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Hopeful Response to John Stossel on Abortion
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John Stossel on abortionFor the past 50 years, the abortion debate has been a polarized issue with common ground on either side. This polarization has created a perfect storm that suggests a deeply divided country.
A single data point gets twisted by both sides. 61% of Americans believe 1st trimester abortion (up to 13 weeks) should be legal. The pro-choice side twists this to say, "most Americans are support abortion rights." The pro-life side twists the same data point to say, "most Americans support restrictions on abortion."
I don't see it this way. I think most Americans exist in a gray middle. They're the ones who say, "I'm pro-choice, but …" or I'm pro-life, but …". Most Americans intuitively recognize abortion is wrapped up in tangential issues. So, abortion is a concession, not an ideal, in the mind of most. Failure to imagine a life-affirming alternative to the status quo leads to this concession.
I was recently invited to be a guest on John Stossel's show to discuss abortion, and was joined by Avens O'Brien; a pro-choice libertarian of feminists for liberty.
I have a great deal of respect for John Stossel and what he does. And I appreciate the opportunity to be featured on his show and alongside O'brien.
However, I think Stossel missed an opportunity. I hold that libertarianism is a true alternative to the polarized paradigm we've been stuck in.
In this episode, I sat down with Doug Stuart of the Libertarian Christian Institute to discuss some important elements of the interview with Stossel that didn't make it into the final edit.
Join me, Kerry Baldwin, as we Dare to Think about libertarianism changes the abortion debate.
Main Points of Discussion01:52 Background to John Stossel episode
07:02 John Stossel on Abortion in full
12:42 Opening commentary
14:03 Where do we agree?
15:09 The problem of enforcement and drug bans
16:51 A person exists inside another person
19:02 My hope and the missed opportunity
22:34 Avens O'Brien's nuances
24:15 Initial reactions to Dobbs v Jackson
28:41 Why even Christian women are worried about the overturn of Roe v Wade
31:08 Militant anti-abortion abolitionists are supporting Joe Biden's failed criminal justice legacy
32:16 Women justified in the felt threat from the state
34:01 Pro-lifers "work not done yet" - what does this mean?
35:27 What I'd like to see libertarians do moving forward
Resource LinksOriginal episode of John Stossel on Abortion
Avens O'Brien, Feminists for Liberty
Libertarian Party Removes Abortion Plank from Platform
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https://mereliberty.com/membership?utm_source=show+notes&utm_medium=link&utm_id=DTT
46 episodes
Manage episode 335807177 series 2123945
TIP JAR: https://donate.stripe.com/aEUdUE5YodhZgkUeUV
John Stossel on abortionFor the past 50 years, the abortion debate has been a polarized issue with common ground on either side. This polarization has created a perfect storm that suggests a deeply divided country.
A single data point gets twisted by both sides. 61% of Americans believe 1st trimester abortion (up to 13 weeks) should be legal. The pro-choice side twists this to say, "most Americans are support abortion rights." The pro-life side twists the same data point to say, "most Americans support restrictions on abortion."
I don't see it this way. I think most Americans exist in a gray middle. They're the ones who say, "I'm pro-choice, but …" or I'm pro-life, but …". Most Americans intuitively recognize abortion is wrapped up in tangential issues. So, abortion is a concession, not an ideal, in the mind of most. Failure to imagine a life-affirming alternative to the status quo leads to this concession.
I was recently invited to be a guest on John Stossel's show to discuss abortion, and was joined by Avens O'Brien; a pro-choice libertarian of feminists for liberty.
I have a great deal of respect for John Stossel and what he does. And I appreciate the opportunity to be featured on his show and alongside O'brien.
However, I think Stossel missed an opportunity. I hold that libertarianism is a true alternative to the polarized paradigm we've been stuck in.
In this episode, I sat down with Doug Stuart of the Libertarian Christian Institute to discuss some important elements of the interview with Stossel that didn't make it into the final edit.
Join me, Kerry Baldwin, as we Dare to Think about libertarianism changes the abortion debate.
Main Points of Discussion01:52 Background to John Stossel episode
07:02 John Stossel on Abortion in full
12:42 Opening commentary
14:03 Where do we agree?
15:09 The problem of enforcement and drug bans
16:51 A person exists inside another person
19:02 My hope and the missed opportunity
22:34 Avens O'Brien's nuances
24:15 Initial reactions to Dobbs v Jackson
28:41 Why even Christian women are worried about the overturn of Roe v Wade
31:08 Militant anti-abortion abolitionists are supporting Joe Biden's failed criminal justice legacy
32:16 Women justified in the felt threat from the state
34:01 Pro-lifers "work not done yet" - what does this mean?
35:27 What I'd like to see libertarians do moving forward
Resource LinksOriginal episode of John Stossel on Abortion
Avens O'Brien, Feminists for Liberty
Libertarian Party Removes Abortion Plank from Platform
Become a Monthly Member
https://mereliberty.com/membership?utm_source=show+notes&utm_medium=link&utm_id=DTT
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