Transforming Law Enforcement: Integral Policing Roundtable

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It’s the very first episode of The Big Pitch with Jimmy Carr and our first guest is Phil Wang! And Phil’s subgenre is…This Place is Evil. We’re talking psychological torture, we’re talking gory death scenes, we’re talking Lorraine Kelly?! The Big Pitch with Jimmy Carr is a brand new comedy podcast where each week a different celebrity guest pitches an idea for a film based on one of the SUPER niche sub-genres on Netflix. From ‘Steamy Crime Movies from the 1970s’ to ‘Australian Dysfunctional Family Comedies Starring A Strong Female Lead’, our celebrity guests will pitch their wacky plot, their dream cast, the marketing stunts, and everything in between. By the end of every episode, Jimmy Carr, Comedian by night / “Netflix Executive” by day, will decide whether the pitch is greenlit or condemned to development hell! Listen on all podcast platforms and watch on the Netflix Is A Joke YouTube Channel . The Big Pitch is a co-production by Netflix and BBC Studios Audio. Jimmy Carr is an award-winning stand-up comedian and writer, touring his brand-new show JIMMY CARR: LAUGHS FUNNY throughout the USA from May to November this year, as well as across the UK and Europe, before hitting Australia and New Zealand in early 2026. All info and tickets for the tour are available at JIMMYCARR.COM Production Coordinator: Becky Carewe-Jeffries Production Manager: Mabel Finnegan-Wright Editor: Stuart Reid Producer: Pete Strauss Executive Producer: Richard Morris Executive Producers for Netflix: Kathryn Huyghue, Erica Brady, and David Markowitz Set Design: Helen Coyston Studios: Tower Bridge Studios Make Up: Samantha Coughlan Cameras: Daniel Spencer Sound: Charlie Emery Branding: Tim Lane Photography: James Hole…

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Modern law enforcement faces complex and evolving challenges that demand innovative solutions. High-profile incidents, such as the deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Eric Garner, have intensified public scrutiny, leading to significant swings in perception and policy. To navigate this turbulent environment, integrative frameworks offer the most promising path forward. By addressing deep-rooted issues and promoting sustainable change, these frameworks provide the necessary tools for transformative progress in policing. In this wide-ranging roundtable discussion, the Institute of Applied Metatheory’s Josh Leonard hosts three leading experts in the field of integral policing to explore how applying big-picture, integrative frameworks could help address the complex challenges facing modern law enforcement. The three panelists for this conversation are Chris Orrey, a retired police lieutenant from California, Gestur Palmason, a former police officer from Iceland, and Ryan Johansen, the current Chief of Police for San Bruno, California. Together, they explore the current landscape of policing from a big-picture perspective and demonstrate the potential for integral metatheory to drive transformative change in one of the most critical and challenging issue areas of our time. The discussion delves into the powerful pendulum swings in public perception and policy that often follow high-profile incidents like the murder of George Floyd in 2020, and how an integral approach could help transcend these reactive cycles through a dialectical integration of opposing social pressures. Key leverage points for transformation that emerge from the conversation include: 1. Training police leadership in the Integral Four Quadrants model as a powerful sense-making tool for navigating complexity 2. Emphasizing officer wellness and resilience programs to support the healthy interior development of individual officers 3. Rethinking police metrics and KPIs to more holistically assess the success and health of police departments across all four quadrants 4. Fostering a culture of ongoing learning and development that empowers officers to adapt and grow with the increasing complexity of their roles While the path to a more integral future for policing is far from clear, the remarkable results and breakthroughs shared by Chief Johansen offer an inspiring glimpse of what's possible when these big-picture integrative frameworks are put into practice with tact and vision. The roundtable also reflects on the critical role of developmental leadership in shepherding this transformation. As more mature leaders begin to recognize the power and potential of integrative frameworks to help them better navigate the complexities of modern policing, we could be on the cusp of an exciting new wave of innovation and evolution in the field. Join us for this thought-provoking and timely discussion as we explore how integrative metatheory could hold the key to ushering in a new era of policing — one that fosters greater trust, effectiveness, and resilience for officers and communities alike.

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Becoming Whole in a Divided World 1:21:09

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In today's deeply divided world—marked by polarized politics, global tensions, and fractured communities—is the aspiration for "wholeness" realistic or even desirable? In this thought-provoking episode of Integral Edge, Keith Martin-Smith sits down with executive coach and consciousness explorer David Arrell to explore what it truly means to become whole, both personally and collectively, amid ongoing division and conflict. The conversation begins by acknowledging an uncomfortable truth: human beings have always "othered" one another, creating deep divisions over seemingly trivial differences—illustrated vividly through the satirical example of Jonathan Swift’s kingdoms warring over how to crack an egg. Yet, as Keith and David unravel this tendency, they uncover a profound evolutionary logic behind our innate impulse to distrust and exclude "others" outside our tribe. From early hunter-gatherer societies protecting themselves from existential threats to vast empires maintaining cohesion through myths and collective identities, "othering" is a deeply ingrained survival strategy. But does this mean we're doomed to division forever? David introduces the concept of "fictive kinship," where humans form collective bonds through shared stories, myths, and identities, enabling large-scale cooperation across cultures and history. However, as our conversation shifts into a developmental perspective, the limitations and dangers of this instinctual "othering" become clear, especially when we regress into lower stages of consciousness during times of intense polarization. Drawing upon Integral Theory and the developmental frameworks of Robert Kegan and Terri O’Fallon, Keith and David discuss how the same moral teachings—like the Golden Rule—can be interpreted very differently depending on one's developmental stage. At a rule-based, "Amber" stage, the injunction to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" often devolves into revenge-driven cycles. Yet at a more rational, individualistic "Orange" stage, it fosters genuine reciprocity and empathy. The crucial insight here is understanding how easily individuals at higher stages can regress, or "shadow crash," into these simpler and more combative perspectives when emotionally triggered—particularly visible in political polarization around figures like Donald Trump. Join Keith Martin-Smith and David Arrell in this timely and deeply reflective conversation as they offer practical wisdom, inspiring perspectives, and genuine hope for navigating—and ultimately transcending—the divisions that mark our contemporary moment.…

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The Cycles of Time: Mapping Evolution at the Edge of History 1:17:34

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In this illuminating conversation, Keith Martin-Smith is joined by Terri O’Fallon—co-founder of STAGES International and one of the most insightful developmental theorists alive today—to explore the hidden cycles shaping both personal growth and global history. As the world faces a convergence of meta-crises—from late-stage capitalism to climate collapse and runaway technology—Terri reveals how these upheavals mirror a deeper, evolutionary recursion within human consciousness itself. Together, they trace the arc from timelessness (at birth) to the construction of linear and relative time, culminating in the boundless timelessness required at higher developmental stages. Alongside this journey, they chart the rapid acceleration of cultural evolution—from 50,000-year transitions to changes now unfolding within decades—and discuss the critical role of shadow, leadership, parenting, narcissism, and spiritual practice in navigating this evolutionary quickening. Is capitalism the end of the story, or just another stage? Can AI ever touch the depths of timeless awareness? And what kind of leaders are needed to shepherd us into a post-crisis future? This wide-ranging dialogue blends rigor and heart, offering both a sobering look at our civilizational crossroads and a grounded faith in our capacity to grow through it. PERSPECTIVE SHIFT: - Time isn’t just measured; it’s grown into. Time isn’t a fixed backdrop. It’s a developmental achievement. Infants begin in timelessness, then construct cyclical time (day/night), linear time (goals/futures), and eventually relative time (Einsteinian). Ultimately, advanced stages re-integrate timelessness — not by regressing, but by transcending and including earlier temporal modes. - Civilizational collapse isn’t random; it’s cyclical, and developmental. History isn’t a chaotic series of events. It’s patterned. Generational “blowups” (wars, revolutions, meta-crises) happen in ~100-year cycles and correspond to developmental limits in cultural structures (e.g., when capitalism outgrows its third-person frame). - We’re not just evolving — we’re accelerating. It once took 50,000 years to move from archaic to magic. Now, new developmental stages are emerging in decades. This compression disrupts traditional generational analysis and creates a world where vastly different levels coexist simultaneously. - You can be advanced and still dangerous. Late-stage development doesn’t automatically mean healthier behavior. A person can be construct-aware (5.0+) and still deeply narcissistic if early-stage wounds weren’t healed. Shadow travels up the spiral unless integrated.…

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Why Philanthropy Is the Most Powerful Lever for Systemic Change 1:04:23

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What if the future of civilization rests in the hands of those who know how — and where — to give? In this visionary episode of IAM Insider, Josh Leonard joins Robb Smith to unveil his new developmental map of philanthropy, created using the Context AI platform (now available to all core members of Integal Life). Together they explore how philanthropic institutions — uniquely positioned between government, business, and civil society — have the potential to become the most powerful levers for long-term systems transformation. Josh introduces the concept of integrative philanthropy, the emerging next stage in the evolution of giving, which transcends both the technocratic rigor of strategic philanthropy and the equity-driven activism of empowerment philanthropy. He walks us through a multilayered quadrant map that reveals how each aspect of the philanthropic ecosystem — from leadership vision to funding models to cultural values — is evolving across developmental stages, and where the pain points are that signal readiness for transformation. As global systems teeter under the weight of the metacrisis, Robb and Josh argue that philanthropy is perhaps the only institution in society with the freedom, foresight, and capital to steward truly long-range change. But it requires a new level of strategic intelligence, developmental awareness, and epistemic humility — all of which are built into the integrative approach. Whether you're a funder, nonprofit leader, systems thinker, or cultural futurist, this episode offers an urgent call to action — and a profoundly hopeful map for how we might evolve the way we support what matters most.…

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How Can DEI Survive? (And Should It?) 1:11:41

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In this wide-ranging, courageous, and deeply developmental exploration, Keith Martin-Smith tackles one of the most polarizing topics in contemporary culture: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Tracing the historical evolution of DEI from its civil rights roots to its present-day institutional complexity, Keith examines how good intentions have often been overtaken by ideological rigidity, performative rituals, and empirical blind spots. He breaks down the seven “deadly sins” of DEI — including its flattening of privilege, intolerance of dissent, and the shift from equal opportunity to enforced outcomes — while offering constructive, integral alternatives that retain the spirit of justice without sacrificing complexity, truth, or liberal values. Drawing on developmental theory, Keith shows how DEI emerged from postmodern sensibilities but now operates largely through early-rational "expert" systems that enforce conformity rather than foster inclusion. He offers a vision of what DEI could look like if grounded in empathy, complexity, and anti-fragility — not coercion. Whether you're a staunch supporter of DEI, a skeptical observer, or somewhere in between, this is a conversation designed to challenge, deepen, and hopefully transform your understanding of one of today’s most important and misunderstood social projects.…

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Terminal Crisis: The Economic World War Has Begun 1:29:31

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The global system is breaking — and it’s not the first time. In this gripping new episode of Big Picture Mind, Robb Smith unpacks what he calls a "Terminal Crisis"—a rare moment in history when the prevailing financial hegemon (today, the United States) loses its grip on a system that is demanding reconfiguration. It’s the fourth such rupture in 700 years, following the Genoese-Iberian empire (1627), the Dutch United Provinces (1781), and the British Empire (1931). And now, in 2025, it’s America’s turn. What happens next? We enter a period of global economic anarchy—a high-stakes reordering of capital, power, and institutions. Robb traces how the system always adapts, pushing forward into a new "cycle of accumulation" that includes: - wider geographic integration, - more complex economic coordination, - expanded populations and markets, and - institutional upgrades that solve for the contradictions of the previous cycle. In this urgent and far-reaching conversation, you'll learn: - Why the U.S.–China rivalry is about far more than trade; - How trade wars are also class wars; - Why the global trust in American soft power has collapsed; - What Keynes' abandoned proposal—the Bancor—has to do with Bitcoin and the next reserve currency; - What it will take to build a new integrative pluralism out of the ashes of today's disorder. Whether we descend into fractured blocs or step toward a new world order, one thing is clear: the system never loses — only hegemons do.…

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Polarization and the Algorithmic Undertow 1:34:21

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Bruce Alderman joins Josh Leonard to explore one of the most insidious forces driving today’s cultural fragmentation: the "algorithmic undertow". Drawing from his recent white paper, Bruce introduces this powerful metaphor to describe the slow, invisible pull of digital systems — algorithms, platforms, attention economies — that subtly yet profoundly shape our beliefs, behaviors, and social worlds. Using the lenses of Integral Metatheory and Critical Realism, Bruce and Josh unpack how algorithmically mediated environments are not only polarizing society, but also distorting our cognitive tools, creating isolated demirealities that feel whole but are structurally incomplete. Together they explore how these forces are eroding shared meaning, weakening democratic discourse, and transforming the very nature of human sense-making. But this is not just a diagnosis—it’s also a call to action. Bruce lays out a four-quadrant framework for reclaiming depth in the digital age, offering concrete steps we can take as individuals, communities, and systems to restore wisdom, presence, and shared reality. If you’ve ever felt like reality itself is fracturing—and you're looking for tools to reweave it—this conversation is essential.…

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The Shadow of Trump 1:28:47

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In this powerful and often provocative dialogue, psychotherapist and developmental theorist Kim Barta joins Keith Martin-Smith for a deep dive into the psychological and developmental dynamics surrounding one of the most polarizing figures of our time: Donald Trump. Drawing from decades of clinical experience and the STAGES developmental model, Kim outlines a rigorous three-part typology of shadow—projection, introjects, and split ego states—and shows how each of these can be activated in our political and cultural reactions. Whether you're vehemently opposed to Trump or a staunch supporter, this conversation invites you to pause, look inward, and ask: What part of this is my perception—and what part is my projection? Because whether you love him or hate him, Trump functions as a kind of shadow magnet—someone onto whom we unconsciously project either our darkest disowned traits or our most idealized hopes. His presence on the political stage acts like a psychological Rorschach test, provoking intense reactions that can often reveal more about our internal landscape than they do about the man himself. For those critical of Trump, Kim offers a challenging but compassionate perspective: if Trump “makes you crazy,” then you've already given away your power. Shadow work, he suggests, doesn't mean condoning harmful behavior—it means reclaiming the capacity to act from clarity rather than compulsion, from discernment rather than disturbance. And this matters—because if Trump truly is the existential threat many perceive him to be, then our resistance must come from grounded, skillful action rather than reactive turmoil. Otherwise, we risk undermining our own integrity, credibility, and capacity to influence meaningful change. For those who support Trump, Kim extends the same invitation to self-inquiry. Many on the right experience a profound sense of betrayal, cultural marginalization, or disempowerment — and that pain often fuels projection just as powerfully as it does on the left. The goal here isn’t to invalidate anyone’s concerns, but to help distinguish between authentic values and reactive identity defense. Because if you truly believe in the principles Trump represents to you — whether it’s populism, sovereignty, or freedom — then embodying those principles with clarity and compassion will always be more persuasive than lashing out from a place of grievance or fear. Which is why this is not a conversation about being "right" — it's a conversation about being whole.…

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A Grand Strategy for the Transformation Age 1:36:42

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In this powerful second installment of Big Picture Mind, Robb Smith presents a sweeping yet grounded vision for the future of the integrative worldview — one that meets the historic demands of our moment and invites each of us into a shared project of planetary coherence. We are living amidst a multi-system breakdown: geopolitical instability, techno-economic upheaval, ecological overshoot, a crisis of meaning, and the disintegration of shared epistemic ground. In the face of this metacrisis, Robb argues that a new era is dawning — the Transformation Age — and with it, the emergence of a post-postmodern, integrative worldview capable of offering wholeness, meaning, and emancipatory power. But this worldview, while rich in insight and spiritual depth, remains fragmented, fringe, and institutionally underdeveloped. In this episode, Robb outlines a bold grand strategy to help the integrative movement grow into its world-historical responsibility. Drawing on insights from sociology, systems theory, and metatheory, he offers a call to action: it's time for a stage-three reintegration — a shift from the pluralistic differentiation of the last decade to a more coherent and collaborative movement, organized through a network-based logic. You’ll hear Robb introduce: - The 7 strategic vectors of the integrative movement’s evolution — including storytelling, tool-building, attention economics, and network coherence - The need to shift from isolated genius and fragmented silos into a self-organizing worldview network - Why leadership is our scarcest resource — and what kinds of leadership we now require - A systems-level understanding of how civilizational reorganization occurs through worldview emergence - The beginnings of a global collaboration protocol designed to align the many “nodes” of the meta-movement into shared strategic action Joined by voices across the integrative landscape, this conversation moves beyond theory into praxis, exploring how integrative ideas can be translated into real-world transformation — in culture, politics, education, governance, and beyond. Whether you're a long-time integral practitioner, a nodal leader in the liminal web, or someone newly drawn to the integrative vision, this episode invites you into a conversation about how we might truly rise to meet the transformation age — together.…

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Integral Edge: Men, Meaning, and the Rise of the New Right 1:16:52

11 weeks ago1:16:52

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From cultural confusion to political shifts, men today are caught in the crossfire of conflicting expectations. Are they supposed to be strong and assertive or soft and sensitive? Should they embrace traditional masculinity or rewrite the script entirely? And why are so many turning to right wing politics for answers? In this provocative first episode of The Integral Edge, Keith Martin-Smith sits down with Jason Lange and Raymond Fismer to break down what’s really happening to men in the modern world. They explore why so many are feeling lost, how social, cultural, and economic changes have reshaped masculinity, and what a truly evolved man looks like in today’s world. 🔥 Are men being asked to hold an impossible polarity? 🔥 Is the rise of “strongman” leaders a reaction to cultural instability? 🔥 And what’s the real alternative to outdated masculinity? This isn’t just another surface-level discussion — this is an integral look at the deeper forces shaping modern manhood. Buckle up.…

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IAM Spotlight: The Cultural Complexity Index 1:50:36

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How do we measure the depth of human meaning-making across history, traditions, and intellectual paradigms? In this fascinating presentation, Brendan Graham Dempsey introduces his Cultural Complexity Index (CCI) initiative, a pioneering research project that empirically maps how humans structure knowledge, solve problems, and make sense of their world. Utilizing the Lectical Scale, a highly refined framework for measuring hierarchical complexity, the project analyzes sacred and significant texts from different historical periods. Its early findings suggest fascinating correlations between social complexity and the evolution of meaning-making, while also challenging some common assumptions about cognitive development in different historical eras. What do we mean by “culture”? While integral theory typically enacts “culture” as representing our collective interiors (LL), the CCI investigates a broader dimension — the complexity of symbolic information processing as a whole. Brendan’s use of the term aligns closely with Gregg Henriques’ description of “culture” as representing the human noosphere in general, the sphere of knowledge, symbolic representation, and individual sense-making, rather than the Lower-Left (LL) quadrant of Integral Theory, which focuses on relational, intersubjective, and cultural meaning-making. While the two are connected and often isomorphic with each other, they require distinct methodologies to be properly analyzed. This is important because, as Brendan points out, he is not making claims about a given culture’s overall developmental center of gravity, but rather on the cognitive performance of certain individuals within a culture, as measured by the Lectical Scale. Brendan’s presentation covers the theoretical foundations, core methodology, and preliminary results of the study — particularly its examination of texts from forager and archaic societies. In the ensuing discussion, participants explore crucial questions, such as: - The origins of the CCI framework and how it measures individual cognitive complexity, - How cognitive complexity relates to cultural evolution — and why they are not the same thing, - The shift from mythic narratives to rational-scientific models—and how each stage builds upon the last, - The hidden structures of meaning-making and how they shapes everything from politics to personal identity - How the CCI helps dispel myths about cultural development, such as challenging the notion that early societies were incapable of producing later-stage artifacts or ideas, and clarifying the sequential-but-nonlinear nature of human evolution For integral thinkers, the CCI aspires to provide both empirical validation and refinement of existing developmental models. While supporting key developmental insights, it also suggests nuanced updates to conventional correlations between social and cognitive complexity. Most importantly, the findings point toward practical applications — helping to frame new “stories of wholeness” that are adequate to the challenges of our time. This research represents a significant step in bringing empirical rigor to cultural evolution theories while refining and deepening our understanding. By applying careful measurement and analysis, it enhances our understanding of both our developmental past and the challenges of constructing more complex and integrative meaning systems for the future.…

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The Big Picture Mind: What Every Elite is Missing 1:50:45

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Welcome to the Transformation Age We are living in one of the most extraordinary moments in human history. The world is shifting beneath our feet — politically, economically, technologically, ecologically, and spiritually. This new era is characterized by rapid, self-reinforcing transformations across all aspects of life. Unlike previous historical shifts, change itself has become the dominant force, creating a world that is increasingly difficult to navigate with traditional ways of thinking. This is the mission of The Big Picture Mind — to cultivate a way of thinking that can navigate these vast changes, helping us make sense of complexity rather than being overwhelmed by it. Why Big Picture Thinking? Too often, our world is shaped by small ideologies masquerading as big pictures—fragmented views that fail to address the depth and interconnectedness of our crises. “Big picture” minds are those that can rise above these limitations, synthesizing knowledge across disciplines, paradigms, and perspectives. Robb introduces the idea that knowledge has evolved through four key stages: Disciplinary – Specialized fields of study (economics, psychology, physics, etc.). Interdisciplinary – The blending of fields to generate new insights (e.g., behavioral economics). Transdisciplinary – Actual big pictures in the 21st century, identifying patterns that connect across all knowledge. Arch-Disciplinary – An emerging, speculative level that distills the core onto-epistemic primitives of the universe common to all big pictures. To meet the demands of the Transformation Age, we must think more holographically, learning to see the interwoven nature of reality with greater clarity and wisdom. The Five Crises Defining Our Time Robb outlines five seismic shifts reshaping our world: Ecological Transformation We are transitioning from the Holocene to the Anthropocene, where human activity is the dominant force shaping the planet. Climate change, biodiversity loss, and ecological degradation are no longer distant threats—they are shaping our societies now. The Rise of Hyperreality Borrowing from philosopher Jean Baudrillard, Robb describes how we increasingly live in a world of symbols detached from reality—a world where a meme coin can represent political power, and narratives are engineered rather than discovered. This disconnect is creating a profound crisis of discernment. The Meaning Crisis Across the world, people are struggling with existential confusion, depression, and a loss of purpose. Without a credible story of wholeness, individuals feel unmoored, caught between outdated mythologies and an arid, reductionist modernism. The Technological Singularity AI is accelerating toward Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and beyond. If left unchecked, this could reify neo-feudal social structures, concentrating power among a small elite while diminishing social mobility. Governance systems are woefully unprepared for the scale of these disruptions. The Breakdown of Global Governance The world order that has existed since World War II—often referred to as Pax Americana—is fracturing. In its place, we see the return of realist imperialism, economic volatility, and social instability. Populism and reactionary authoritarianism are symptoms of this deeper structural unraveling. The Metacrisis and the Integral Response These crises do not exist in isolation — they form a “metacrisis”, an interlocking systemic breakdown of coherence at all levels of human life. This calls for a new kind of intelligence — one that is capable of integrating perspectives rather than getting lost in fragmentation.…

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A View From Somewhere: Embracing Embodied Perspectives to Navigate Complexity 14:26

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Watch the full 2-hour episode here: https://integrallife.com/a-view-from-somewhere-an-introduction-to-metatheory/ Mark and Bruce invite us to move beyond the illusion of an all-encompassing, detached perspective to embrace the richness of our situated, embodied viewpoints. By exploring humanity's innate capacity for storytelling — whether through ancient myths, indigenous traditions, or modern narratives — it highlights the collaborative power of shared meaning-making in navigating today’s complex global challenges. As we grapple with "hyperobjects" like climate change and cultural fragmentation, Mark and Bruce advocate for cultivating the skills to hold multiple perspectives, engage dialogically, and co-create integrative stories that can anchor our shared humanity while addressing the immense problems we face.…

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How the Drama Triangle Keeps You Stuck (and How to Break Free) 10:26

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Watch the full episode here: https://integrallife.com/breaking-the-cycle-drama-problem-solving-and-relational-mastery/ In this episode, Corey deVos and Dr. Keith Witt explore one of the most common yet misunderstood aspects of human interaction: the tension between drama and problem-solving. They dive deeply into the "Drama Triangle," a psychological framework that reveals how the roles of victim, rescuer, and persecutor trap us in cycles of dysfunction. These dynamics, while often personal, are also embedded in cultural systems, politics, and even therapy itself. Drawing from integral theory, Keith explains how drama is a signal of relational disconnection and unmet needs, while problem-solving is a path of self-awareness, connection, and growth. They discuss how therapy provides a transformative space by balancing unconditional acceptance with clear expectations for change, helping clients shift from reactive drama to creative problem-solving. Through rich examples—including Keith’s personal stories and reflections—they illuminate the emotional and relational signals that help us recognize when we’re stuck in drama and how to move beyond it. Key themes include: - The power of self-awareness to shift from reactive drama to empowered problem-solving. - How relational disconnection is often the first problem to solve in any relationship. - The interplay of cultural narratives, such as green postmodernism, in amplifying cycles of victimhood and blame. - Why integrating emotional connection (relating) with practical resolution (problem-solving) creates transformative relationships. - The role of emotional signals, such as urgency or secrecy, in identifying drama dynamics. Whether you’re navigating complex relationships, exploring personal growth, or grappling with cultural and systemic challenges, this episode offers practical insights and profound perspective shifts. Join Corey and Keith as they unpack the patterns that keep us stuck and the practices that help us grow.…

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SALT for Climate: Redefining Urgency and Transformation in Climate Leadership 1:15:25

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The Sensemaking, Action, and Leadership Training (SALT) for Climate initiative tackles a crucial blindspot in today’s climate response: the lack of conscious, integrative sensemaking as a foundation for meaningful action. SALT for Climate brings together cutting-edge psychosocial research, skilled facilitation in human dynamics, and transformative Big Picture metatheories to help climate leaders address the psychological and systemic gaps in existing political, economic, and scientific paradigms. Through specialized training and coaching, SALT enhances the emotional, social, and consciousness capacities of those leading climate efforts, bridging the divide between climate policies and public understanding—a gap that often stalls progress and drives polarization. This scalable approach complements the scientific and technical aspects of climate action, fostering greater public engagement and supporting more impactful, integrative climate leadership. In this episode of IAM Insider, host Josh Leonard sits down with Gail Hochachka and Lisa Gibson, leaders of the SALT for Climate initiative, to explore their pioneering approach to climate action. They discuss the often-overlooked psychological and social dimensions of climate work, share insights from their work on collective sensemaking and leadership training, and explain why a focus on human dynamics may be the missing piece in our response to the climate crisis. Listen in to discover how SALT for Climate is helping us rethink what effective climate action looks like.…

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What Is the Content/Structure Fallacy? 15:13

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Watch the full episode here: https://integrallife.com/the-content-structure-fallacy-the-common-mistake-most-integralists-make/ What is the Content/Structure Fallacy? The Content/Structure fallacy refers to the mistaken assumption that a person’s surface-level beliefs or statements (content) directly correspond to their deeper developmental stage (structure). In reality, just because someone expresses ideas that seem to align with a particular developmental level doesn’t mean they are themselves operating from that level. In other words, it’s not what we believe, but how we hold those beliefs that reflects our stage of development. For example, someone might champion pluralistic (Green) values but do so with the rigid, dogmatic mindset of an earlier Amber stage. This is common in certain ideological movements where progressive values are enforced in authoritarian or dogmatic ways — a clear case of later-stage content being interpreted and enacted through an earlier-stage lens. It’s similar to memorizing the solution to a calculus problem without knowing how to do the math that produces that solution in the first place. Conversely, just because someone identifies with a traditionally Amber affiliation like Christianity doesn’t mean they hold that faith in a purely Amber way. A person could practice Christianity through the reflective, self-authoring lens of Orange (modern) or even from an Integral (Teal or Turquoise) perspective, embodying a more complex and nuanced understanding of their faith. We often encounter stereotypes like “environmentalists must be Green” or “entrepreneurs must be Orange,” but these assumptions overlook the complexity of how individuals hold and express their values. It’s possible to advocate for environmental causes (typically associated with Green) from a highly rational, results-oriented (Orange) perspective, or even from a deeply principled and disciplined (Amber) perspective. Similarly, an entrepreneur might embrace meritocratic values (Orange) but approach their business with a more inclusive, systems-aware stance (Green or Teal), or perhaps use. As such, judging someone’s developmental depth based solely on their surface beliefs or affiliations is a mistake. Once the products of a given stage are socialized within a larger group, they can function more like a horizontal cultural typology than a vertical developmental structure. For example, postmodernism may have emerged from individuals at the Green stage, but as it became widely adopted across the larger culture, it was no longer exclusively populated by Green-stage individuals. Not everyone participating in postmodern culture operates from a Green stage of development. We can observe similar patterns in movements like DEI [link to Seven Sins of DEI] or even in the Integral movement [link to Integral Global]. Lastly, we must also examine our own developmental structures and how they influence our interpretation of others’ content. Our judgments about others might reveal more about our own developmental limitations and blind spots than theirs. If we are using stage theory in shallow or stereotypical ways, it may indicate that we ourselves may have a content-structure fallacy built into our own self-concept, as we repeat integral-sounding content while holding it in decidedly sub-integral ways.…

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Ready, Steady, Grow: The Art and Science of Vertical Development [PREVIEW] 18:48

45 weeks ago18:48

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In this insightful conversation, Corey DeVos and Beena Sharma explore the concept of vertical development and its importance in today's world. Beena, with over 30 years of experience in the field, shares her journey and evolving understanding of vertical development. The discussion covers several key areas: - The difference between horizontal and vertical development - Common challenges people face when growing into later stages of development - How vertical development can help address global challenges and metacrises - Practical advice and practices for fostering vertical development - The importance of polarity thinking in personal growth and understanding complex issues Beena emphasizes that vertical development is not a goal but an outcome of how we live and make sense of the world. She stresses the importance of integrating earlier stages of development and warns against complacency or self-congratulation at later stages. The conversation also touches on the application of vertical development to global issues, the role of AI in development, and the importance of having both power and perspective to effect change. Beena introduces her VEDA training programs, which offer in-depth exploration of vertical development for personal growth and professional application. The dialogue concludes with an invitation to the Integral community to engage with these programs and continue their developmental journey. To learn more about these training opportunities, click here: https://integrallife.com/veda-training Throughout the discussion, Beena and Corey highlight the transformative potential of understanding and applying vertical development principles in various aspects of life and society.…

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Radical Wholeness and the Five Paths of Transformation (Ken Wilber and Andrew Holecek) 2:04:17

47 weeks ago2:04:17

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In this fascinating and far-ranging discussion, Ken Wilber and Andrew Holecek explore the frontiers of integral theory and human consciousness. Ken shares some of the key insights from his latest book, "Finding Radical Wholeness," offering a novel and deeply insightful perspective on the nature of reality and human development. Listen as Ken and Andrew discuss Ken’s five-fold model of transformation: Waking Up: The traditional spiritual path of enlightenment or awakening, involving direct experiences of non-dual awareness or unity consciousness. This path is about recognizing our fundamental nature beyond the ego. Growing Up: Progressing through stages of psychological and cognitive development, from egocentric to ethnocentric to worldcentric and beyond. This path is about expanding our perspective and capacity for understanding complexity. Opening Up: Expanding our awareness and capacity across multiple intelligences or ways of perceiving and engaging with the world. This path is about actively cultivating different forms of intelligence, such as aesthetic (recognizing beauty), moral, emotional, and others, broadening our perception and deepening our engagement with life. Cleaning Up: Working through our psychological shadows and unconscious patterns, integrating repressed or denied aspects of ourselves for greater wholeness. By facing and embracing our hidden fears, traumas, and disowned parts, we free up energy and expand our capacity for authentic self-expression and relationship. Showing Up: Fully embodying our development in the world, actively engaging with life and manifesting our potential in practical ways. This path involves bringing our inner growth and insights into tangible expression, taking responsible action in our relationships, work, and communities, and living with authenticity and purpose in everyday life. Each of these five paths leads to a distinct form of wholeness that cannot be found through the other paths. The wholeness of Waking Up is not the same as the wholeness of Growing Up, and the wholeness achieved through Cleaning Up is different from that of Opening Up or Showing Up. These various types of wholeness complement each other, but are not reducible to one another, highlighting the importance of a comprehensive approach to human development and transformation. Ken and Andrew also discuss: * Wilber's latest thinking on these five types of wholeness, with particular emphasis on the often-overlooked "showing up" dimension. * A nuanced discussion of the pre/trans fallacy and its continued relevance in contemporary spiritual discourse, * The critical difference between “adual” and “nondual” experiences, * An expanded view of matter and consciousness, synthesizing panpsychism, autopoiesis, and integral metatheory, * Insights into the relationship between involution and evolution, and their moment-to-moment relevance in personal experience, * Wilber's thoughts on teleology in evolution, balancing fixed and playful aspects of developmental unfolding, * Practical strategies for embodying integral principles in personal practice and cultural engagement. Purchase Finding Radical Wholeness by Ken Wilber here: https://www.shambhala.com/finding-radical-wholeness.html This discussion was originally published on Andrew Holecek’s Edge of Mind podcast: https://edgeofmindpodcast.com/ken-wilber-in-an-insightful-discussion-on-integrating-spirituality-science-and-human-development/…

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How the Four Quadrants Can Help the World [PREVIEW] 11:49

48 weeks ago11:49

11:49

Keith Martin-Smith explores the potential and pitfalls of integral theory in addressing global challenges. He argues that while integral thinking offers valuable tools for understanding complex systems and human development, it often falls short in practice due to misapplication and ego-driven superiority complexes. Keith proposes a more nuanced approach: treating people as unique individuals, communicating integral ideas more skillfully, and focusing on practical applications rather than theoretical grandstanding. [line] At its best, Integral Theory is a powerful tool and map to help us to better understand ourselves and our world. The AQAL model – all quadrants, lines, levels, states, and types – has helped hundreds, perhaps thousands, better navigate the world with compassion and care, and wisdom and humility. At its worst, integral Theory can lead to what Keith Martin-Smith calls the “insufferable integralist,” or someone who uses the theory to look down on others they deem “less evolved” then they are. Or to create a cognitive tower from which to look down on the world, disembodied and unable to do much of anything but watch. This can create a cult-like “in-group” that can become obsessed with their own development and use the model as a cudgel on others. Today we face a polycrisis or metacrisis – existential-level problems in economics, technology, energy production and access, late-stage capitalism, increasing polarity in almost all Western democracies, and the fracturing of truth. For the first time, the existential challenges facing humankind are entirely created and sustain by us. More and more, we all live in our separate worlds, with our own beliefs, cultures, and good and bad guys. And the world burns, people suffer, and we divide against one another at a time we need to be coming together. Can Integral Theory, applied wisely, do good for the world, and for each of us? How do we hold the model lightly but wisely, and be careful about the traps it can create? Key concepts discussed in this talk will be polarities such as discernment versus judgement, modesty versus surety, compassion versus condemnation. If you’ve been curious how Integral might help you and the world, but leery of the ways it can seemingly misguide those who know it, this talk may be helpful for you.…

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2 years ago18:04