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Kindreds

Katey Zeh and Ashley Peterson

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A podcast for soul sisters, where we talk all things faith, feminism, and friendship from our homes in the South. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Cindy Wang Brandt helps parents heal from religious trauma, break toxic cycles, and raise children with healthy spirituality and conscious citizenship. She is an author, speakers, conference host committed to helping parents raise kids for a better world. The Parenting Forward podcast features interviews with thought leaders from progressive faith and non-faith spaces, resources to create better practices in parenting and life with children. We believe parenting is revolutionary, that if we ...
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What does being Christian even mean anyway? Who gets to decide what a Christian is? That's what we discuss in this episode and how we've evolved in our understanding of how the label "Christian" feels to us. We talk about evangelicalism, Jesus, deconstruction, Christian nationalism, and how we understand our ever-changing spirituality these days. I…
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What do the Bachelor, Love is Blind, the Ultimatum, and all of the other competition dating reality TV shows have in common? Really problematic narratives about marriage! We break down some of our most "precious illusions" (thanks, Alanis Morissette) about finding "the one," tying the knot, and having a "successful" marriage. We discuss the conveyo…
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We take a break from our Tackling the Taboo series to celebrate the beginning of summer by talking about what we’re enjoying these days. We talk about some of the books, movies, creative projects, and practices that we are loving right now.Full shownotes: https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/06/05/episode-74-what-were-enjoying-these-days/ Hosted on Aca…
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Being a parent of an only child comes with all kinds of baggage and inappropriate comments and questions. We discuss the ways that only children are stigmatized and dispel some of the cultural myths surrounding this family structure. Shownotes: https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/05/08/episode-73-tackling-taboo-one-and-done/ Hosted on Acast. See acast…
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CW: we discuss alcohol and drinking on this episode. How has our relationship with alcohol changed over the course of our lives? And are "wine moms" really a thing or are we just failing parents of young children?Shownotes https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/02/27/episode-72-tackling-taboo-are-we-wine-moms/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for m…
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Welcome to our seventh year of recording Kindreds! This year we are tackling some taboo topics that until now we were a little too fearful to talk about on the show at the length. This episode we start a conversation about sex and sexuality with a focus on what we learned at church, school, and in the culture as young people and how we're unlearnin…
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We wrap up 2022 with some life updates from the fall, some of our favorite things from the year, and how we are making the end of this year. And of course, we included our annual Spotify playlist.Link to playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aPDl74PcN9dAKSVblUCFr?si=0a9aba471abd446bShownotes: https://kindredspodcast.com/2022/12/19/episode-70…
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We explore the age-old question of what happens when we die. We return to our evangelical roots and discuss theologies of salvation, atonement, and baptism—and how those things are portrayed in church culture (hell house, anyone?). Is Hell even a biblical concept at all? Then we move into talking about where we land these days. In short, we have a …
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What does it mean to heal from grief? Is it something we do alone, or is healing a communal effort? What does support look like for grieving people, and where do we go for that support? How do we support people we love who are grieving? These are some of the things we talk about in this second conversation about grief.Some of the areas we discuss a…
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For a long time we’ve been saying that we need to record an episode about this heavy topic, but we’ve just been too mired in it ourselves to talk about it publicly. We’re finally ready, and we have so much to say that we’re making it a two-parter.In this episode we talk about what exactly grief is, what some of the different types are, and how no m…
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Join Amanda, Becky, and Nicole this week for the July (or maybe August?) Twisterds Movie Club discussion about the 2022 Michelle Yeoh movie, Everything Everywhere All at Once. After a tangent about types of wine, the conversation turned to the significance of the use of Mandarin and Cantonese, love for Stephanie Hsu and Jamie Lee Curtis (and Ke Huy…
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Join Amanda, Becky, and Nicole this week after nearly two months for a discussion about Irish whiskey, the dos and don'ts of septum piercing care, why drivers ed is cool, and Twisted Sisterds sex ed. You can hear past guests answer our 10 nerdy and ridiculous questions by becoming a $5 patron at patreon.com/twistedsisterds. If you have questions or…
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We talk about our reactions to the post-Roe reality that we are making our way through, how we are navigating our own grief journeys this year, and what we are turning to for comfort in these hard days. Ashley shares about the compounded grief her family is experiencing, and Katey shares about coming out about being queer. Resources We Mention:-Abo…
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I'm taking a break from podcasting so I can focus on myself, family, and working on my next book. Thank you for your support through the years, and goodbye for now! Links (affiliates included): Parenting After Religious Trauma Membership – https://cindy-brandt.mykajabi.com/partmembership Parenting Forward, the Book – https://amzn.to/3g0LJPn You Are…
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Summer is a busy season when you’re in the church. There are lots of family activities going on, childcare to work out, and, of course, VBS. Because we’re nearing VBS season, I thought it’d be a good time to talk about whether or not you should send your kids to VBS. Even more so, I want to discuss the bigger question of how we can protect our kids…
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If you’ve got a child nearing college or already there, this episode is for you. We’re going to take a critical look at evangelical colleges and universities and analyze the experience they provide our kids. Having attended the evangelical college Wheaton, I have firsthand experience to bring to the table that we’ll discuss throughout today’s show.…
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Ever been triggered by your child’s behavior? It can feel uncontrollable. No matter how hard we try to hold ourselves back when our child behaves a certain way, it immediately puts us into triggered mode. Jen Lumanlan addressed this in her talk at my recent Parenting is Revolutionary conference. Jen holds an MS in Psychology (Child Development) and…
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Join Amanda and Becky this week as they talk about a cocktail with no name, Andrew Garfield, and taking a podcast break because Becky is taking on two big projects at once. Then Becky talks with Asha Dahya about how Evengelicalism is conservative in the US (and not so much in Australia), how California's Prop 8 and Hobby Lobby got her thinking abou…
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For this month's installment of the Twisterds Movie Club, Amanda and Becky talk about the 2016 George Takei and Lea Salonga musical, Allegiance. You can watch this story inspired by George Takei's family's experiences during the Japanese American internment in the 1940s through a free trial of Broadway HD on Amazon Prime or a rental on broadwayonde…
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The Parenting is Revolutionary Conference is over! It was an incredible time connecting with other parents and parenting influencers in the online space. I myself learned so much and, though I’m exhausted, I feel so fulfilled by the experience. Throughout many of the sessions of the conference, childhood trauma was discussed. A question popped up o…
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With the news this last week in the US, it felt appropriate to repost this episode. For more commentary on the impact of the impending loss of abortion rights in the US, we recommend the "Overturning Roe Might Backfire on Christians" episode of The Friendly Atheist podcast and We'll Hear Arguments and Boom! Lawyered for legal history and commentary…
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Join Amanda and Becky this week as they talk about a ridiculous urgent notice, the importance of labor unions, and queer people to the rescue all while discussing two "Am I the Asshole" posts. It's our monthly phoned in episode. You can hear past guests answer our 10 nerdy and ridiculous questions by becoming a $5 patron at patreon.com/twistedsiste…
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Join Amanda and Becky this week as they talk about the USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map and then with Rob Swinton about Ghost Zombie Jesus Day, what being bisexual does and doesn't mean for your committed relationship, and how leading with their queerness brought them to where they are today...and to this podcast episode. Check out Rob's podcast Bi No…
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One of my favorite people, Hillary McBride, recently posted this on Twitter: “Spiritual trauma is someone handing you an inner critic and telling you it’s the voice of God.” I love that quote because it paints the picture of religious trauma so well. Trauma doesn’t always have to involve one disastrous event; it can be the result of the script we w…
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Join Amanda and Becky this week as they talk with Lavender about misconceptions about autism, how Anne in Anne with an E is incredibly autistic, and why Autism Acceptance Month is better than Autism Awareness Month. Check out Lavender's Facebook post from the beginning of Autism Acceptance Month. Becky's Fangirling:None to Run programAmy Down's sto…
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Katey and Ashley share life updates, some big lows and some inspiring highs, and they share some of their inspiring, fun reads on their currently-reading lists: The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo, Come As You Are, The Once and Future Witches, and The Firekeeper's Daughter. Be sure to check out www.abortionswelcome.org and pick up a copy of Katey's b…
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For this month's installment of the Twisterds Movie Club, Amanda and Becky talk about the 2022 Disney/Pixar coming of age movie, Turning Red. By becoming a $5 patron at patreon.com/twistedsisterds you can listen to bonus Twisterds Movie Club episodes and prior guests answering our 10 nerdy and ridiculous questions. If you have questions or want to …
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Join Amanda and Becky this week as they talk with Melissa Murray about her winding path from being on a chastity abstinence drama team to finding her place in teaching and then navigating teaching during a pandemic. Mentioned in this episode:Lentil beer from Rebellion Brewery in Regina, SaskatchewanGod Spare the Girls by Kelsey McKinney You can hea…
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Parenting is revolutionary because it not only changes your perspective as a parent but it also impacts your perspective of your kids. Parenting is not just for parents but for anyone who wants to see a better world, not only for the children but for all of us that co-exist. Parenting is revolutionary because it changes us. It evolves us and it dem…
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Join Amanda and Becky this week as they talk about shifting social energy, adventures in fermenting, finding yourself in Star Trek Discovery, and a boomer who needs to f*** off. It's a discussion of a recent high point and a low point in feminism. You can hear past guests answer our 10 nerdy and ridiculous questions by becoming a $5 patron at patre…
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Join Nicole and Becky this week as they talk about how NPR is disappointing (we'll miss you, Sam!) and the awesomeness of Thunder Force. Then, join Becky as she talks with Tanner Conklin about the politics of the liquor business in Oklahoma, how a hair stylist who specialized in mullets started her own liquor brand, and how the lady preying mantis …
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Since the pandemic, the world of Christian faith deconstruction exploded into this wonderful kaleidoscope of podcasters and influencers, including the Dirty Rotten Church Kids, Adrian and Josh, who both left their faith but continued to forge and nurture a solid friendship beyond the walls of the church. Once you leave the church that has become a …
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International Women's Day was this week, so due to that and other life issues, we took a break from recording. Please enjoy this encore episode with Dr. Hillary McBride about her book Mothers, Daughters & Body Image: Learning to Love Ourselves as We Are. Join the Sisterds, with guest host Sam Moore, in a discussion about taking up space and loving …
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Welcome to the March installment of the Twisterds Movie Club.After opening discussion about library conferences via Zoom, where in the library where Nicole works are COVID tests being done (spoiler: they're not), a blonde siamese cat, and the lesbian witches who live down the alley, Nicole and Becky discussed the 1987 movie Dirty Dancing. There wer…
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The stigma of having an abortion is still rampant, especially among highly conservative people of faith. This led to Katey Zeh’s passion for navigating how to bridge these two worlds. It is important to provide care and compassion to those who decide to go through abortion because, at its core, abortion is still part of the human experience. Statis…
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Join Nicole and Becky this week as they talk about their Exmo overlaps, speaking German with a heavy French accent, and tick, tick...BOOM! And then stay around for a compilation of some of our favorite answers to our Question Time bonus episode questions. 1) Gizele Monáe - Episode 106 2) Ally Henny - Episode 121 3) Mandisa Thomas - Episode 142 4) S…
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Join Nicole and Becky this week as they talk about Gene Demby vs Sam Sanders, decolonizing your diet, and #blackcosplay while sharing some of the Black creators they are watching and listening to right now. Mentioned in this episode:PodcastsBOOM LawyeredIt's Been a MinuteCode SwitchThe Nod YouTubeCydnee BlackMargaret AngelKabir ConsidersSincerely, …
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Ashley sits down with Katey to discuss her new book A Complicated Choice: Making Space for Grief and Healing in the Pro-Choice Movement. We talk about how this wasn't the book Katey intended to write, how the process of writing it taught her a lot about burnout, and how we can all learn to be more compassionate in the ways that we talk about aborti…
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Growing up in a religious and Asian household, I had very little sex education, if any, and it was mainly about purity culture. And it has only been in the past two years that I've actually delved into demolishing such sex-negativity. Last month, I ran a webinar on sex-positive parenting with Melissa Pintor Carnagey and I got to check off some of t…
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Join Nicole and Becky this week as they talk with Rev. Katey Zeh about being kicked out of every part of the Baptist Church, accompanying people before, during, and after the experience of abortion, and how being called out is a gift. Get her thought provoking and accessible book, A Complicated Choice: Making Space for Grief and Healing in the Pro-…
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Welcome to the February installment of the Twisterds Movie Club. This month, Nicole, Becky, and founding cohost Amanda HAD to talk about Encanto. Watch the movie (maybe even multiple times) and then join us for this long episode with discussions of food allergies, "Disney Green", the validity of all forms of femininity presentation, and how white w…
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For years now, I have been on a journey of healing from religious trauma. My inspiration through it all has been to become a better person for both myself and all of the people around me, including my children. Because of this pursuit, I’ve always been on the lookout for people who help others resolve their childhood and religious trauma (which I’v…
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What would it look like to meet the full human needs of people who experience abortion? That's what this episode is all about. Ashley and Katey talk about their year-long joint effort to create Abortions Welcome, a virtual space dedicated to providing spiritual support and accurate information to anyone who is preparing for, experiencing, or proces…
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As many of you know, I've been investing a lot recently in my new community. It’s called Parenting After Religious Trauma and, in it, we explore the impact of childhood trauma and specifically religious trauma. We discuss the impact that it has on the rest of our adult lives and parenting. This all comes back to one of my core beliefs, the thesis o…
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Many of us begin our parenting journey not really knowing what we’re doing. We tell ourselves we’ll be fine just winging it and then quickly realize we will not be fine at all. This is especially true when it comes to discipline. We know a one-size-fits-all approach to discipline won’t work but aren’t sure how to give our kids the freedom to be exa…
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*Quick Note: We are taking the month of January off, so this will be our last episode until February.* Welcome to the third episode of what we're calling Twisterds Advent. In this episode, Nicole, Becky, and their friend Reuben Hood talk about fishbowl drinks, a mumble rapper, Tommy Chong, and Pitch Perfect on their many tangents while discussing t…
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Welcome to the second episode of what we're calling Twisterds Advent. This week Nicole and Becky, along with their friend Jenn Flynn-McCormick about being emo 12 year olds, the good and bad (mostly bad) of human nature, and why Michael Caine made The Muppet Christmas Carol the best adaptation of Charles Dickens' 1843 novella. Another adaptation wor…
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Today we are talking about raising irresponsible kids. This sounds completely counterintuitive, of course. We generally feel pressure to raise kids who are responsible. However, I believe that there is a lot of nuance around this trait. What are we responsible for? To whom are we responsible? Are there things we shouldn’t be responsible for? These …
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