3.19: I Slept with Someone in Fall Out Boy and All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me

Always and Forever | A One Tree Hill Podcast

Since this is our episode on One Tree Hill S3E19, I Slept with Someone in Fall Out Boy and All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me, let’s write these show notes in the style of Fall Out Boy song titles. Here we go. This is the one where Hot Uncle Cooper (Michael Trucco) and his biceps return to Tree Hill and so does his sister Deb (Barbara Alyn Woods) and it’s super interesting for both of them because Cooper is apparently dating a 26-year-old model who is house-sitting for her parents but it’s actually the 17-year-old high school student Rachel (Danneel Ackles) which also seemingly drives a wedge between her and Mouth (Lee Norris) who has romantic feelings for her and is defending her against Brooke’s (Sophia Bush) very problematic fat-shaming campaign and also this is interesting for Deb because she comes back only to be freezed out by her girlfriend Karen (Moira Kelly) who is still mad that Deb started the fire which caused Lucas (Chad Michael Murray) to try to save Dan (Paul Johannson) but all is well because Whitey (Barry Corbin) gives her a much-needed pep talk, which helps her better support Lucas after he tells her about his HCM oh and while all of this is happening, Nathan (James Lafferty) and Haley (Bethany Joy Lenz) have to take a test to prove their love for each other for some reason in a random and unnecessary plot point and Peyton (Hilarie Burton Morgan) decides to visit Pete Wentz but in a somewhat shocking twist, she ends up visiting Jake Jaglieski (Bryan Greenberg) and omg it’s so romantic.

Does anyone even read these show notes? Because that was pretty good content. Anyway, our chat on this episode includes:

• The connection to the Fall Out Boy song the episode is named after
• Kaitlyn’s Lit Crit for the episode’s opening George Eliot quote, “There is no despair so absolute as that which comes with the first moments of our first great sorrow, when we have not yet known what it is to have suffered and healed, to have despaired and recovered hope.”
• Rachel’s issues with self-esteem, Brooke’s revenge plot not equaling the crime, and the episode’s weird overall stance on plastic surgery and beauty
• The show’s creator as a stand-in for Mouth and how we reconcile our feelings about Mouth’s character arc through “death of the author”
• Referring to characters as unattractive in a script and whether that can be offensive to the real-life actor playing that character
• Michael Trucco’s body…of work
• Cooper’s character arc and how it influences Lucas
• The return of DebRoe
• How this episode may be one of the only episodes of One Tree Hill to address race issues…and it’s not the best
• Peyton’s romance with Pete from Fall Out Shelter
• The epic CODA to Gavin DeGraw’s “We Belong Together”

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