Stories and interviews addressing the intersection of the creative process, community, and place. Welcome to In Site, a podcast from the Zion Canyon Mesa, a nascent arts and humanities residency center in Springdale, Utah, surrounded by Zion National Park. One of the primary drivers for these podcasts is concern for our times. To paraphrase Yeats, the center feels besieged. So we’ll consider the many crux issues we face, with an eye towards how creative thinking can play a role. We will enga ...
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“The Crucible of Friendship:" A conversation between Judith Freeman and Teresa Jordan
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According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a friend is “one joined to another in mutual benevolence and intimacy. Not ordinarily applied to lovers or relatives…a boon companion.” It first appears in “Beowolf” in 1018 A.D. as “freondum.” Though the opposite of “fiend,” both words root in the same Germanic word soup for “love” and “hate,” so therefo…
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“Wisdom In Patience” - The Re-Emergence Of Glen Canyon
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We’ve podcasted about the Lake Powell Pipeline, so we thought, as the drought continues and water levels continue to drop, let’s go have a look. We told our board about the idea and it turns out that board member Catherine Smith rafted the Colorado River through Glen Canyon as a teenager in 1955. We were so pleased that she insisted on coming along…
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“Steer the Wind:” Audrey Tang is Saving the World with Direct Digital Democracy
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For anyone concerned about the current global state of Democracy, which should be everyone, Audrey Tang, Taiwan’s Digital Minister, may be our greatest hope: “I’m not here to make citizens transparent to government, I’m here to make government transparent to citizens.” She has flipped Big Brother, proving that this very same unprecedented internet …
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Helper, Utah and the Mysteries of Community: Part 3 "The Ineffable Authentic"
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In Part 3, we continue searching for that special something that no one can quite put their finger on; whatever it is that is drawing people to Helper like a magnet. Gary DeVincent made his way to Helper because he has an eye for quality. He has been restoring old motorcycles and cars his whole life, giving him a penchant for recognizing things tha…
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"Genders: The Story Of Us All" - with Kathryn Bond Stockton
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In her new book Gender(s), a new volume in the MIT Press Essential Knowledge series, Kathryn Bond Stockton explores the fascinating, fraught, intimate, morphing matter of gender. Stockton argues for gender's strangeness, no matter how normal the concept seems; gender is queer for everyone, she claims, even when it's played quite straight. And she e…
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Helper, Utah And The Mysteries Of Community: Part 2 “Art As Caring”
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With the downturn of the coal mines in the 70s and 80s came a period of economic decline for Helper, Utah. The town was starting to look a little shabby, so proud residents Neida Garcia and Lois Giordano took it upon themselves to spruce things up a bit. They started planting flowers on Main Street with a hunch that caring would beget caring. They …
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Helper, Utah and the Mysteries of Community: Part 1 "Utah's Melting Pot"
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What constitutes a community? What do they form around, the seed? What makes them persist over time? Helper, Utah was founded as a “helper engine” town in 1881. Here trains would pick up an extra engine to help them up the steep, relentless grade of Price Canyon and over Soldier Summit. At the beginning of the 20th century, Helper was a booming rai…
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Variant: A Celebration at Modern West Fine Art
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The American West somehow still maintains its foothold in the global subconscious, its raw and alluring brew of archetypes, wide-open dreamscapes of canyons and mountains, cowboys and Indians, grizzly bears and buffalo. As such, quote/unquote “Western Art” continues to make coin by milking these fantasies. But of course, that West is long gone, if …
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The Thirteen Moons of Henry Real Bird
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“WOOOOO! To see the beauty. To see the beauty. It feels like you want to put all that beauty on top of you like that in the morning when the sun comes up and everything, you know?...and then at night, to be able to stand on Mother Earth to look out among the stars…so then things have changed and I’ve been baptized a bunch of times you know, but all…
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The Anthropology of Truth Part 1 - The Seductions of Clarity: Philosophy for a Flattened World with Thi Nguyen
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“I’m interested in the ways that our social structures and technologies shape how we think and what we value.” C. Thi Nguyen This podcast is the first of a series on “The Anthropology of Truth.” Today in the U.S., truth, facts, and science are under unprecedented assault. What is happening? Is this just old news for us, perhaps forever stuck in Pla…
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The Power of Music: Mark Johnson and Playing for Change
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It’s impossible. A horn section in Burkina Faso backs a string quartet in Lyon, France, together with guitarists in Nepal and Madrid while a choir in Manila supports the singer in Haiti and an African kora soloist, and we aren’t halfway through the video. Everyone plays outside, in city streets, courtyards, in front of temples, in marketplaces, tra…
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A Conversation about Practice - with Kim Stafford and Teresa Jordan
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Join Teresa Jordan and Kim Stafford in an ongoing conversation about practice. They talk about the benefits of cultivating a daily practice, not just for the purpose of becoming a better artist or writer, but also because it can improve one’s life. As Kim puts it, you may not write something good every day, but if you write every day “it will be a …
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Craig Childs - "The Madness of Disassociation"
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Craig Childs makes a point of going to the very places he’s writing about and immersing himself in them. In The Secret Knowledge of Water, he traces his very being into the rock itself by mapping waterholes in the Cabeza Prieta. In House of Rain, he follows the Ancestral Puebloans across the desert, walking in their footsteps to gain a particular k…
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Is the Water Wet? - Lake Powell Pipeline Part 3 with Jane Whalen
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Having created historical context for the pipeline in two previous podcasts, In Site now explores the pipeline itself. Jane Whalen, board member of Conserve Southwest Utah and Coordinator of the Lake Powell Pipeline Coalition, was the primary architect of their collective, incredibly thorough and detailed one hundred and eighty-six page objection t…
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American Zion - Betsy Gaines Quammen Interview
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“A map of the American West is a Rorschach test; people see what they want to see as reflections of who they are.” Betsy Gaines Quammen Betsy’s conservation work in Mongolia with Buddhist monks on fisheries and in Bhutan for snow leopards centered on finding common ground between religion’s ancient roots and the modern precepts of conservation. Aft…
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Daniel Kemmis - Citizens Uniting to Restore our Democracy
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Today we talk with Daniel Kemmis. Daniel studied both philosophy and political science, and names Plato, Rousseau, Jefferson, and Gandhi as his primary influences. He was minority leader and speaker of the house in the Montana State Legislature during the ‘80s, when the Sagebrush Rebellion was at its height. Later, he served as Mayor of Missoula. T…
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Photography as Medicine - Russel Albert Daniels
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The Spanish enslavement of Indigenous peoples across the Southwest was an immense market in humans, second only to that of African Americans. Severed from their lands and cultures, how did some of them create a path forward? Who are the Genízaro? How can Catholicism and Indigenous traditions coexist, perhaps even synergize, in one community? And ho…
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Richard Grant Interview - The Deepest South of All: True Stories from Natchez, Mississippi
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Here we explore the ongoing repercussions of slavery, observed through the microcosm of Natchez, Mississippi, with Richard Grant, in his fifth book “The Deepest South of All.” Moving from England to Mississippi, Richard brings this distinct perspective and keen, compassionate eye to try to understand the “sleight of mind” that America still maintai…
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Is The Water Wet? - Lake Powell Pipeline Part 2 with Eric Kuhn
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Eric digs into how politicians ignored drought data to create the 1922 Colorado River Compact, and how that intentional myopia continued for almost a century. Today, the entire basin must finally reckon with what has been true all along; that the allocated water just is not there. He busts two foundational myths along the way, one about the science…
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Barry Lopez Interview "What Do I Mean By My Life?"
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“No one can miss the alarm now in the air.” Barry Lopez, “Horizon” He was born on the Epiphany of 1945 and died this Christmas. During a reading years ago, he created a spell of silence over the crowd with a particularly compelling piece. He could have taken a personal bow, but instead simply said; “English is a beautiful, powerful language, isn’t …
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"Is The Water Wet?" Lake Powell Pipeline Part 1 with Greg Smoak
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This is Part One of a three-part series on the proposed Lake Powell Pipeline (LPP). The first two podcasts explore the historical roots of the complex issues underpinning the pipeline proper. Here, Historian Greg Smoak joins us to discuss the origins of water law in the West, beginning with, appropriately enough, the lake’s namesake John Wesley Pow…
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