The Current State of Software Engineering • Jez Humble & Holly Cummins

GOTO - Today, Tomorrow and the Future

This interview was recorded at GOTO Aarhus for GOTO Unscripted.
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Jez Humble - SRE at Google Cloud & Lecturer at UC Berkeley
Holly Cummins - Senior Principal Software Engineer on the Red Hat Quarkus Team
RESOURCES
dora.dev

Jez
continuousdelivery.com
github.com/jezhumble
linkedin.com/in/jez-humble
@jezhumble
sre.google/resources

Holly
hollycummins.com
hollycummins.com/type/blog
@holly_cummins
hachyderm.io/@holly_cummins
github.com/holly-cummins
linkedin.com/in/holly-k-cummins

DESCRIPTION
Holly Cummins and Jez Humble explore the delicate balance of communication in the tech industry. They dissect two contrasting trends – the need for increased communication and the burden of communication overhead. Jez highlights the importance of effectively managing limited communication bandwidth, emphasizing the need to focus on the right things and automate processes when possible. They delve into the significance of good platforms and touch on the persistence of the perennial issue of code formatting standards.
Despite the challenges, they remain optimistic about the potential for positive change and acknowledge the progress made through continuous integration.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble & Gene Kim • Accelerate
Kim, Humble, Debois, Willis & Forsgren • The DevOps Handbook
Jez Humble & David Farley • Continuous Delivery
Jez Humble, Joanne Molesky & Barry O'Reilly • Lean Enterprise
Holly Cummins & Timothy Ward • Enterprise OSGi in Action
Liz Rice • Container Security
Liz Rice • Kubernetes Security
Brendan Burns, Joe Beda & Kelsey Hightower • Kubernetes: Up and Running

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Chapters

1. Intro (00:00:00)

2. From Accelerate to SRE & beyond (00:01:42)

3. Keeping up with modern software engineering trends (00:05:55)

4. The social aspect of software engineering (00:10:53)

5. The difficulties of initiating change (00:14:27)

6. Balancing communication in tech (00:19:55)

7. Addressing the formatting issue (00:27:29)

8. The need for industry-wide standards (00:33:07)

9. Outro (00:35:08)