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Listen in on regular conversations between Les Hughes and fellow ministry leaders. Be encouraged. Be challenged. Be motivated to lead well. It's like a regular mastermind session you can attend while driving, exercising or working in your yard. https://www.leshughes.com/PLN
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Turning Big Problems into Big Opportunities with Jeremy Brown (#230)
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41:05None of us naturally enjoy when big problems suddenly come upon us in our lives. We generally do our best to stay in a place of relative comfort and avoid hardship. But the truth is, God often works through some of the most challenging circumstances in our lives to grow us to levels beyond what we ever thought possible. In this episode of the Entre…
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As leaders and entrepreneurs, it can be easy to spend much of our time frustrated with how far we feel like we have yet to go in order to reach the goals and dreams we’re pursuing. This can lead us to a posture of impatience. On the other end of the spectrum some would-be entrepreneurs stay stuck for far too long in passive inaction, waiting for ev…
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Five Tips for Healthy Self-Promotion (#228)
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25:05For many people getting started in business, there is a natural resistance and discomfort in promoting their services to the marketplace. For a PASTOR who is launching a business, this can be even more of a challenge due to years in pastoral ministry dealing with scarcity thinking and the false humility that is often prevalent in a community of Chr…
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Training Rural Pastors in Uganda with Zach Nyhuis (#227)
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40:41In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les bring you the inspiring story of Zach Nyhuis as he shares his multifaceted journey as a pastor, entrepreneur, and founder of Rural Pastors International. Zach's story begins with a life-changing trip to Uganda for his sister’s wedding, where he met Martin Nuku and realized his dream of traini…
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Coaching Clergy: A Conversation with Dr. Barbara Ettinger on Empowering Pastors (#226)
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46:43In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, we're diving into the world of coaching within pastoral ministry with our special guest, Dr. Barbara Ettinger. As an ordained pastor and leader within the Evangelical Covenant Church, Barbara brings a wealth of experience from her 30 years in ministry and her innovative coaching initiatives. Dr. Ettinger…
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In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon shares five statements of good news for pastors as we enter 2025. Listen in as he unpacks the following ideas: You have the ability to change the narrative of the starving pastor…at least for you! You have far more freedom than you’ve been led to believe. The model of the full-time pastor is quickly b…
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In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon speaks some words of encouragement and hope to any pastor who is struggling feeling discouraged, defeated, and desperate. In our work at EntrePastors, it’s not uncommon for us to hear from pastors who are so exhausted and frustrated. When they initially come to us we can see it in their posture and he…
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The Brand Collaborative with Jan Touchberry (#223)
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43:23In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon interviews Jan Touchberry as they dive deep into the intersection of ministry and business. They explore Jan’s journey from vocational ministry to launching her "accidental" business in network marketing and affiliate marketing, and how her technical and marketing skills naturally transitioned her int…
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Market Street Pastor with Eric Hoke (#222)
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50:17In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with fellow pastor and author Eric Hoke about his new book Market Street Pastor. Eric contends that pastors want to work hard to provide for their families, be radically generous, and build a legacy of ministry that they can be proud of. In the modern ministry vocation, the only way to d…
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Walking in Dominion and Wealth with Justin Johnson (#221)
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51:20In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon has an awesome conversation with Justin Johnson, founder of Dominion Wealth Strategists, a company that was founded with the sole mission of putting more money into the hands of God’s people. Justin discusses the flawed ideology that exists among some believers that celebrates poverty and avoids even…
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Pastoring, Real Estate, and Coaching with Nathan Bailey (#220)
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44:46In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon has an awesome conversation with Nathan Bailey about his journey in the pastoral and entrepreneurial space. In addition to serving as a vocational pastor, Nathan has also built a very successful real estate portfolio and property management company in recent years. We discuss how he has managed the t…
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New Day For You Financial with Katrina Fitten (#219)
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43:32In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon sits down with Katrina Fitten, the founder of New Day For You Financial. Katrina spent a season of her life in vocational ministry, but in recent years has shifted more into the marketplace as a financial coach. She primarily serves female entrepreneurs with financial literacy, coaching, and funding …
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In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon shares 10 statements, both positive and challenging about some common traits shared by the majority of pastors. It’s quite possible you will be uncomfortable with some of the statements that are made, but it’s also quite likely that you’ll hear a word of encouragement as well. Our prayer would be tha…
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In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk about a book that has made a big impact on Les in recent days called Indistractable: How To Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life by Nir Ayal. Les lays out some of the big ideas from the book as he and Jon talk about the importance of learning to be more focused and present in our …
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Thriving Financially with Joel Bromley (#216)
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50:24In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Joel Bromley about the business/ministry he and his wife Kaitlin are building in the arena of financial coaching. Joel works as a full-time firefighter and Kaitlin serves on staff in their local church, but they are both passionate about helping other people not only experience fina…
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Bringing Pastoral Skills to the Marketplace with Aaron Hansz (#215)
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38:07In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Aaron Hansz about his journey from working in the marketplace into vocational pastoral ministry. Aaron shares his unique perspective of some of the more noteworthy observations he made coming into the church world as compared to the corporate marketplace. And while Aaron is very exc…
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The Christian Capitalist with Rich Sanders (#214)
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48:30In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Rich Sanders about his new book The Christian Capitalist. Rich is a pastor, small business owner, healthcare attorney, retired adjunct professor at Emory University, and former intelligence officer in the U.S. Navy. He and his wife, Rebekah, met at church in 1996, have been blessed …
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In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Tim Walker about his incredible church planting journey as well as an exciting business he is building. Tim planted Restored Church 12 years ago in Wilkes Barre, PA. Tim describes Restored Church as an urban church that is primarily of and for the poor. They’ve seen God do incredibl…
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Divine Guidance in Business with Sean Murphy and Rusty Roberts
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55:45In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les dive into the heartfelt journeys of Rusty Roberts and Sean Murphy. Rusty, motivated by his mother’s miraculous recovery from stage 4 cancer, founded Brio Medical Clinic in Scottsdale, Arizona. His work, deeply rooted in his faith, is guided by scriptures from Psalms and a desire to help other…
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Ministry through Service-Based Business with Whitney Johnson (#211)
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45:16In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les talk with Whitney Johnson about how she is finding opportunities for ministry everywhere as a result of her service-based business. In recent years, Whitney has launched her own cleaning business with a focus of specifically serving the elderly. She shares how this is a community that is often…
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New Life in Christ Through the Marketplace with Tyson Priest
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48:20In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we share the story of our friend Tyson Priest who has been on an incredible journey over the past few years. Tyson planted and led a church in rural Indiana for a season, until it became apparent that the time had come to close the doors of the church. While on one hand this certainly represents the death…
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In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we are celebrating the powerful question of “Why?” Jon shares how so often we simply accept the status quo as it is because it’s what has been handed down to us and no one has really challenged the old paradigms by asking WHY. But when we pause long enough to ask the question of WHY, we can open our minds…
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Pivotal Moments in our EntrePastors Journey (#208)
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40:59In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les celebrate the three-year anniversary of EntrePastors by each sharing some of the defining moments in their own lives which played a large role in their decisions to think and act differently as it pertains to the financial model with which they approach pastoral ministry. They want you the lis…
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When a Congregation Embraces an Entrepreneurial Spirit with Dan Scott (#207)
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38:50In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Les talks with long-time pastor Dan Scott. Dan served Christ Church during a season in which a powerful move of the Holy Spirit took place as people were inspired, equipped, and released to go into the world and lean into their God-given gifts and talents in the marketplace. Dan captures many of the amazi…
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Overcoming an Entitled Spirit as a Pastor (#206)
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42:39In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon is going to dive into a subject that might be tough for some pastors to hear. We’re going to talk about how to overcome a spirit of entitlement. At first glance, this might not seem to have much to do with you…or does it? Jon unpacks how living in poverty can ultimately produce people who come to feel…
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Marketplace Missions Trips with Mike Henry (#205)
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40:27In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we talk with Mike Henry, founder of Follower of One, a nonprofit that helps believers integrate their faith with their work in the marketplace. Mike shares his story of coming to Christ years ago and feeling passionate about his new found faith, yet frustrated with the disconnect he often felt between the…
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Financial Freedom through Real Estate with Dustin Heiner (#204)
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42:25In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we're joined by Dustin Heiner, a real estate investment expert who transitioned from being a pastor to achieving financial independence through real estate. In this episode, Dustin delves into the nuts and bolts of building a successful real estate investment business, from finding the right city and prop…
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Empowering Women in the Marketplace with Elaine Lankford (#203)
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39:32In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, hosts Jon and Les are joined by Elaine Lankford, founder of She Steps Forward Coaching and She Steps Forward International. Elaine's incredible journey from a nursing career to empowering Christian female entrepreneurs is nothing short of remarkable. We'll dive into her personal story of transition, the …
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Helping Pastors Turn Trading Into Revenue with Michael Shafer (#202)
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38:13In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Michael Shafer, co-founder and Executive Director of G6 Allies. Not only has Michael served in pastoral ministry for his entire adult life, he has especially grown to have a heart for serving pastors. He is keenly aware of how church leaders and their families are often overwhelmed b…
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Ask the Better Question with Kevin Elworth (#201)
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58:04In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les have a conversation with pastor, business coach, and leadership expert Kevin Elworth. Kevin unpacks a powerful principle that, “Your future is designed by the questions you’re willing to answer.” Often in our lives and ministries, we find ourselves experiencing less than amazing results becaus…
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Are You Willing to Pay the Price for Your Freedom? (#200)
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16:12On this special Independence Day episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we pause for a moment to not only celebrate our nation’s independence, but to recognize the reality that many people are still living in bondage in a free society…even pastors! The truth is we encounter pastors every week who are trapped in a system of pastoral poverty and often …
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Blending Ministry and Business Success with Devin Schubert (#199)
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35:52On this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes dive into a rich conversation with their guest, Devin Schurbert. Devin shares his extraordinary journey of faith, fatherhood, and entrepreneurship. From adoption to creating successful youth ministries and multi-million-dollar businesses, Devin’s path is nothing short of …
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The Problem with “Just Have Faith” (#198)
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32:05How often have you heard the phrase, “Just have faith,” in regards to pastors and their financial situation? In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk about this often-used cliche and some of the underlying problems with it. Even though at first blush this advice sounds very spiritual, there are many other variables to consider w…
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From Pastoral Ministry to Behavioral Health with Trevor Hislop (#197)
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41:09In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we're thrilled to dive deep into the inspiring journey of Trevor Hislop, a former pastor who transitioned into the entrepreneurial world of mental health care. Join hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes as they explore how Trevor founded LiveWell Behavioral Health to address crucial gaps in community mental h…
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Finding Your Authentic Voice with Rob Wentz (#196)
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54:41In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we are excited to have Rob Wentz join us in a dynamic conversation about leadership coaching and effective communication. Rob, a seasoned leadership coach with 20 years of experience in radio broadcasting, sheds light on his journey from struggling with self-expression to becoming a communication expert.…
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Helping Others Walk in Continuous Peace with Dawn Marasco (#195)
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42:45In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les sit down with Dawn Marasco to talk about the ministry/business she is building as she is serving others who are in need of deep healing like God has done for her. Dawn shares her powerful story of how God met her at a place of deep pain and trauma in her past and brought healing and wholeness …
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Pastoring in the Marketplace with Greg Reed (#194)
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51:21In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon talks with returning guest Greg Reed about his journey from pastoring to an incredible new season of ministry called “workplace life coaching.” With over four decades of pastoral ministry experience and a passion for reaching others, Greg transitioned to a workplace life coach role, bringing faith int…
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Entrepreneurship and Ministry with Danny Holwerda (#193)
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46:21In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon Sanders and Les Hughes have an incredible conversation with Pastor Danny Holwerda. They talk about how pastors, with their unique people skills, can thrive in business. Danny shares his journey of balancing ministry, entrepreneurship, and overcoming financial struggles while maintaining a heart of se…
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Do Pastors Lack the Grit to be Entrepreneurs? with Joshua Brown (#192)
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1:00:34In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les welcome back returning guest Joshua Brown…aka “The Pressure Washing Pastor,” to wrestle with the question of whether or not pastors lack the grit to make good entrepreneurs. Joshua unpacks some of his thoughts about how the traditional model of vocational ministry has helped to reinforce a spi…
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On this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Lori Sheldon, author of the best-selling book Change of Heart in which she writes about caring for and walking alongside her husband through his heart transplant journey. Lori also shares the story of how God brought her into contact with Jon and Les and the role that EntrePastors pl…
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Pastoring and Commercial Cleaning with Joseph Bennett (#190)
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37:43On this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon Sanders and Les Hughes welcome guest Joseph Bennett, who shares his journey from the medical field to full-time ministry on a foreign mission field, and then from life in Honduras to returning to the United States where he now balances serving a pastor along with running a commercial cleaning business…
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Integrating Kingdom Values in the Marketplace with Ray Hilbert (#189)
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37:00In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Ray Hilbert, founder of The Kingdom Factor, about the integration of faith and business. Ray shares the journey of his career and how he has navigated the challenges of aligning Christian values in corporate environments. Ray, Jon, and Les examine the American church's historical de…
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Bringing Business Acumen to the Church with Ryan Follis (#188)
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58:24In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Ryan Follis shares the story of his amazing transition journey from a corporate role with Target in which he honed significant skills in leadership and business acumen into the world of pastoral ministry. Ryan unpacks some of the struggles and frustrations he experienced as he made that transition and how…
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Coaching Others to Financial Freedom with Scott Tharp (#187)
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52:23In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast we welcome Scott Tharp, a bi-vocational pastor and financial coach, who shares his transformative journey from pastoral ministry to founding his business, Krisco Coaching. Motivated by personal financial triumphs and biblical principles, Scott now aids individuals in conquering financial difficulties, cha…
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Authorized for Impact with Aisha “Wonderfull” Jackson (#186)
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51:28In this inspiring episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Aisha “Wonderful” Jackson as she shares her transformative journey from corporate CFO to self-published author and entrepreneur. Facing tech barriers and self-doubt, Aisha embraced coaching, applied crucial business strategies, and underwent a profound spiritual realignmen…
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The Intrepreneur Academy: a Vision for Internal Entrepreneurs with Scott Benham (#185)
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40:20In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Scott Benham, founder of the Intreprenuer Academy. Scott is on a mission to help people realize their giftings and talents to show up in the marketplace as key “intreprenuers” within growing organizations. He explains that people with an intrepreneurial mindset are similar to entrepr…
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Uniting Business Acumen with Spiritual Mission with Chaz Freutel
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53:02In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon talks with Chaz Freutel, a 'kingdompreneur,' and Director of the NOBLE Foundation Group (Network of Business and Entrepreneurial Leaders) about integrating entrepreneurship with Christianity. He encourages churches to make better use of underutilized spaces by creating entrepreneur centers and support…
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From Toxic Scarcity to Healthy Abundance with Eric Reploeg (#183)
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49:03For anyone who might find themselves serving in a toxic ministry culture where scarcity is the prevailing mindset, yet dreaming of a day where you could be walking in freedom and abundance, this episode is going to be a huge encouragement to you! In this “Saturday Replay” episode, Jon and Les have a conversation with Eric Reploeg about his journey …
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Chaplaincy in the Marketplace with Carl Cox (#182)
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35:58In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Carl Cox about embracing marketplace opportunities for ministry. Carl shares his experience of expanding his ministry beyond traditional church walls and building relationships with diverse groups, including businesses, sports teams and first responders agencies. He emphasizes …
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An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.” It’s not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry. The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor. In this 4-part miniseries of podcast epi…
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