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Today we have a bonus episode from a conversation I had with fellow Parthenon podcast network member Josh Cohen. Josh in the host of the Eyewitness History podcast. In this episode, we discuss some of the interesting aspects of Quinten Tarantino’s first foray in the historical fiction genre in his alternative World War 2 film, Inglorious Basterds. If you join up on Patreon, you will get more exclusive bonus content like this. I hope you enjoy and definitely subscribe so you can get all the new full episodes.
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[00:00:00] did they say in the film one that's approximately takes place. That first scene they say happens in 1941 where, uh, we'll meet him. Eventually. Hons Londa played by the wonderful Christoph waltz that was in 1941. Shoshana, the one of the lead characters, she looks young there, but I don't think they say how much time passed between when that scene happens.
And then rains puts together the Inglorious bastards. Do they say it? Not, not as I recall, maybe our viewers can, can fact check the two of us on this, but I, I believe it's generally presumed that at least a few years past, because Shoshana goes from being. Effectively a, a refugee, a Jew, a Jewish person on, on the, on the lamb, um, to becoming, uh, an owner of a [00:01:00] theater.
Um, and the way she gets us theater is somewhat mysterious. She says that it, uh, it was left to her by her on and her uncle, but it must be remembered that she's giving this as a story to, um, uh, Fredericks. Uh, a German, a German officer, in fact, in a war hero, which I'm sure we'll, we'll get into. Um, and so it's, it's tough to tell how much of that should really be believed.
And it must have been presumably before the D-Day invasion in 1944, because Francis fell occupied by the Germans. So at some time in between 1941 and 19, mid, 1944, Right. That was where I placed it. That, that was the one thing I knew since it was still occupied. France was that, uh, that was that it was before D-Day.
So it hadn't been before any real, true blue, serious involvement by the, by, by, uh, us Americans. I'll take a moment to just even reel it back further to what did you think [00:02:00] that very first scene was powerful where Londa, like you say, that Londa is. As polite. And as somebody, I don't know where I saw this or read this, but it said even the devil can have an angelic glow or something like that.
But so even somebody who's completely evil to the core can appear to be good. And on every, you know, how polite he was and how he, what his real point there is to find the Jews who have escaped. No, it was that there, that the farmer is holding or it's hiding Jews. And as farm stad, he knows it. The farmer knows.
He knows that, and Londa is just going to keep giving them enough rope to hang himself with it. And he finally gives, uh, the farmer, the choice either we're going to kill your whole family and we're still going to kill them. And to just to put [00:03:00] that, that choice on. Film as your first thing that you see is really gut wrenching.
Yeah. Not much to argue with there. Um, yeah. W I want to talk about that scene if we may, um, that opening scene was phenomenal, so I'm not even kidding. I remember seeing it in theaters. You will recall the first, like 10, 15 minutes of that movie are in French. I mean, it's on for a good little while before they speak a word of English.
And I'm not kidding. When I, when I first saw it in theaters, I thought they put the wrong reel of film into the projector. Well, because it was, so it just wasn't what you were expecting, you know? And, and you're right. Uh, hands-on that comes up, you know, is this the property of Mr. LA petite? It's a pleasure to meet you Michelle Appetit.
And he shakes his hand and, and, you know, may mean we, um, w may you please invite me in your house when you have a discussion? Uh, stringing them along and in this way, um, asks and excuse me, asks for milk, uh, which becomes a bit of a recurring theme, [00:04:00] uh, for, for, for Landa and, uh, A very interesting analogy, metaphor, whatever we want, whatever we want to call it between a squirrel and a rat and why you hate you find one repulsive and you don't know why and you like the other, and you don't know why when they both actually look fairly similar and he uses this analogy for why.
Might hate the Jews, which I thought was very interesting, uh, obviously, uh, for, for the, the goofballs out there, obviously I'm not agreeing with him. Um, but it was a very interesting turn-taking way of putting that across. And then at the very end. He just goes in for the kill and it's just a body blow. I mean, uh, you're sheltering the enemies of the state, or you're not, you're hiding them underneath the floorboards, aren't you?
And it just like just goes right there and the way the music comes in, uh, uh, uh, towards the end where he ushers in what they think. [00:05:00] Um, the Dreyfus is, uh, what the Dreyfus is think are the, um, the women, but they're actually the Nazi officers. It was. Um, and by the way, that's where we meet a manual menu as well.
Um, she's the one person that gets away from this, the slaughter, uh, and she, and she runs. Then we next see her as the owner of the, of the theater bond that lets her get away. Yes. He hunted, he, he sees her, he could have shot her or as sent out the, um, other guards or whatever. To go catch her and he doesn't.
Why doesn't he? Yeah, it's a very interesting choice. Um, he delights in the slaughter of his family of, excuse me. He delights in the slot of her family. Um, and yeah, she's running in an open field. She's in an open target. Uh, you got. Londa a soldier like him could have made that shot. Has him, has her literally in his sights, leaves the gun off and says Overwatch or Shanna.
Why doesn't he [00:06:00] pull that trigger? Um, I don't have an answer for that. Uh, other than, other than it's an appealed, his statistics. Because what will, because one thing about him is, uh, is I wonder if his sadism and his psychopathy overrules, everything else, um, uh, about his, his job, because his job surely would have been to kill her.
Yeah. But then he has the opportunity, a couple of opportunities to kill her and he keeps, or he could have called her out when they were meeting with, um, what's a gerbils and the cafe they could have, he could have called her out. There was another opportunity to, I almost wonder. If he somehow planned it, that she would take over the theater, she would be, he would somehow the movie would get changed from the big theater and Paris to the small one.
What if he was behind the whole [00:07:00] plot, knowing that the allies are going to win? 'cause that's what we see at the end. He makes the deal. He knows that the bastards could, he, it was his call essentially to set up forward the plan that winds up killing Hitler and girls and, um, oh, Boring and Gorman. Yeah.
He's the one who it was, he could have said yes or no at any point. And he's the one who got it actually done. I wonder if he was actually the driving force behind that whole plan. Now that's extremely interesting. Uh, cause yeah, I mean, uh, I I'll, I'll call Linda's words back to you. Um, he even says, you know, if I don't pick up this phone and, and alert the theater it's as if I'm causing Hitler's death, even more than yourselves and addressing, uh, uh, Brad Pitt as, as all-terrain and BJ Novak as the.
Uh, you'd have edge. Well, no, that's very interesting because yeah, I mean, he, granted he [00:08:00] gets carved up, uh, at the end, but he makes off pretty good. Um, he kind of makes out like abandoned the scar side. Um, that's very interesting. I wonder if he could have been the mastermind, but. Maybe, maybe he knew the on and the uncle, maybe that's