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# 18 - I Dub Thee, Wars
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This week we're sans Dr. Awesome as Michael and guest host JJ Webb talk with Sam Sawyer about the Kickstarter and Beta Release of the two-stick shooter, DUBWARS. We learn how stressful a fundraising campaign can be, and get a look at the inner workings of the independent studio MURA Interactive. Beans and pasta may work if the base is not burnt, otherwise there is a strong ashy taste. Donate to their Kickstarter and 'like' their Facebook page.
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