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Join sisters Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz as they walk through 11 verses to help you overcome negative thinking with God's truth. They talk about their own struggles with things like anxiety, fear, and insecurity and how God's truth has helped them find joy, peace, and victory. Read along in their book: Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God's Truth.
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Dwell Differently

Natalie Abbott & Vera Schmitz

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If you were our friend, and if we could look you in the eyes and see your struggles and know you fully, and if we could only give you ONE thing—we'd give you God’s Word. There is more power and love and truth in one verse than in a thousand other words. So, let us help you memorize God's words in a simple, easy way. We hope you'll love listening in while we chat about what our verse means, why it matters, and how it intersects with our daily lives.
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Venturing Women

Darya Kamkalova

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A podcast for entrepreneurial women: founders, builders, changemakers shaping the world we live in. Women entrepreneurs, investors and startup ecosystem enablers share their stories, knowledge, fears and failures, moments of growth, and pieces of advice. With these conversations, we want to inspire more women to build their own businesses and shape the world we live in. Podcast Host: Darya Kamkalova
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“If you are walking around right now carrying a heavy burden of shame and guilt, and you feel like there is no way God could forgive you, you are wrong…that sin has already been paid for by the blood of Christ.” — Natalie Abbott Our verse this month is a message we all need to hear again and again. Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Different…
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Today we're resharing one of our most inspiring episodes about how God uses ordinary people to make an extraordinary impact. You won't want to miss hearing Jonathan Almonte’s story. He was born into poverty in the Dominican Republic with no education and no prospects. But God changed the trajectory of his life entirely when a 20-something from Mich…
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“Are the actions plugged into faith, or are they unplugged? What are we operating out of? Are we operating out of a duty to do these things because that's the right thing to do? Or are we plugged into faith and motivated by the love God has for us to do the things we're called to do?" — Vera Schmitz What's the difference between false religiosity a…
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“I would just encourage people to step out and love those people in front of you...you're just trying to impact one by one. And that's all that any of us can do.” — Jenny McGee Join Natalie Abbott as she talks with Jenny McGee, founder of Starfish Project. They talk about Jenny's specific calling to help exploited and trafficked women and girls fin…
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“God has done so much for us in Christ Jesus, and it is beautiful and it is wonderful, and it should change the way we live out our faith—both externally and internally." — Natalie Abbott Today, Natalie Abbott talks about how the book of James is like an ice plunge—a wake-up call for us to live out our faith. And James 1:27 (our memory verse) is wh…
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"These are not just good words, these are powerful, true, universe-creating words that you are speaking into your soul...these words have the power to completely transform your life. We believe that. We've experienced that." — Vera Schmitz On today's episode, Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz are talking about their new book Dwell Differently: Overco…
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“The words that we speak simply are revealing what’s already there—they’re not making it, they’re not creating it, they’re just the thing that spills over.” — Courtney Doctor Join Natalie Abbott and Courtney Doctor as they discuss how what we say reveals what’s going on inside us, how seeing the ugliness within us come out can sometimes be a gift, …
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“Memorizing Scripture…actually stores up the good thing in my heart. The only good things I have are from the Lord. The only good in me is from the Lord….Any goodness that I perform or any kindness that I have first comes from a truth that I’m believing about God or about myself.” — Vera Schmitz What are you filling your mind and heart with these d…
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"That's my hope...that you would have caught a glimpse of the real-life way of applying God's Word to your life, of dwelling in God's Word, of knowing it and allowing it to just be the most grounding thing for you, and that it's helped you overcome the things that you're struggling with." — Natalie Abbott On today's episode: Vera and Natalie wrap u…
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"We can create new paths in our brains. That is a very possible thing for us! Just like we create those superhighways of negativity, we can actually create superhighways of positivity, of truth, of God's Word. And that's what we're trying to help you do in this book." — Natalie Abbott On today's episode: Vera and Natalie talk about their own tenden…
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"When we follow Jesus, when we accept God's love, we are children of God. And that's beautiful." — Vera Schmitz On today's episode: Vera and Natalie talk in detail about the radical love God has for us when we trust in Jesus. They answer this question: What do you most need to hear and believe about God's love for you—that it's dependable, extravag…
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"If [my confidence] is based on Jesus and who he is and his acceptance of me and his love for me...then all of a sudden, I am secure." — Natalie Abbott On today's episode: What are your shaky foundations? Where are you out in the wasteland trying to pull life-giving water out of dry sand? What are the things you're putting your trust in instead of …
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"That is actually the biggest nightmare that anyone could ever have: You have done a bad thing, and there is no forgiveness for you. But the best news is...you have done a bad thing (you've maybe done a lot of bad things) and there is forgiveness for you. This is the message of this verse. This is the message of Scripture for us: that Christ has ma…
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"Whatever you're anxious about, it's real. Don't feel dumb or ashamed because other people don't deal with the thing you're dealing with in the same way that you're dealing with it." — Vera Schmitz On today's episode: Vera and Natalie are talking about anxiety. This is something Vera has struggled with over the years in big and small ways, and her …
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"So here's the thing that I think is so helpful: there's not resolution in this Psalm. And I know that's gonna sound really dark, but sometimes I think we need to feel like we're not alone in there not being a solution." —Natalie Abbott On today's episode: What do you do when you feel depressed? Today, Natalie and Vera talk about the dark seasons o…
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"I need physical cues of God's past faithfulness in order to coach my head and heart toward strength and courage in my current fears." — Vera Schmitz, Dwell Differently On today's episode: Vera and Natalie are talking about fear. They talk about how this verse isn't trite or shallow, but the very thing that we need when we do hard things, things th…
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"Every day I wake up and it's a battle and a challenge and a choice to pause in the morning and ask the Lord, "What would you have me do with this day?" OR hit the ground and immediately start thinking about my schedule and all the things I need to do and all the boxes I need to check...this verse is a true daily surrendering...it is the perfect pr…
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"God wants to be near you. He will be near you, even in your silence. Sitting in silence with him is a great place to start." — Vera Schmitz On today's episode: What do you do when the very thing you need to do (pray) is the very thing you feel like you can't do? Today, Vera and Natalie talk about how the Spirit of God prays for us when we don't kn…
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"O my weary and burdened friend, this rest is for you! Do you know you need it? That's all you need to know." — Natalie Abbott, Dwell Differently On today's episode: What are some of the ways you seek superficial rest when you really need the soul rest of Christ? How can you seek him first for the deep rest you need the next time you find yourself …
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"Jesus declared his victory in the middle of his trouble." — Vera Schmitz, Dwell Differently On today's episode: Vera and Natalie talk about the significance of the timing of Jesus's declaration that he has (already) overcome the world. Because he declares victory even before his death and resurrection, we can have peace in our own unresolved troub…
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“We have that ability—we can take God’s Word and when it’s ingrained in us we can just take it and pick it up and pray it over ourselves and pray it over our loved ones.” — Jennifer Dukes Lee Today, Jennifer Dukes Lee joins Natalie Abbott to talk about Luke 6:45a, and you won't want to miss it. Jennifer talks vulnerably about how God has met and su…
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“What you store up in your heart—either good or bad—has a real effect in your life. And the good things that come out of your heart, or the bad things, are the result of what you’re putting inside of you. So here’s the thing: we can know what’s going on inside of us by evaluating what’s coming out of us.” — Natalie Abbott Have you ever said somethi…
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“God invites us to participate in what we’re seeing there in Ezekiel 36 and 37. It’s not that we’re making this heart of stone into a heart of flesh—God’s the actor. It’s not that we’re making these dry bones come alive—God’s doing that. But he invites us to be a part of that. That is an incredible privilege and it’s exciting.” — Mike Grenier If yo…
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“When you get to the end of yourself and you’re truly honest with yourself, and then you hear this, and you hear that God comes right then with the promises, ‘I’ll give you a new heart and put my spirit in you,’ that is so good.” — Vera Schmitz We can be tempted to think we just need to be “cleaned up” before coming to Jesus, but our verse this mon…
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"The very thing that we most deeply need as human beings we can’t actually do for ourselves. It’s the work of God in us.” — Natalie Abbott What do you do when you find yourself not caring spiritually, when your heart feels cold toward God? What does it look like to have a heart that is soft toward the Lord? Join Natalie Abbott and Nicole Zasowski a…
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“God has given us his own Spirit, and that’s how as believers we are able, by the power of the Holy Spirit, to follow him and to do what is right. But so often, we don’t. And that’s where this verse has been following me around. This verse has been convicting my heart where it’s hard and convicting my spirit where it’s unwilling and not wanting to …
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"We all have stuff. Big stuff. Work stuff. Health stuff. Relationship (marriage, friend, children) stuff. Past stuff. Present stuff. Just stuff." —Vera Schmitz, Dwell Differently On today's episode: Vera and Natalie are talking about how they deal with their own stuff—their anxiety, insecurity, depression, and other various negative thoughts. They …
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“We have a God who first loved us…and sacrificed for us and served us, and that’s a beautiful, beautiful thing." — Jason Abbott This month’s verse raises so many questions: Why is Jesus able to be a ransom for us? What does this verse teach us about the kingdom of God? How does our servant-King’s example impact the way we live our lives? What shoul…
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“If we make Christ greater, then we are thinking of ourselves less…I just want my life to be about Christ…it’s Christ above all, Christ greatest, Christ more. That’s what I want. And so I think that if that is true of me, then service out of that is easier and also I stop vying for position and rank and approval.” — Vera Schmitz Do you tend to keep…
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“Jesus is trying to flip everything you expect upside down so that you can see him as he actually is.” — Caroline Saunders Caroline Saunders joins Dwell Differently’s Natalie Abbott for a super honest conversation about what greatness really is, how to explain the truth of this month’s memory verse to a 10-year-old, what a ransom is, and more. You …
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“He came to serve us because we are actually incapable of doing the thing that we most desperately need, which is to be made right before God.” — Natalie Abbott How would you answer the question Jesus asks twice in Mark 10: “What do you want me to do for you?”? If you’re anything like us, you may wrestle with what you think that answer should be an…
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When it comes to control, we often tend to fell like we have it all under control or like everything is spinning out of control. Our verse this month tells us neither is true. Jesus is the one who is in control. On todays episode our guest, Joanna Kimbrel, shares just how easy it is for us to live under the illusion of our self control, asking Nata…
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“He sees everything, and there is a peace that comes when you remind yourself of how big and capable he is to hold all things together.” — Vera Schmitz What do you do when peace feels elusive and all the plates that are spinning feel like they’re about to crash? Join Dwell Differently co-founders and sisters, Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, as the…
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“But the Lord, I believe, in his mercy brought me to the end of myself and just said, ‘Actually, Jen, you can’t do it all. You are not self made. You are not self-sufficient. I made you—and I made you for me. And that’s where you’re going to find peace.’” — Jen Oshman What do you do when overwhelm strikes? Or when you find yourself in a place of re…
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If you've ever felt like everything depends on you (maybe you even feel that way right now), like you're the one holding it all together, then today's message is for you! Here is the good news: everything does not depend on you, you are not the one holding it all together. Jesus is. He made, sustains, and will redeems all things. And this is exactl…
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Have you ever struggled with fear, control, or busyness? Who doesn't?! We wanted to revisit this topic today by sharing one of our all-time most helpful episodes (first released in August 2022). Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz shares how memorizing specific truths from God's Word has helped set her free from these struggles in her own lif…
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What is God's purpose for us in our pain and suffering? How do we walk through our trials in faithful prayer and even joy? In this episode, Kristen Wetherell answers these questions with vulnerable honesty. Kristen is a pastor's wife, busy mom of three, author, speaker, and she also suffers from chronic pain. In our conversation today, she helps us…
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Our verse this month is Romans 12:12: "Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer." How in the world do we live like this? How do we have joy in our unrealized hopes? How do we patiently endure hardship? How do we faithfully pray in all of it? On today's episode, Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz wrestle through how they try (and of…
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Have you ever wanted to pray but couldn't find the words? In today's episode, Natalie talks with Andrew Peterson and Doug McKelvey about prayer—how we find time to pray in the midst of our lives, how we find words to pray when words are elusive, and how God wants to meet us in all of our emotions and situations with himself. This month’s memory ver…
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Are you good at waiting? Do you want to be? Our verse this month is all about waiting well. In it, we're encouraged to be joyful and patient and faithful in the unrealized and even difficult parts of our lives. But how do we do that? Tune in as Natalie Abbott walks us through the book of Romans, looking at the themes we see in Romans 12:12, and poi…
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Join Vera and Natalie, sisters and Dwell Differently co-founders, as they look back at 2023 and take a sneak peak into some exciting updates for Dwell Differently in 2024. They talk about which verses impacted them the most, their favorite podcast guests of the year, and what they're looking forward to in the new year! This month’s memory verse: "B…
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Tara-Leigh Cobble is convinced that everything we long for in life is found in knowing God and reading his Word—but she didn't always feel that way. In today's episode, she shares with Natalie Abbot her own story of how God moved her from a place of not wanting to read the Bible to actually loving it. She talks about being surprised and encouraged …
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Do you feel like you have to get everything right all of the time? On today's episode, Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz talk about the freedom Jesus offers us when we trust in his perfection instead of relying on our own performance. Vera shares honestly about her regular struggle of trying to prove her worth and how verses like Titus 3:4–5a help he…
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Randall Goodgame of Slugs and Bugs joins Natalie Abbott to talk about how memorizing Scripture has impacted his life. They dig into how he found freedom in pointing his kids to Jesus as a dad, the mercy and kindness of God in Titus 3:4–5a, and the ministry the Lord has given him to help families have fun and learn Scripture together! This month’s m…
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If you’re feeling overwhelmed with all the Christmas things, this episode is for YOU today! Listen in as Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, walks us through the context of this month’s memory verses, highlighting 3 things from the book of Titus: who we were, who we are, and being who we are. Jesus came—and he came for us. This is the …
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Tune into this raw conversation between Jarred Lopes of Dad Tired and Matt Schmitz (husband of Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz) as they offer real encouragement and hope for dads who want to find their identity in Jesus, be spiritual leaders in their homes, and walk in the freedom of the gospel. And for any men who long to live like this,…
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Vera Schmitz brings us a heart check-up today: If we truly take inventory, are we just wanting the blessings of God, or are we wanting God himself? Tune in to hear a powerful quote from John Piper, the story of Vera’s battle with anxiety and what she learned in that season, and some helpful questions to evaluate what your heart is truly treasuring …
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Do you find yourself more afraid of losing earthly treasure than your spiritual health? Ouch. If we’re honest, we all find ourselves there sometimes, and today Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz want to help us reorient our hearts toward our greatest treasure: Jesus Christ. Tune in to hear them talk about the story behind this month’s verse design, an…
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What comes to mind when you think of “treasure”? More importantly, what does Jesus say about it? Join Jerrad Lopes, founder of Dad Tired, and Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently as they dig into our memory verse for the month: Matthew 6:21. They take a look at the context of our verse, dig into what the Bible has to say about treasure a…
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“Is your heart wrapped up in something right now that it cannot lose? Something that's lasting, something that's dependable, something that won't break it. Is your heart confident, rested, and secure? Is your heart set on the incorruptible, unfading, forever treasures of heaven? Or, is your heart filled with something that it dreads losing?” — Nata…
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