Twoobs in a kinder way. Passionate animal lovers and environmentalists, they’ve created shoes, a podcast,…
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Ellen and Erika discuss how the last five months have been, and our theme for season 2: beauty under the lens of sexuality and identity. It's everything mating, monogamy, masculinity, matriarchy, and meaning, as well as talking to the highs and lows of running a business in the ever-evolving sex space. As a tangent, we discuss current influencer pr…
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