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1 David French | Friends or Enemies? Overcoming Divides with Justice, Kindness, and Humility in a Polarized America 1:15:36
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In this episode, we welcome back David French, columnist for The New York Times , former constitutional attorney, and author of Divided We Fall . We discuss the current state of American democracy, the challenges of political division, and how we can engage in civil discourse despite deep ideological differences. David also shares a personal update on his family and reflects on the profound trials and growth that come with adversity. 📌 What We Discuss: ✔️ How David and his family navigated the challenges of a serious health crisis. ✔️ The rise of political polarization and the factors driving it. ✔️ Why distinguishing between “unwise, unethical, and unlawful” is crucial in analyzing political actions. ✔️ How consuming different perspectives (even opposing ones) helps in understanding political dynamics. ✔️ The role of Christian values in politics and how they are being redefined. ⏳ Episode Highlights 📍 [00:01:00] – David French’s background and his journey from litigation to journalism. 📍 [00:02:30] – Personal update: David shares his wife Nancy’s battle with cancer and their journey as a family. 📍 [00:06:00] – How to navigate personal trials while maintaining faith and resilience. 📍 [00:10:00] – The danger of political paranoia and the pitfalls of extreme polarization. 📍 [00:18:00] – The "friend-enemy" paradigm in American politics and its influence in Christian fundamentalism. 📍 [00:24:00] – Revisiting Divided We Fall : How America’s divisions have devolved since 2020. 📍 [00:40:00] – The categories and differences of unwise, unethical, and unlawful political actions. 📍 [00:55:00] – The balance between justice, kindness, and humility in political engagement. 📍 [01:00:00] – The After Party initiative: A Christian approach to politics focused on values rather than policy. 💬 Featured Quotes 🔹 "You don't know who you truly are until your values are tested." – David French 🔹 "If we focus on the relational, we can have better conversations even across deep differences." – Corey Nathan 🔹 "Justice, kindness, and humility—if you're missing one, you're doing it wrong." – David French 🔹 "The United States has a history of shifting without repenting. We just move on." – David French 📚 Resources Mentioned David French’s Writing: New York Times David’s Book: Divided We Fall The After Party Initiative – More Info Advisory Opinions Podcast (with Sarah Isgur & David French) – Listen Here 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack David French: 🔗 Twitter | BlueSky | New York Times Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…
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It's finally time for the Season 3 finale of WestWorld, and I am feeling a multitude of ways about it. On the one hand, there were elements here that I really liked and found interesting. On the other hand, I was left with a sense that the season ended 2/3 of the way through the story. The one thing that saved it was the post-credits stinger, which I nearly missed until RoShawn told me it was there, and I find it odd how many crucial elements have been in stingers instead of in the actual show. Anyway, I'm left feeling vaguely unsatisfied, and I want to hear what you all think! Thanks for listening, everyone!…
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Sorry I'm late, everyone! I can't believe that this is the penultimate episode of this season. There just seems like so much remains to be wrapped up, and I can't imagine how all that can possibly happen in the finale episode? I don't know what we're doing! This episode is when we find out the truth of Caleb's background and what's been done to him. Turns out, he's considered an undesirable, and he along with his old cohort Francis, have been sicced on other undesirables to take them out. It's honestly really fucked up and super efficient. Ugh. Thanks so much for listening, and I will see you next week with the finale!…
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Hello, hosts and humans, and welcome to the next bananas episode of WestWorld! In this one, there's some really wild stuff happening with VR therapy and it really feels like there's something of the poetic in what's happening to William here. He's forced to face himself and the things he's done and the fuckups...and yet. He's fucking William, and he's too vain and full of his own importance to see the reality of what garbage he truly is, instead deciding that it all comes down to one thing: he's the good guy. Meanwhile, Charlotte is out here getting caught by Ciroc, and despite the fact that she seems to be losing faith in Dolores's plan, she still carries out one of the more brutal attacks, by crush Hector's pearl. And honestly, that shit was hard to watch. Poor fucking Maeve. Thanks so much for listening, and I will see you soon with a new episode!…
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I can't believe that we're nearly 2/3 of the way through this season of WestWorld already! I feel like the story is just getting rolling, and the fact that this is an even shorter season than usual makes me a little nervous about the overall arc and how this is all going to be wrapped up. This episode is super eventful, and a great deal of the action centers around Liam and the fact that he's still not aware how very little he is in charge of the situation. Liam continues to underestimate Delores, he tries to plant seeds of doubt in Caleb's mind, and he does not understand that the people he's dealing really don't have anything left to lose. Thank you so much for listening, everyone, and I hope you're enjoying the show! See you next week!…
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1 WestWorld S03E04- The Mother Of Exiles 2:06:53
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Sorry I'm late, everyone! It's been a rough decade. This episode is one that reveals something I had suspected for a minute, which is that everyone that Delores is working with is also a Delores, and honestly I'm just so jealous and also very very concerned because humanity could not be up against a worse enemy. The Man In Black is back, and he's not doing so well. He's wracked with guilt over murdering his daughter, even though he seems to be unwilling to admit to himself that guilt is what he's feeling, and Charlotte is able to trap him so effectively that I can't help but be impressed. Thanks so much for listening, and I will see you soon with a new episode!…
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Sooooo, you'll hear about the problem with this episode when you start listening. More like the absence of sound, amirite? There's so much that's lost with the first half being missing, from us looking up what "absence of field" means (it's what they call the lack of stars around a black hole), to my wild theorizing on who is inside Charlotte. Is it more Dolores? Can she do that? Also, I have a theory that Dolores winding up in Caleb's arms is no accident; I think she picked him out based on who the algorithm said was the most desperate. Anyway, I'm sorry about the issues this episode, and I will see you next week!…
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Greetings, listeners! It's time for the next episode of WestWorld, and in this episode we find out that a lot more people are hosts than we thought. Like, a LOT a lot. This episode is mostly focused on Maeve and the situation she wakes up in, seemingly back in another park. However, she begins to see the cracks and gradually realizes that the whole thing is an illusion, in a much more literal way than WestWorld was, and begins to devise a way to break herself out. The only problem is that "breaking out" of the illusion lands her squarely in the lap of yet another person who can control her. It really sucks. Meanwhile, Bernard is out here trying to find Maeve, and stumbles across Stubbs. GUESS WHAT! He's also a host, and he's gonna be here to protect Bernard for the foreseeable future, which really does make me feel a little better. Thanks so much to you all for listening, and I will see you next week with a new episode!…
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It's time for us to embark on coverage of the third season of this sweeping, epic, robot opera, and I have to say...I have no idea where this season is heading. Meanwhile, RoShawn is giggling to herself because she's smug as hell. (Not really but c'mon let me have this.) This is a helluva start to the season, kids! Thanks for listening, and we will see you next week.…
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First thing's first! Please check out our sponsor, Day 11 Podcast at www.day11podcast.com and give them some love! I would like to report that on this our final episode, I finally got why they are called that. I am not proud. This episode was not my favorite, and I'm totally sitting here willing to hear you out if you've got some information that will help me out with deciphering this. I watched it a couple times, read some articles that supposedly broke the timelines down, RoShawn watched a video that allegedly would help us make sense of it...and yet. We still struggled throughout this whole episode (it doesn't help that RoShawn was on a bunch of medication and foggy as hell). I can't help but wonder if the show is falling into that trap of trying to do to much and be too clever, you know? Like they still wanted to play with time the way they did last season, but because they knew everyone was going to be looking for that, they decided to make it trickier...to the point that you need charts and graphs to make sense of it, which is frankly just not how I want to watch TV. And there were other issues this season, like Wyatt's plan that made no sense at Forlorn Hope. I have gotten a lot of comments and messages suggesting what that plan was about, and the fact that it seemed like everyone had a totally different (and very unsupported) theory makes me feel pretty secure in my camp, which I call "It Didn't Make Sense And They're Just Hoping You Will Be Distracted By How Ruthless Wyatt Is And Not Notice". Anyway, here's hoping that the next season will be a little more coherent. Thanks for listening, everyone, and I can't wait to see you again.…
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Hey there, wonderful listeners! My apologies on being late with the episode this week, but there was a mixup and RoShawn sent me the wrong file, so I will just keep pointing fingers at her. Thank you all for your understanding, now go yell at RoShawn. This episode had serious ups and downs for me, and I'm still not totally sure how I feel about it. I think a lot of how I'm going to remember it will depend on the finale, and whether some of the things I didn't like wind up coming to fruition in a satisfying way. Mostly, though, I'm really interested in trying to piece together where in time everyone is, and especially in trying to figure out what's going on with Bernard. Is there more than one version of him walking around? I'm assuming that isn't the case but I can't be sure. And he's able to defy Ford and take the action he wants to take, without hurting Elsie. That seems like a good sign, ut I don't know what game Ford is playing, so....is it? Honestly this is a really complex series of events happening right now and I haven't the faintest idea how they will wrap any of it up in just one episode. I guess we shall see! Thanks for listening.…
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This here episode was a labor of love, so show your appreciation by checking out our sponsor, Day 11 Podcast at www.day11podcast.com ! Let's sit down for a minute and talk about how this was my favorite EVER episode of WestWorld, and how I don't even want to return to the main storyline next week because I'm so invested in what's going on with Ghost Nation. I just want more of this, all the time. This episode has the beautiful, heart-wrenching hero's journey, impeccable acting, well written story, and awesome payoff at the end. It was just awesome, and I love it, and thanks for listening.…
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I'm very sorry that RoShawn and I won't be making up for missing last week's episode like we had intended; we recorded this episode and the next one on Thursday and Friday of last week, but sadly something happened to RoShawn's file for the next episode. It was tragic. So there won't be a double-feature this week as we planned. It's doubly sad because I really didn't care for this episode, and the next one is SO GOOD that I couldn't wait to post about that one as a palate-cleanser for this one. Alas, it was not to be, so you're stuck with me being confused and quoting Dr. Seuss as I try to understand what the fuck is even going on. The main thing that is tough for me is how many conversations begin, then get interrupted, and then restart or are dropped, over and over again. There is so much that we see *GET REVEALED* rather than actually have revealed to us, which is a pretty important distinction. What I mean by that is, for example, we already know Bernard is a host but there's a kind of drawn-out scene where everyone else finds out. It's far less interesting to watch when we all already know the twist. Anyway, I'm curious what you all thought about this episode. And I CANNOT WAIT to talk about the next one again.…
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Check out our sponsor, Day 11 Podcast, at www.day11podcast.com ! Hello you beautiful humans, and welcome to a world where nothing makes sense to me anymore. This episode starts out in one of the most jarring ways I can imagine, and that's with a complete role-reversal during what has become a very familiar series of routine check-ins between Dolores and Bernard. This scene ends with Dolores holding the board that controls Bernard, talking about fidelity, and I am totally unsure what to make of any of this. Then there's what's going on with Maeve and her daughter. She's finally found the little girl and clearly has an enormous connection with her, so that has remained the same somehow...but that's about the only thing that has. Her daughter has a new mom, and the tribe that was menacing them in the past has apparently turned a corner and wants to work with her somehow, but Maeve is not interested. I wish she would listen! I'm dying to know what this is all about. Thank you so much for listening, and I will see you soon with a new episode!…
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Please check out our sponsor for this episode, Day 11 Podcast! You can find them at www.day11podcast.com or on whatever podcatcher you use. They're going to be starting coverage of 13 Reasons Why soon, as well as House Of Card in honor of election season! Before everyone starts emailing me with explanations, I did look up the meaning of this title once it was time to edit the episode. Akane is the madame's name, but also mean "red", and no Mai is "of dance", so it essentially means "Red Dance Of Akane" which seems quite appropriate. I've also seen some translations of it that include a meaning about a lost child, but those seem to be American translations that have been debunked by native Japanese speakers, so I'm going to ignore those. This episode was a lot of fun and very strange and surreal at times. I'm really hoping that they manage to come up with a convincing explanation of Maeve's sudden newfound abilities, because that was the main thing I took issue with. I'm also a little confused about the nature of the glitches that interfere with language, and I'm hoping we find out why things are going so differently with non-English-speaking hosts. But overall I enjoyed getting to see Shogun World and the parallels to storylines and characters in WestWorld. Then there's the whole thing with Dolores and Teddy, which I think most of us probably saw coming. I wish I cared about Teddy more, but the fact is that I only really care about him in relation to other characters, and not as much for his own sake. I'm very curious what Dolores is going to do to him, and I am not looking forward to seeing him start to break. Thanks so much for listening, everyone, and we will see you soon with a new episode!…
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1 WestWorld, S02E04-The Riddle Of The Sphinx 1:54:50
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RoShawn and I are back to discuss one of the creepiest episodes of WestWorld yet. Owen wanted to put something cheerful on after watching this episode because it was so "spooky" as he put it. Not quite the word I would use, but still. I'm really into this season, even though there have been a few things here and there that I'm not totally sold on yet. I'm willing to bide my time and hope that they wind up making sense in the end, and if they don't...well, hopefully I will have forgotten about them already. This episode deals with the whole secret project that William was working on, which I shall dub Project Godhood. He's trying to get James Delos to make the switch from human being to robot, and it seems initially like he's doing a great job. The James we see is a fit-seeming man with energy and sharpness just like when he was alive. But it doesn't take long for the cracks to start showing, and 20 years later they seem no closer to an answer. Meanwhile, turns out that Elsie is still alive! And she's able to move on and accept that Bernard is a host with a practicality that I have to admire. I'm super curious about this sub-plot though, and I want to know how Clementine knew where Elsie was being kept, etc. Lots of questions, still! Thanks for listening, and see you soon with episode 5!…
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