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Is the Pius XII Turkey Indult Real?
Manage episode 347796521 series 2792862
Short Answer? No.
"Follow-Up on the Thanksgiving Indult, by Sharon Kabel
GREGORY DIPIPPO
Our thanks once again to Sharon Kabel for sharing her research with NLM, this time following up on her November article on the day-after-Thanksgiving indult for eating meat.
In November of last year, I shared a provocative hypothesis: thanks to the discovery of new evidence, it was possible for the first time to confirm that the long-rumored American “Turkey Indult” directly from the Pope did in fact occur, although not quite the way we thought.
Participants in the “Turkey Indult” conversation generally fall into three camps:
● No, the Turkey Indult did not happen; it has been conflated with diocesan permissions for indults.
● Yes, Pope Pius XII did issue a Turkey Indult in 1958 that remained applicable beyond 1958.
● You’re still talking about this?
My position was a fourth way: The papally-issued Turkey Indult happened in 1958 only, and was likely issued by Pope St. John XXIII, not Pius XII. And yes, we are still talking about it, thank you. (For brevity’s sake, I will refer to the event in question as the Turkey Indult throughout the article.)"
https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2021/02/follow-up-on-thanksgiving-indult-by.html#.Y31VZprMKUk
"On the Mythical Pius XII Thanksgiving Indult: Guest Article by Sharon Kabel
GREGORY DIPIPPO
We are grateful once again to Sharon Kabel for sharing her research with us, this time on the so-called Thanksgiving indult ascribed to Pope Pius XII.
Every year around Thanksgiving, a flurry of social media posts make the rounds in traditional Catholic circles, concerning a mysterious “Turkey Indult” from the 1950s. They all follow the same essential pattern: an assertion that it is widely known that Pius XII granted an indult to Catholics in the United States to dispense them from the obligation to abstain from meat on the Friday after Thanksgiving."
https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2020/11/on-mythical-pius-xii-thanksgiving.html#.Y31VZprMKUk
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Manage episode 347796521 series 2792862
Short Answer? No.
"Follow-Up on the Thanksgiving Indult, by Sharon Kabel
GREGORY DIPIPPO
Our thanks once again to Sharon Kabel for sharing her research with NLM, this time following up on her November article on the day-after-Thanksgiving indult for eating meat.
In November of last year, I shared a provocative hypothesis: thanks to the discovery of new evidence, it was possible for the first time to confirm that the long-rumored American “Turkey Indult” directly from the Pope did in fact occur, although not quite the way we thought.
Participants in the “Turkey Indult” conversation generally fall into three camps:
● No, the Turkey Indult did not happen; it has been conflated with diocesan permissions for indults.
● Yes, Pope Pius XII did issue a Turkey Indult in 1958 that remained applicable beyond 1958.
● You’re still talking about this?
My position was a fourth way: The papally-issued Turkey Indult happened in 1958 only, and was likely issued by Pope St. John XXIII, not Pius XII. And yes, we are still talking about it, thank you. (For brevity’s sake, I will refer to the event in question as the Turkey Indult throughout the article.)"
https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2021/02/follow-up-on-thanksgiving-indult-by.html#.Y31VZprMKUk
"On the Mythical Pius XII Thanksgiving Indult: Guest Article by Sharon Kabel
GREGORY DIPIPPO
We are grateful once again to Sharon Kabel for sharing her research with us, this time on the so-called Thanksgiving indult ascribed to Pope Pius XII.
Every year around Thanksgiving, a flurry of social media posts make the rounds in traditional Catholic circles, concerning a mysterious “Turkey Indult” from the 1950s. They all follow the same essential pattern: an assertion that it is widely known that Pius XII granted an indult to Catholics in the United States to dispense them from the obligation to abstain from meat on the Friday after Thanksgiving."
https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2020/11/on-mythical-pius-xii-thanksgiving.html#.Y31VZprMKUk
Contact Me:
Email: FonsecaProduction@gmail.com
Website: http://catholicconversations.buzzsprout.com
IG: @ffonze
Facebook: Adrian Fonseca
Facebook: Catholic Conversations
Twitter: @AdrianFonze
YouTube: Catholic Conversations
YouTube: Adrian Fonseca
Enjoy the content, wanna support? https://www.buymeacoffee.com/adrianfonseca
Adrian Social Media
IG: @ffonze
Twitter: @AdrianFonze
Facebook: Adrian Fonseca
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