How Structures Affect Outcomes: Software Insights • Elisabeth Hendrickson & Charles Humble

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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.
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Elisabeth Hendrickson - Advisor, Coach, Speaker & Author of "Explore It!"
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant
RESOURCES
Elisabeth
https://twitter.com/testobsessed
https://ruby.social/@testobsessed
https://github.com/testobsessed
https://www.linkedin.com/in/testobsessed
https://curiousduck.io

Charles
https://twitter.com/charleshumble
https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble
https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble

Links
Better Testing Worse Quality
Managing the Proportions of Testing to Other Developers
https://youtu.be/wtmW89I941I
https://youtu.be/RRp_NwBmcXw
Henrik Kniberg
https://thinker.curiousduck.io
https://donellameadows.org

DESCRIPTION
From debunking testing ratios to exploring the impact of organizational structures on quality, the conversation between Charles Humble and Elisabeth Hendrickson offers actionable insights for engineering leaders. With candid reflections and practical strategies, this episode promises to inspire seasoned professionals and aspiring leaders alike, providing fresh perspectives to drive meaningful change within their teams and organizations.
To understand the future of software testing we need to understand its roots. Discover game-changing strategies for optimizing team alignment, quality assurance, and more!
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Elisabeth Hendrickson • Explore It!
Gerald M. Weinberg • An Introduction to General Systems Thinking
Gerald M. Weinberg • Becoming a Technical Leader
Donella H. Meadow • Thinking in Systems
Peter M. Senge • The Fifth Discipline

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Chapters

1. Intro (00:00:00)

2. Testing ratios (00:01:51)

3. How organizational structure affects outcomes (00:11:37)

4. Pivotal's organizational model (00:14:46)

5. Alignment with autonomous teams (00:20:35)

6. Challenges of layoffs & reorganizations (00:24:52)

7. Word count simulation (00:32:00)

8. Intuition vs reality (00:37:16)

9. Resources (00:41:58)

10. Outro (00:43:33)