Joanna Whaley is a transgender woman who was an evangelical pastor for most of her career. When Joanna was outed by her church and fired for being LGBTQ, she began to advocate for the rights of all people to have access to faith after that moment. This show will be full of storytelling and discussing the experiences of LGBTQ people in faith.
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This podcast exists to help you navigate the culture from a biblical perspective. We tackle the tough and sometimes controversial issues from a Christian perspective. If it’s happening in culture, we are talking about it!
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SPECIAL EPISODE - Christians for Kamala Special Coverage
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Today on the podcast we have special coverage of the "Christians for Kamala" online gathering. We hear from speaks like Host John Fulelsary, Rev Karla, Senator Cory Booker and more. Joanna give input throughout the event as we hear from influential religious and spiritual voices who support Kamala Harris. CHECK OUT CHRISTIANS FOR KAMALA: https://jo…
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{Ep.130} "Breaking Barriers: A Christian Conservative Pastor and a Transgender Pastor (Part 2) | Guest: Joanna Whaley"
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Send us a Text Message. In Part Two of this much-anticipated episode, Kevin continues his conversation with former evangelical megachurch pastor Joanna Whaley, a biological male pastor who is now a transgender woman. In this episode, Kevin and Joanna go head to head on what the Bible says about all things LGBTQ. Want to see what it looks like for t…
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{Ep.132} The Beatitudes: Blessed Are The Poor In Spirit
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, Kevin starts a new series, taking an in-depth look at the Sermon On The Mount. We've heard overviews of this popular talk Jesus gave, but do we really know what Jesus was saying? With the backdrop of a hill in northern Israel that overlooks the Sea of Galilee, Kevin explores one of Jesus' most important serm…
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Kamala Harris & Tim Walz: Bridging the Gap Between LGBTQ People & Christians
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Today on the podcast we discuss the potential of Kamala Harris's vice presidential running mate Tim Walz. we discuss his potential of bridging the gap between LGBTQ+ people and evangelical christians. GET FURTHER SUPPORT: https://www.joannawhaley.com/support JOIN THE PATREON COMMUNITY: https://patreon.com/JoannaWhaley MERCH FROM THE HOST: https://w…
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Trans Olympians and Christian Outrage
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In this week's episode we dive into the complex story of Imane Khelif, an intersex athlete whose journey in the Olympics has sparked a significant conversation about identity and inclusivity. We discuss how Christianity has failed at checking facts and believing in flawed sources. We also discuss the demise of the Heritage Foundation and talk about…
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{Ep.131} The Plot to Kill President Donald Trump and The Future of America
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Send us a Text Message. In this must-listen episode, Kevin shares his thoughts on the recent unprecedented events, including the shocking attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump. He also provides insights on President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, examines the state of the church, and offers valuable advice and encouragem…
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PROJECT 2024 - Do We Really Have to Follow the Homophobic Jesus?
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Join us as we unpack the complexities of navigating faith and identity, challenge the ways Christianity is wielded in political agendas, and discuss the details of Project 2025 and its opposition of embracing an inclusive, compassionate approach to spirituality. Whether you’re a person of faith, a member of the LGBTQ community, or simply curious ab…
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PROJECT 2025 - What Does Project 2025 Actually Say?
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Today on the show we discuss the increasing prospect of Christian nationalism taking over public rule through project 2025. With the news of Joe Biden leaving the presidential race becomes even more important to discuss the details of project 2025 as the political landscape gets more complicated in America. GET FURTHER SUPPORT:https://www.joannawha…
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SPECIAL EPISODE - Processing the Assassination Attempt on Trump as LGBTQ People
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In this episode, we delve into the complex aftermath of the assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. As queer liberals, many of us struggle to reconcile our beliefs with the reality of political violence. How can we navigate this turbulent landscape while remaining true to our values of inclusivity and compassion? GET FURTHER SUPPORT…
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PROJECT 2025 - What is Project 2025, and Why it Matters.
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In this episode, we dive into the chilling intersection of Christian nationalism and Project 2025. We'll explore how this right-wing movement is targeting LGBTQ+ rights and freedoms, and what it means for the future of equality. Join us as we unpack the rhetoric, the policies, and the real-world impact on LGBTQ+ lives. We'll also discuss ways to fi…
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{EP. 129} "Breaking Barriers: A Christian Conservative Pastor and a Transgender Pastor (Part 1) | Guest: Joanna Whaley"
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Send us a Text Message. In this much-anticipated episode, Kevin sits down with former evangelical megachurch pastor Joanna Whaley, a biological male pastor who is now a transgender woman. In this episode, you hear the story of how Joanna was outed by her church and subsequently fired. Parts one and two of this episode are honest, deep, and challeng…
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AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL? - A Conversation with a Transgender Veteran
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Join us for a powerful and candid conversation with a transgender veteran (Fiona Rawls) as we explore the intersection of identity, service, and American pride. Against the backdrop of shifting political landscapes that challenge LGBTQ rights, our guest shares their personal journey of navigating military service and the complexities of patriotism …
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AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL? - American Pride vs. LGBTQ Pride
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Join us as we delve into the complex intersections of faith, politics, and identity in our exploration of Christian nationalism and its profound impact on the LGBTQ community. From legislative battles to personal narratives, we uncover how the fusion of religious doctrine with political power has historically marginalized and harmed LGBTQ individua…
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Join us for a LIVE recording of the show today, where Joanna will be interviewing the inspiring folks behind Faith Mennonite Church, a vibrant LGBTQ+ affirming church in Minneapolis! We discuss the challenges and joys of having an affirming church in places that at times reject queer people. GET FURTHER SUPPORT:https://www.joannawhaley.com/support …
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In this episode, we explore the challenges faced by LGBTQ individuals who are navigating faith while still in the closet. We discuss strategies for maintaining spiritual well-being and personal authenticity, as well as the importance of safe spaces and supportive communities. Join us as we hear personal stories, share practical advice, and discuss …
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Join us as we sit down with Laci, who courageously embraced her true identity later in life. In this inspiring episode, Laci shares her profound journey of navigating faith and spirituality through the lens of her gender transition. We'll explore her challenges, triumphs, and the evolving understanding of LGBTQ+ inclusivity within religious context…
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In this episode, we confront the harmful implications of the 'pray the gay away' narrative within Christian communities. From conversion therapy to the pressure to conform, we examine how these practices can deeply wound individuals grappling with their sexual orientation. Join us as we hear personal stories, explore the psychological effects, and …
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PRIDE 2024 - Asexuality and Spiritual Pressure to Marry
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Exploring the Intersections: Asexuality in the LGBTQ Spectrum and Christianity. Join us as we delve into the often overlooked intersection of asexuality within the LGBTQ community and its complex relationship with Christianity. We'll discuss how asexuality challenges traditional narratives of sexuality and identity, and explore the diverse perspect…
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PRIDE 2024 - Bisexual and Pansexual Faith
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Join us as we explore the intersection of faith and sexual identity in this episode of The Joanna Whaley Podcast. We delve into the experiences of individuals who identify as bisexual or pansexual within the Christian community. Through thoughtful conversations and insights from others, we examine the nuances of reconciling diverse identities, addr…
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In this episode we step into the intersection of polyamory and Christianity, exploring how individuals navigate their faith while embracing non-monogamous relationships. Join us as we hear from guests who share their personal journeys, challenges, and triumphs in reconciling their polyamorous identity with their Christian beliefs. Whether you're cu…
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Join us today as we delve into the deeply personal stories of LGBTQ individuals navigating the complexities of family rejection. From heartfelt journeys to moments of resilience, our guests share their experiences, exploring the emotional landscapes of acceptance, love, and finding chosen families. Discover how these stories challenge societal norm…
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PRIDE 2024 - Interview with Adelynn Campbell
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Today on the show we hear from Joanna's best friend and oldest ally in her journey of holding onto faith and being LGBTQ. You will hear discussions about the struggles of of her journey and the victories she is fighting for to this day. GET FURTHER SUPPORT FROM THE HOST: https://www.joannawhaley.com/support JOIN THE PATREON COMMUNITY: https://patre…
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{Ep.128} The Top 10 Frequently Asked LGBTQ+ Questions and Biblical Answers
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, Kevin answers ten of the most frequently asked questions surrounding the LGBTQ+ community. If homosexuality is a sin, why didn’t Jesus address it? Why would God allow someone to have homosexual desires if it’s wrong? Is it possible to be a gay Christian? Is homosexuality only forbidden in the Old Testament? …
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PRIDE 2024 - Is It OK for Your Faith to Change?
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In a world of constant change, where our understanding of the divine and our place in the universe is ever-evolving, process theology offers a fresh perspective. It invites us to see God not as a static, unchanging entity, but as dynamically intertwined with the unfolding of creation itself. This theological framework challenges us to think beyond …
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PRIDE 2024 - To Be or Not to Be Celibate.
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Today on the show we discuss the counsel that the LGBTQ people get from religion. That counsel is to remain celibate so we can remain holy. This has been a damaging theological idea for the queer community. Join us to talk through this difficult concept. GET FURTHER SUPPORT FROM THE HOST: https://www.joannawhaley.com/support JOIN THE PATREON COMMUN…
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This week as part of our Pride 2024 Series, we talk about the religious misconceptions people have about trans people being dads. Joanna is a transgender woman and is also a Dad, and we discuss the tensions and wrong assumptions of trans people from the religious community. At the end of the episode we take live Q&A. GET FURTHER SUPPORT FROM THE HO…
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Today on the show Joanna interviews Iggi Courter. Iggi is a gay man who also is a music minister in local ELCA churches. In this interview we discuss the intersections of being a Gay man in ministry, and how he navigates his sexual orientation with religion. At the end of the show we take text and call in questions live. GET FURTHER SUPPORT FROM TH…
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Today on the show we discuss the long and dark history of Lesbian and Gay liberation and religious oppression. We hear a story about when Joanna made a huge mistake as a young pastor, and how the person she hurt forgave her. At the end of the show Joanna takes questions from live and text listeners. GET FURTHER SUPPORT FROM THE HOST: https://www.jo…
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PRIDE 2024 - Interview with Rachel Geddes
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Today on the show we interview a pastor who is a member of the LGBTQ+ community. Rachel Geddes is a pastor in the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America and is a out lesbian who discusses the tensions and learnings of being an LGBTQ+ clergy member. GET FURTHER SUPPORT FROM THE HOST: https://www.joannawhaley.com/support JOIN THE PATREON COMMUNITY: h…
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{Ep.127} LGBTQ+, Identity, and The Bible
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Send us a Text Message. Today, we start a short new series discussing all things LGBTQ+. Kevin thoughtfully breaks down what the scripture says about homosexuality and Identity. His passion and care for this topic are evident as he speaks to Christians and non-Christians who are a part of the LGBTQ+ community. Do you have a topic suggestion, a ques…
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PRIDE 2024 - I Will Never Be Straight (Out of My Head Release)
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Happy Pride Month!!! This Week we kick off Pride 2024 with the release of Joanna's new song "Out of My Head". We discuss how high control religion tries to keep us in the closet threatening that our "greatness" is contingent on our "straightness". Join us to kick off Pride Month 2024 with a new song and in depth conversation about Pride and living …
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OUT OF MY HEAD - Conversion Therapy Kills
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This week on the podcast we discuss some of the history and risks of Conversian Therapy. Joanna Whaley has experienced Conversian Therapy three times. She was an evangelical pastor for nearly 20 years before coming out as a transgender woman. Today's episode discusses some of the difficult realities in the history of Conversian Therapy and in the p…
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{Replay} How Much Power Does The Devil Actually Have?
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Send us a Text Message. In this week's replay episode, we delve deep into the Bible to answer your questions about the Devil's power. Does the devil know my thoughts? Can the devil be everywhere at once like God? How do I know when the devil is working in my life? All this and so much more in this very insightful episode! Do you have a topic sugges…
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Today on the show we explore retelling the conversation of the holy spirit from a queer feminist perspective. Could this religious concept be framed differently to help us reconnect to it? GET FURTHER SUPPORT FROM THE HOST: https://www.joannawhaley.com/support JOIN THE PATREON COMMUNITY: https://patreon.com/JoannaWhaley MERCH FROM THE HOST: https:/…
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This week on the show we begin with a conversation of a mother of a non-binary child. Beverly St. Amour is Joanna's chosen sister and has been parenting a non-binary child after being raised in fundamental evangelical Christianity. Today on the show we explore what it looks like to retell the Christian narrative of Jesus from a feminine viewpoint. …
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{Ep.126} Spiritual Fitness: The Signs and Symptoms of Spiritual Drifting
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Send us a Text Message. Join Kevin Wilson in a profound exploration of spiritual preparedness and responsiveness to God's will. Unveil the subtle signs of spiritual drift and discover biblical remedies. From hearing the voice of God to fostering love and self-discipline, this episode illuminates the path to spiritual vitality. Kevin's insights on p…
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In today's podcast we delve into the sacred realms of spirituality and theology through a unique lens. I'm your host, Joanna Whaley , and in todays episode, we will explore the profound concept of God as a nurturing and encompassing Mother, particularly from a queer theological standpoint. In a world where traditional depictions of the divine often…
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This is the final week of my masters project for Wartburg Theological Seminary. Today on the podcast I will be recapping the series and talking about what I will do about all of this research. We are also joined by Dr. Z PHD who has an amazing youtube channel for transgender people. Get out your red pen and grade my project. JOIN THE PATREON COMMUN…
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{Ep.125} A Scientist's Journey From Atheism To Christianity | Guest: Dr. Sy Garte
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Send us a Text Message. Join us in this thought-provoking episode as we delve into the captivating journey of Dr. Sy Garte, renowned biochemist and author, from atheism to faith. In this episode, we explore Dr. Garte's childhood and upbringing. We discover what it was like growing up in a Marxist communist household and how this environment shaped …
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HEALING AFTER - Clinical and Spiritual Care Together
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Today on the show we we discuss the tensions between mental health care and spirituality. In todays modern world we see religion over-spiritualize clinical mental health issues. Today we will discuss how spiritual care providers can be integrated into the clinical setting to offer long-term care for those who need it. JOIN THE PATREON COMMUNITY: ht…
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Today on the show we continue a series from my Masters project to explore the need for spiritual care for LGBTQ people outside of churches. Many queer people have been traumatized by churches and pastors. Today we dive into some data about what LGBTQ people say this topic. JOIN THE PATREON COMMUNITY: https://patreon.com/JoannaWhaley MERCH FROM THE …
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{Ep.124} "Living Single: Practical Ways to Honor God While Waiting" Guest: Rebekah Anne Perkins
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode of the Thinking Out Loud podcast, host Kevin Wilson interviews speaker, counselor, life coach, and podcaster Rebekah Anne Perkins about her journey to marriage at the age of 39. They discuss the struggles and challenges of being single, the societal pressures and expectations, and the misconceptions of purity…
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HEALING AFTER - The Church and a Dark History
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Today on the the Podcast we begin a special series. If you listen to the podcast for any time you will learn that I am a seminary student and today kicks off a four week podcast series that is part of my masters project. So get out your red pen and play professor and judge me harshly. Today on the podcast we are talking about the long dark history …
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QUEEREASTER - God in the Unexpected Place
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Happy Easter Friends! On todays episode we will explore Easter from a queer viewpoint. How does the powerful tradition of heteronormative Christianity square with the LGBTQ experience. On todays episode we will explore it together. JOIN JOANN'S PATREON (Get support): https://patreon.com/JoannaWhaley MERCH FROM THE HOST: https://www.joannawhaley.com…
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{Ep.123} 8 Struggles Christians Face And The Truth That Sets You Free
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, Kevin discusses eight areas that he's seen Christians struggle with over his last 20 years of ministry. If you've ever thought or struggled with any of the thoughts below, this episode is for you. It is packed full of encouragement and reassurance from God's word. I don't feel like I'm saved. I've sinned too…
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REIMAGINING LENT - Take Up Your Own Damn Cross
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Today on the show we will talk about an often weaponized scripture against the LGBTQ community. Many times queer people are told to take up their own cross and stay in the closet. We are told that when we come out that we gave into evil and are trying to preserve our lives. However today we are going to look at a completely queer perspective of thi…
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REIMAGINING LENT - Riding in on an Ass, and Looking Like One
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Today on the podcast we are exploring the story of Jesus riding into town on a donkey. How can this story parallel the queer Christian experience? Many people in Christianity before they came out were told they had enormous potential in the kingdom of God just to let everyone down when they came out. Today we see the parallels of this story and the…
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{Ep.122} A Muslim's Conversion From Allah To Jesus With Dr. Faisal Malick
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Send us a Text Message. “Discover an inspiring journey of faith as we delve into the gripping testimony of Dr. Faisal Malick, a former Muslim who embraced Christianity. Join us as he shares his emotional and powerful encounter with Jesus, unveiling supernatural occurrences that transformed his life. Gain profound insights into Islam, Muslim culture…
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REIMAGINING LENT - Should Church be a Business?
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Today we discuss the tensions of church being a business, when Jesus turned over tables in the temple. Join me for a talk about how to navigate this tension in a world where costs are rising and our churches ask for more. Also we have a a snip from one our favorite shows "Queer Theology Podcast". SUPPORT THE SHOW: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2291916…
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REIMAGINING LENT - Theology of Dune Part 2
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This week on the podcast we talk about reimagining lent. This can be a time in life when people change habits and give things up. However, what do we do with this time of the year ad post-evangelicals. How does a new movie that just came out teach us how the queer community has been oppressed by religion? Join me for this weeks episode. SUPPORT THE…
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