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Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Zapier’s CMO), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.
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The GrowthTLDR podcast is a weekly interview series with both leaders and practitioners who have real knowledge to share on what it takes to grow a business. Unlike most podcasts, we don't just focus on tips and tricks. We get to know the real story behind their success. And we try to have fun while doing it. Sick and tired of the same old boring business chat? Then listen to an episode of the GrowthTLDR, you won't regret it. If you're interested in being on the show, e-mail kieran@growthtld ...
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The Interiors Podcast

Tanya Neufeld Flanagan

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An interior design show aimed to help you elevate your space in conversations with industry professionals in Ireland. Hosted by Tanya Neufeld Flanagan, expat and marketing exec turned interior designer based in Dublin, Ireland where she works at Eilish Rickard Interiors.
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Ep. 256 "How do you build a $1 billion creator business from scratch?" Kipp, Kieran, and Morning Brew’s co-founder Alex Lieberman dive into the playbook for building massive creator-led ventures in today's digital landscape. Learn more on leveraging the immense power of trusted distribution networks, overcoming the inefficiencies in influencer mark…
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Ep. 255 Why is customer service the number one brand technique you need to master? Kipp and Kieran dive into the groundbreaking ways AI tools are transforming brand awareness and customer perception. Learn more on how HubSpot’s new AI search grader reveals what the Internet really says about your brand, the shift from traditional search engines to …
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Ep. 254 What if you could automate the most mundane parts of your sales job and get promoted for it? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Ethan Dewaal, and dive into how AI is revolutionizing sales practices and boosting productivity. You will learn more on automating product questions with AI chatbots, developing a four-part roadmap for advanced AI use, …
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Ep. 253 Can old IP give shut-down businesses a new lease on life? Kipp and Kieran explore how reviving dormant brands might just be the next big trend in marketing. They are joined by Morning Brew’s co-founder Alex Lieberman to delve into the concept of leveraging old intellectual property to reignite business success. This episode will have you le…
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Ep. 252 AI images are now so realistic that even AI experts can't tell what's real anymore. Kipp and Kieran dive into the dramatic advancements in AI image generation with the release of Flux. Learn more on how Flux works, whether you can still spot fake images, and the top marketing use cases for AI-generated images in advertising, email campaigns…
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Ep. 251 Are Google ads overrated? Kipp and guest, Omer Shai, CMO of Wix, examine the evolving landscape of search and the secret sauce behind Wix's success. Kipp and Omer dive into marketing lessons from one of the industry's most resilient companies. Learn more on the future of search and its fragmentation, the untapped potential of influencer mar…
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Ep. 250 Can you survive the AI wave in content creation? Kipp and Kieran dive into the strategies and skills you need to thrive in the age of AI-driven marketing. Learn more on navigating the transition from traditional content playbooks to personality-led growth, the impact of AI on search-driven traffic, and tips for hiring and leveraging in-hous…
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Ep. 249 "Is putting all your eggs in the ROAS basket stunting your growth?" Kipp and Kieran dive into why relying solely on Return on Ad Spend might not be the smartest move for marketers aiming for long-term success. Every marketer needs to understand the significance of building their own audience, the true impact of paid advertising, and navigat…
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Ep. 248 What are the 3 marketing ideas that took Chess.com to $150M? Kieran Flanagan dives into the strategic steps Erik Allebest and his team took to dominate the online chess world and build a thriving community-led business. Learn more about the early recognition and promotion of chess streaming, winning over both casual and professional players…
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Ep. 247 Is the current agency landscape broken and misaligned with client interests? Kipp, Kieran, and Gary Vaynerchuk (VaynerX) dive into the misaligned incentives of agencies and how they hinder marketing success. This is a revisit of their episode with Gary in May. Learn more on why traditional agency models fail, the importance of relevance at …
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Ep. 246 Are you telling stories that truly resonate with your customers or just following the status quo? Kipp and Kieran dive into the crucial role of narrative in marketing and how founders can be their company’s best marketer. Learn more about the importance of deeply understanding your customer, hiring the right marketing leaders at different s…
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Ep. 245 Why should you be a Claude super fan? Kipp and Kieran dive into the game-changing world of Claude apps and how anyone can build web apps in no time. Learn more on how Claude's new features empower you to create and publish lightweight apps effortlessly, real-life examples of innovative use cases, and the mind-blowing potential for profitabi…
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Ep. 244 "Is AI really the future of marketing?" Kipp, Kieran, and guest Andrew Chen (Andreessen Horowitz) dive into the transformative impact of AI on marketing channels, consumer engagement, and startup strategies. Learn more on how AI is changing search results and video production, the rise of niche app businesses, and marketing tricks for the A…
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Ep. 243 Ever wondered how AI can amplify your creativity? Kipp and Kieran dive into the power of AI for content creation and how to craft viral LinkedIn and X posts using Claude 3.5 Sonnet. Learn more about creating style guides for different platforms, understanding the impact of well-prepared training documents on content output, and distinguishi…
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Ep. 242 Can AI assistants really turn raw data into insightful dashboards in under a minute? Kipp and Kieran dive into how tools like Claude are revolutionizing content and data visualization in business. Learn more on why interactive content such as apps and dashboards are catching investor attention, how AI-powered tools are shifting the focus fr…
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Ep. 241 How important is video for your website? Kipp and Chris Savage (CEO and co-founder of Wistia) dive into the transformative dynamics of video marketing in 2024 and how to master every aspect of it. Learn more on leveraging AI-generated personalization and automation, maximizing engagement on platforms like LinkedIn and Twitter, and the essen…
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Ep. 240 Is distribution the undefeated catalyst in marketing? Kipp and Kieran dive into some of the best episodes they’ve recorded on Marketing Against the Grain. Learn more on the critical importance of micro consumer segmentations, the value of combining brand and growth strategies, and the often misunderstood role of product marketing. In this e…
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Ep. 239 Are you ready to 10x your views on LinkedIn using AI? Kieran and Kipp dive into the GPT-4o prompts that can transform your social media game. Learn more on understanding the role of hallucination in AI as a feature, leveraging verifiers and active inference for accurate results, and effective methods to teach AI what "good" content really m…
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Ep. 238 Are you tired of spending your advertising budget on the same stale channels? Kipp and Kieran dive into the untapped marketing channels that pro marketers are leveraging to gain a competitive edge. Learn more on the potential of working with creators, the overlooked benefits of YouTube ads, and the power of point-of-need advertising to reac…
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Ep. 237 How do we create the new marketing playbook of the AI era? Kipp and Kieran dive into the evolving landscape of marketing and how AI is setting the stage for the next big shift. Learn more on how to leverage AI integrations with HubSpot and other tools to stay competitive, understand the balance between new approaches and tried-and-true stra…
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Ep. 236 "Is marketing facing a crisis of faith today?" Kipp and Kieran dive into the shifting landscape of modern marketing and how to navigate it successfully in 2024. Learn more about achieving tangible outcomes with limited budgets, managing CEO expectations to gain trust and support, and balancing quantitative and qualitative metrics to prove y…
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Ep. 235 Is instant success holding you back from true mastery? Kipp, Kieran, and guest, Wes Kao (co-founder of Maven and altMBA), dive into the lessons learned from Seth Godin about embracing the craft, overcoming fear of failure, and achieving true success through strategic thinking. Learn more on why perfecting your skills requires deliberate eff…
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Ep.234 Is Apple's AI revolution set to change the way you interact with technology and market your business? Kipp and Kieran dive into Apple’s groundbreaking AI integrations announced at WWDC and their monumental impact on the future of marketing. Learn more about how Apple is training consumers to use AI without realizing it, the strategic partner…
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Ep. 233 What happens if AI reduces human cost to zero? Kipp and Kieran dive into the groundbreaking implications of AI on sales training, marketing efficiency, and customer support roles. Learn more about how AI can revolutionize sales training by mimicking customer interactions and providing personalized guidance for sales reps, the integration of…
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Ep. 232 What do the recent Google leaks mean? Kipp and Kieran dive into the future of marketing automation and how Google's secret algorithm changes the game. In this episode, Kipp and Kieran sit down with Rand Fishkin, the former CEO of Moz and founder of SparkToro, to uncover the hidden facets of Google's ranking system, the influence of AI on ma…
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Ep. 231 What does it take to get 11 million views in just 4 days? It’s the ultimate masterclass with 19-year-old sensation Jenny Hoyos, who cracked the code with YouTube Shorts. Kipp and Kieran dive into Jenny’s strategic approach to creating viral content and building a massive following. Learn more about the art of video progression to keep your …
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Ep. 230 Is Google's AI making search better or humorously worse? Kieran dives into the intrigue and drama behind Google's newest feature, AI Overviews, and its risky launch. Learn more on Google's "look dumb or get disrupted" moment, the laughable but concerning inaccuracies generated by AI, and the critical impact on organic traffic and the open w…
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Ep. 229 How will AI agents revolutionize marketing strategies in 2024? Kipp and Kieran dive into the transformative impact of AI agents on search, content creation, and user experience. Learn more about the potential use cases for AI agents in marketing, optimizing search strategies in the age of AI, and preparing for the AI-driven future. Mentions…
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Ep. 228 How can authenticity transform your marketing game? Kipp and guest Charles Duhigg (“Supercommunicators”) dive into the mental points every marketer needs to control their message.. Learn more on how authenticity shapes marketing narratives, the crucial process of selecting the right ideas to focus on, and the evolving rules of communication…
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Ep. 227 What are the best marketing channels you should use to grow your business? Kipp and Kieran dive into the dynamic fusion of AI technology with traditional marketing strategies to exponentially grow your business. Learn more on how AI conversion rate optimization leads the charge in changing conversion strategies, why blending product marketi…
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Ep. 226 Gary Vaynerchuk is challenging the traditional mindset of business and marketing. Kipp, Kieran and guest Gary Vaynerchuk (VaynerX) dive into the importance of organic social media. Learn more about Gary’s revolutionary insights on why staying ahead of market dynamics is crucial in the ever-changing landscape of business and marketing, why t…
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Ep. 225 How will AI redefine the future of business interactions and learning? In today's episode, Kipp boldly predicts that OpenAI's GPT-4o could usher in a new frontier in real-time communication and marketing. Kipp and Kieran dive into the groundbreaking features of OpenAI's latest release. Learn more on how the omnimodal capabilities of GPT-4o …
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Ep. 224 Did you know AI could potentially increase email conversion rates by 94%? Kipp and Kieran dive into the AI implications of sales prospecting. Learn more about how effective personalization can leverage online data, the role of AI in improving prospecting emails, and the future of AI in voice prospecting and creating engaging, celebrity-driv…
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Ep. 223 How can you be in the 5% of in demand marketers in the future? Kieran dives into the marketing playbook for the AI era. Learn more on crafting multimodal content strategies, personalizing marketing at scale, and collapsing the customer journey into effective marketing techniques. Mentions Sam Altman https://blog.samaltman.com/ Eleven Labs h…
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Ep. 222 Why should you build for the AI of the future, NOT for the AI of today? Kipp and Kieran dive into the potential ChatGPT-5 model and how it can revolutionize brand marketing strategies. Learn more on integrating AI for extracting and analyzing data, enhancing brand awareness and net promoter scores, and the significance of building your mark…
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Ep. 221 How can AI revolutionize the way we create and consume content? Kipp and Dan Shipper (CEO of Every) dive into how AI tools like ChatGPT have become indispensable in content creation. Learn more about harnessing AI for newsletter growth, integrating AI to enhance creativity without stifling it, and utilizing advanced AI models to tackle comp…
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Ep. 220 Will Ai automate 95% of a marketer's role? A solo Kieran dives into why he created an Ai email course and why it’s so important to have a passion for marketing. Learn more about creating Ai-driven content, utilizing persuasion techniques to elevate campaigns, and testing the effectiveness of Ai in real marketing projects using Kieran’s cour…
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Ep. 219 Is Google really at risk of becoming obsolete in the age of AI-driven search? Ethan Smith’s answer may surprise you. Kipp, Kieran and Ethan Smith (Graphite) dive into the Ai revolution and its impact on search marketing and SEO practices. Learn more about the adaptability of Google's Adwords model in the Ai era, and the tactics for dominati…
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Ep 218 Is your website an outdated relic or your best salesperson? Kipp and Kieran dive into the future role of websites in an AI-driven marketing world. Learn more on if the traditional website still holds its value, the blending of AI into customer service, and the essential strategies for keeping your site relevant in a rapidly changing digital …
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Ep. 217 Are marketing budgets going to go up? Is product marketing a waste of time? Kipp and Kieran with guest Jason Lemkin (CEO of SaaStr) dive into brand marketing. Learn more on leveraging AI and product-led growth for market dominance, the critical impact of early results in a sales cycle for gauging success, and the nuanced art of aligning mar…
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Ep. 216 Is Google search traffic in decline? Kipp and Kieran dive into the possible replacements for Google search and what you can do if you rely on Google. Learn more on navigating post-SEO marketing strategies, leveraging B2B creators, and adapting to the AI revolution that's rewriting the rules of digital traffic and content creation. Mentions …
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Ep. 215 What are the hottest and most important Ai apps to use in your marketing today? Kipp and guest Matt Wolfe (entrepreneur and YouTuber) dive into the intricate world of AI marketing tools, exploring what it means to effectively integrate AI into your toolkit. Learn more about how Hume can decipher the subtleties of human emotion, the creative…
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Ep. 214 If you think lead gen is dead, then your business is probably dead. Kipp and Kieran dive into the burning questions the community cares about. Learn more on leveraging Ai for productivity boosts in content creation, the nuances of scaling a personality-driven business, and the fine line between free content and value in lead gen magnets. Me…
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Ep. 213 How will last week’s wild events shape the future of Ai video? Kipp and Kieran dive into the rapid rise of AI-created videos and its impact on marketing strategy. Learn more on the future of AI video, the potential legal and ethical challenges, and how it could revolutionize marketing automation, sales, and customer service. Mentions Fiverr…
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Welcome back to another episode of The Interiors Podcast. Today, host Tanya Neufeld Flanagan had the pleasure of interviewing Shay Lally, QS and founder of Houses To Restore. Shay and Tanya got to discuss renovations and how to work around the challenges of the budgeting when you're considering buying a property. He also gives us an insight of how …
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Ep 212 Why do major corporations need CMO’s in these changing times? Kipp and Kieran dissect the marketing faux pas that could spell disaster for even titans like Starbucks. Kipp and Kieran dive into why it’s so important to have a centralized marketing team. Learn more on the essential role of craftsmanship, expertise over regional knowledge, the …
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Ep. 211 Did you know that the simple act of brushing our teeth daily was popularized by a marketing campaign in the 1920s? This and other historical success stories demonstrate the power of timeless marketing principles that even Ai can't defy. Kieran dives into the importance of adopting fundamental marketing principles that ensure long-term succe…
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Ep. 210 Sam Altman thinks AI will do everything but 5% of what marketers do, what does that mean? Kieran dives into how to be in that 5%, since that part isn’t going away. Learn more on the biggest mistake marketers are making with AI, what that 5% includes, and what Sam’s quote actually means. Mentions Sam Altman https://blog.samaltman.com/ Midjou…
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Ep. 209 Is humor the secret sauce to capturing your first 100 customers in today's AI-driven social media landscape? Learn unconventional yet potent strategies for early-stage companies to get noticed and thrive. Kipp and Yuliya Bel (co-founder of Notus) dive into the nuances of leveraging social data and AI for personalized marketing. Learn more o…
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Ep. 208 How can you empower your website with the Ai capabilities that make you money? Kipp and Emmy Jonassen (HubSpot, VP of Marketing) dive into the transformative power of Ai-driven chat, unpack the compelling results achieved from their rigorous Ai website copilot experiment, and detail the game-changing potential of personalized website experi…
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