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"The Crow" (1994) Episode #2 | Joy Division, Nine Inch Nails, James O'Barr

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This episode is dense and detailed as all hell. I say that every few months about a new episode, it's true. But this really ranks up there with my Janis Joplin, Chris Cornell, AC/DC and Doors episodes in the amount of research (see the many references below) and interstitial music edits involved. So thank you in advance for your indulgence. This one covers:

  • An expanded history of James O'Barr's journey from the USMC to optioning The Crow for a development deal
  • Joy Division's early gigs, record deals, recording experiences, and Ian Curtis's death
  • Trent Reznor's trials putting together the "Pretty Hate Machine" era Nine Inch Nails lineup, touring as an opening act, 1990s ascension as the eternal outsider, generally underreported backstage raucousness and the eventual shift into "Downward Spiral"
  • The many steps between "The Crow" as a comic book released independently out of Detroit to nationwide distribution to screenplay revisions to script revisions and securing a serious-ass movie deal for real. Featuring accounts of Jeff Most and John Shirley who made it happen
  • Clashes and controversies behind the scenes between writers, producers and director of the film, extending all the way to what DVD features we've still been denied due to legal squabbling that took place even years after the film's release

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https://www.rainn.org/resources

https://www.filmstories.co.uk/features/the-crow-chronicle-the-dvd-extra-feature-that-got-pulled-late-in-the-day/

https://sewermutant.com/the-crow-creator-james-obarr-s-early-years-2b0b6e0ee8d3

https://archive.org/details/Mondo.2000.Issue.05.1991/page/n65/mode/2up?q=Reznor

https://archive.org/details/electroshock00greg/page/38/mode/2up?q=Reznor interview 1994

Deborah Curtis's book: https://archive.org/details/touchingfromdist00debo/page/134/mode/2up

BROKEN: https://archive.org/details/NineInchNails-Broken/Nine+Inch+Nails+-+Broken.mkv

Bootleg library: https://archive.org/details/NIN_starterpack

Crow book: https://archive.org/details/makingofcrow0000bais + Official Making of The Crow book

https://archive.org/details/synthgods0000unse/page/106/mode/2up?q=Reznor

Self Destruct Book: https://archive.org/details/nineinchnailssel00huxl/page/n5/mode/2up?q=Reznor

SPIN MAGS:

https://books.google.com/books?id=td2yO_T3DPEC&printsec=frontcover&rview=1&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=xbtTqjWx8FsC&pg=PA70&dq=Trent+Reznor&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijvPyPqJ39AhVYFjQIHZ19AgUQ6AF6BAgEEAI#v=onepage&q=Trent%20Reznor&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=3_7wN22l43MC&pg=PT44&dq=Trent+Reznor&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwicodapqJ39AhXTLH0KHS9xABY4FBDoAXoECAsQAg#v=onepage&q=Trent%20Reznor&f=false

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New monthly bonus feed here! https://www.patreon.com/rockfilmrock

This episode is dense and detailed as all hell. I say that every few months about a new episode, it's true. But this really ranks up there with my Janis Joplin, Chris Cornell, AC/DC and Doors episodes in the amount of research (see the many references below) and interstitial music edits involved. So thank you in advance for your indulgence. This one covers:

  • An expanded history of James O'Barr's journey from the USMC to optioning The Crow for a development deal
  • Joy Division's early gigs, record deals, recording experiences, and Ian Curtis's death
  • Trent Reznor's trials putting together the "Pretty Hate Machine" era Nine Inch Nails lineup, touring as an opening act, 1990s ascension as the eternal outsider, generally underreported backstage raucousness and the eventual shift into "Downward Spiral"
  • The many steps between "The Crow" as a comic book released independently out of Detroit to nationwide distribution to screenplay revisions to script revisions and securing a serious-ass movie deal for real. Featuring accounts of Jeff Most and John Shirley who made it happen
  • Clashes and controversies behind the scenes between writers, producers and director of the film, extending all the way to what DVD features we've still been denied due to legal squabbling that took place even years after the film's release

PayPal tips: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/whatsamatta

Shirt designs with defeatist messaging delivered via bright colors and childish graphics:

https://www.bonfire.com/store/justtheworstshirtsever/

Subscribe to me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV4Up7xGgjioEC07bjwu4mQ

Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RockFilmRock

Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justtheworstever/

Send me an email with show suggestions: Justtheworstever@gmail.com

Suicide Prevention, Text/Call: 988

https://afsp.org/

National Sexual Assault Hotline

1-800-656-4673

https://www.rainn.org/resources

https://www.filmstories.co.uk/features/the-crow-chronicle-the-dvd-extra-feature-that-got-pulled-late-in-the-day/

https://sewermutant.com/the-crow-creator-james-obarr-s-early-years-2b0b6e0ee8d3

https://archive.org/details/Mondo.2000.Issue.05.1991/page/n65/mode/2up?q=Reznor

https://archive.org/details/electroshock00greg/page/38/mode/2up?q=Reznor interview 1994

Deborah Curtis's book: https://archive.org/details/touchingfromdist00debo/page/134/mode/2up

BROKEN: https://archive.org/details/NineInchNails-Broken/Nine+Inch+Nails+-+Broken.mkv

Bootleg library: https://archive.org/details/NIN_starterpack

Crow book: https://archive.org/details/makingofcrow0000bais + Official Making of The Crow book

https://archive.org/details/synthgods0000unse/page/106/mode/2up?q=Reznor

Self Destruct Book: https://archive.org/details/nineinchnailssel00huxl/page/n5/mode/2up?q=Reznor

SPIN MAGS:

https://books.google.com/books?id=td2yO_T3DPEC&printsec=frontcover&rview=1&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=xbtTqjWx8FsC&pg=PA70&dq=Trent+Reznor&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijvPyPqJ39AhVYFjQIHZ19AgUQ6AF6BAgEEAI#v=onepage&q=Trent%20Reznor&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=3_7wN22l43MC&pg=PT44&dq=Trent+Reznor&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwicodapqJ39AhXTLH0KHS9xABY4FBDoAXoECAsQAg#v=onepage&q=Trent%20Reznor&f=false

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