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Gun Lawyer Episode 191

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

firearm, new jersey, guns, carry, law, gun owner, gun ownership, gun, automatic shotgun, renewal, required, assault, permit, bayonet mount, requirement, semi, insurance, shotguns, put, criteria

SPEAKERS

Evan Nappen, Speaker 3

Evan Nappen 00:00
Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, you may have heard. It’s kind of like a thing that the anti-gunners and folks, particularly feminists, arguably radical feminist, like to push this a lot. They like to say that men who like guns, oh, they’re compensating for their small penises. Right? You’ve probably heard that BS out there before about that. Well, what’s really interesting is somebody’s group, an anti-gun group, believe it or not, decided to actually research that topic. Yes. They are going to decide and see if, you know, how do guns play out in terms of sexual satisfaction for gun owners? This is from an article by one of my favorite authors, who I’ve mentioned before, Dean Weingarten at AmmoLand. You should all subscribe to AmmoLand. It’s a free service, and they’ll send you the daily news feed.

Evan Nappen 01:49
This article is about that very research on those who own guns. (https://www.ammoland.com/2024/06/research-finds-men-who-own-guns-have-greater-sexual- satisfaction/#axzz8dtg6VuAi) What’s really interesting about this research is that it shows a significant correlation between the possession of guns and a man’s satisfaction with his sexual equipment. That’s right. That’s right. So, as the antis like to put out there this other opposite view, it’s really a fantasy and a falsehood that they’re putting out there about this situation. For example. Dean Weingarten in the article quotes the Huffington Post, right the HuffPost, which is a known left wing site. In the article from the HuffPost in 2016, “the compulsion to own firearms stems from an unconscious need to compensate for a deep-seated psychological sense of insecurity and inadequacy in terms of power: in males, specifically for having a small or smaller-than-desired penis.”

Evan Nappen 03:23
Well, guess what? Researchers decided to actually test this to see if this in fact is true. They decided

to investigate it. This research and all was funded by a group that wants to disarm the American population. It was financially supported by an organization called “Change the Ref”, whose “mission is shifting America’s social response to gun violence. . .”, there you go, “gun violence”, not criminal violence, of course. You know that same old BS, “gun violence”. “. . . by uniting creativity, activism, disruption, and education.” The researchers state that although “Change the Ref” has a clear anti-gun stance, it had no role in the planning or implementation of the study. And I gotta say, I guess that’s actually true. Because this study was published in the American Journal of Men’s Health.

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Evan Nappen 04:35
Guess what they found out, folks? Exactly the opposite, the opposite. They found that the more male gun owners were satisfied with their penis size, the more they were likely to own guns, to own more guns, and to own military-style rifles. That’s right. The more guns, particularly the more so-called assault firearms you own, the more satisfied you are with your penis size, sexuality, and sexual performance. Imagine that. Yep. And what’s interesting here is Mr. Weingarten quotes from the study, a nice little abstract here, in which the study said, “we formally examine the association between penis size dissatisfaction and gun ownership in America. The primary hypothesis, derived from the psychosexual theory of gun ownership, asserts that men who are more dissatisfied with the size of their penises will be more likely to personally own guns. To test this hypothesis, we used data collected from the 2023 Masculinity, Sexual Health, and Politics (MSHAP) survey, a national probability sample of 1,840 men, and regression analysis to model personal gun ownership as a function of penis size dissatisfaction, experiences with penis enlargement, social desirability, masculinity, body mass, mental health, and a range of sociodemographic characteristics.”

Evan Nappen 06:42
“We find that men who are more dissatisfied with the size of their penises are less likely to personally own guns across outcomes, including any gun ownership, military-style rifle ownership, and total number of guns owned. The inverse association between penis size dissatisfaction and gun ownership is linear; however, the association is weakest among men ages 60 and older. With these findings in mind, we failed to observe any differences in personal gun ownership between men who have and have not attempted penis enlargement. To our knowledge, this is the first study to formally examine the association between penis size and personal gun ownership in America. Our findings fail to support the psychosexual theory of gun ownership.” Imagine that! This garbage put out by the other side, the anti- Second Amendment crowd, to try to disparage men who own guns by saying that they have small manhood and are dissatisfied. And it’s just the opposite. As a matter of fact, the guys that are most satisfied own the most guns and own military style rifles.

Evan Nappen 08:26
Now, let me just say, I’ve already come out on this program in the past as being an ammosexual, and I know that most of my listeners are ammosexuals. But now ammosexuality has even another bonus. Because if you love guns, if you are a zealous advocate for the Second Amendment, and if you are an ammosexual who has come out, well, I guess you’re also declaring that you are satisfied with your sexuality and your penis size. And in fact, you’re damn proud of it. The more guns and the more assault firearm guns you have, the better for you. So, I just want to go on the record today, folks, and say, I own a lot of guns. Yes, I do. And I own a lot of military-style firearms. Yeah. And I own a Barrett 50. So, what does that tell you? I don’t know. But it’s out there. And I’m sure you can all now take pride in not only all the guns that you own, but what it actually means. So, don’t let those misinformed folks ever tell you otherwise, because the scientific studies are out there, telling us, of course, what we all already knew.

Evan Nappen 10:10

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Since you are a gun person and you enjoy your firearms and are proud to be an ammosexual and you would like to enjoy using these wonderful tools, I would strongly suggest that you check out WeShoot. WeShoot is an indoor range in Lakewood, New Jersey, and they have fantastic facility. You can get great training. You can get your CCARE certificate there to get your carry license. Whether you’re a beginner, an expert, or in between, they have courses for you, and their range is second to none. You’ll be able to have a place to shoot right there in Central Jersey, easy access, right off the Parkway. They will treat you like family.

Evan Nappen 11:14
I want to remind you again that on August 9, August 9, at 9am in the morning, nine to one, WeShoot will have Lieutenant Colonel Mikey Hartman who is going to be there live. The master IDF (Israel Defense Forces) sniper. You probably heard my show. I hope you did. It was a phenomenal show with Colonel Hartman. He’s going to be there at WeShoot. He trained over half a million soldiers and developed the firearms program for the IDF. He is fantastic. It was an honor to have him on the show, and you don’t want to miss meeting him. So, make sure you mark your calendar for August 9 and get down to WeShoot. Take advantage of that great resource. You can find WeShoot on the web at weshootusa.com WeShootusa.com They have a great website with phenomenal photography. They pride themselves in their photography. You’ll love it. WeShoot is a great place, and we’re lucky to have them.

Evan Nappen 12:25
I also want to talk to you about the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. They are the premier gun rights group for New Jersey. Their members are super important to the fight for our gun rights, and their members are also gun owners. And you know what that means now, don’t you? Well, you need to join! Make sure that you’re a part of the solution. They’re the folks that are in the courts as we speak on major cases. We should see some outcome very shortly on the assault firearm ban, where New Jersey banned assault firearms. They are trying to stop us from having greater sexual satisfaction, obviously, by that ban. And that’s being challenged. The ban on large capacity magazines, notice the emphasis on “large capacity” magazines. We have the Carry Killer bill, again, trying to stop us from exercising and utilizing our right to have a gun and carry it. These are the things that the Association does and more. They have a full-time paid lobbyist in Trenton, who is constantly on the alert for any of the shenanigans they’re trying to pull down there. They have a great newsletter, the best in the state. You’ll get the email alerts, and you’ll be able to take action. Make sure you belong to the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs at anjrpc.org. ANJRPC.org

Evan Nappen 14:20
You also need to have the Bible of New Jersey gun law. That is my book, New Jersey Gun Law. It’s over 500 pages. I wonder if having a big gun law book also means that you are extremely endowed and have a great sex life. I think it does mean that. I think I can vouch for that, but whatever. You want to get a hold of Evan’s book, New Jersey Gun Law. It will help you navigate the matrix of New Jersey gun laws so that you don’t become a victim of New Jersey gun law. It will keep you legal. Get your copy, get it today. Go to my website, EvanNappen.com. You can order your copy of New Jersey Gun Law at EvanNappen.com.

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Evan Nappen 15:26
Now, I got some great letters, and there’s kind of a repeating subject that has come up lately. And that subject is as follows. This is from Fedde. Fedde says, my New Jersey carry renewal is January 2025. Do I need to requalify with my handgun? Also, what is the rule for guns I can carry after renewal? So, what about the gun renewal? Then I have another letter of which there are many other letters. This one’s from an instructor by the way, Bob. He’s a New Jersey certified CCW instructor. My earliest students are now calling me and asking what they have to do to renew their permits. Has Trenton put out a clear set of requirements for permit renewal? Could you please do a podcast about this, so my students and I will know what is required. I tell all my students to subscribe to your podcast AND they are required to listen to show #157 (NJ Carry – What You Must Know Now) as part of my course.

Evan Nappen 16:33
Well, thank you, Bob. That show is important and may be deserved to be repeated every so often for new subscribers until the courts change the stupid rules. When they change the stupid rules, I’ll do a show about that. So, what about renewals? What about carry permit renewals? There are some important things I want you to know about renewals. I’ve been seeing even cases where issuing authorities don’t know the rules. Judges don’t know the rules. Let’s talk about the basics, right away, about the CCARE. So, the CCARE Certificate is your qualification that you must have to get your carry permit. How long is a CCARE Certificate valid for? Do you have to retake CCARE every time you do a renewal? Or is it something that is not necessary every time? What’s the rule? What’s the standard? What’s the law?

Evan Nappen 17:50
Well, let me give you it with specificity. I’m not just going to tell you what it is. I’m going to tell you where it is and exactly what it says so that you will know for a fact. Now, in summary, even before I give you that law, the bottom line is this. If your CCARE Certificate is less than two years old and you’re renewing your carry permit, it is valid. You do not have to get a new CCARE certification. Now you will find this, specifically, in case you need it, under N.J.S. 2C:58-4. (Permits to carry handguns.), and it is under sub section d., small letter D for dog, (3). N.J.S. 2C:58-4.d.(3)

Evan Nappen 18:55
I’ll read it for you. It says under the requirements, (3) has completed the training requirements established pursuant to subsection g. of this section, provided that any requirements for classroom instruction and target training shall not be required for a renewal applicant who completed the instruction and training when obtaining a permit to carry a handgun issued within the previous two years;” There you have it, folks. It’s not required for you to do it again if you’ve completed it within the previous two years. So, don’t be told otherwise. That’s the law. That’s the fact, and you have the statute. You now know exactly where it says it. Do not go and retake it, unless you want to. But there’s no requirement to do so. I’m now hearing that some departments are saying, oh, we will accept it if it’s less than six months old. Oh, yeah? Well, I’ll tell you the legal answer to that. It’s called bullshit. Okay? No. No, it’s two years. Read the law. Follow the law. Make believe that’s your job. Okay? Because there it is, in black and white. There is no ambiguity there whatsoever, folks. None whatsoever. So, don’t get pushed around on that one.

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Evan Nappen 20:43
Let me just say this. I recently received a call from somebody who fought their denial for their permit. The judge agreed to grant the permit. Now, I didn’t represent this person in this court, but I may represent them after this. The judge ordered the issuance of his permit. However, the judge demanded that they have proof of insurance, proof of insurance, which is absolutely not required. Now, the statute, the carry killer statute, under N.J.S. 2C:58-4.3 mandated liability insurance. But the liability insurance mandate was enjoined, an injunction was granted against that law by Judge Bumb in Federal court. Even on the appeal that is now pending, that was not disturbed. That was not stayed. In other words, the injunction is still in place, as we speak. There is no insurance requirement by way of injunction brought by the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs (ANJRPC). There’s no requirement to have liability insurance. In fact, the liability insurance that New Jersey required can’t even be issued, because they are demanding that the insurance company insure an intentional act. Insurance companies don’t insure against intentional acts. They don’t insure if someone purposely kills somebody or shoots somebody. It’s not an accident. It’s not negligence. It’s an intentional act. The law required that for the insurance is outrageous and wrong, and no company can even provide it. But it’s been stayed.

Evan Nappen 23:07
Of course, the irony of the whole damn thing is that you may remember. A number of years ago before the carry permit law, Governor Murphy got up there and said, I’m going to, by executive order, ban gun owner protection insurance, that some companies like NRA. Remember the Carry Guard fiasco, where they were doing gun owner insurance? Murphy banned that by executive order, saying, I’m not going to allow murder insurance in New Jersey. That’s what he called it. Murder insurance. However, it isn’t murder insurance. Those are gun owner protection programs, nothing to do with murder insurance. But what does he sign in the Carry Killer bill? A law requiring actual murder insurance, which no insurance company will actually provide. These people are unbelievable. It’s just insanity here.

Evan Nappen 24:15
But luckily, a great Federal judge like Judge Bumb enjoined the liability insurance requirement. Liability insurance is not required. It cannot be required. It’s unconstitutional to require it as per the Federal court. So, in this case, where the judge has mandated this, it is flat out wrong. He cannot require something that is blatantly unconstitutional and found so in Federal court. And something particularly that is unobtainable to begin with. So, this is, of course, what we have to constantly deal with in New Jersey, and it never ends.

Evan Nappen 25:03
Now I did get another letter wondering and asking about whether you can carry in state parks. Apparently, some other websites may list that you can do this or there’s confusion. Let me just straighten it out now right now. You see there is some confusion here. The bottom line is that you should not carry in state parks because under the sensitive places’ restrictions, at the moment, we’re fighting this. But under number three of sensitive places, parks and other recreational spaces, including locations where children congregate, but it’s not limited to those locations, parks and other recreational spaces are currently a sensitive place that you are prohibited from carry. So, don’t make that mistake and carry in state parks, until we get the outcome from the current Association of New Jersey Rifle &

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Pistol Clubs’ litigation that is ongoing. Hopefully we’ll knock out all, if not most, of those sensitive places which were designed to limit our ability to lawfully defend ourselves. So that we are not victims of crime, but rather defenders against crime. And that’s really the key.

Evan Nappen 27:02
Every week, of course, on the show I do the GOFU. A very popular segment the GOFU. The GOFU is the Gun Owner Fuck Up. The reason we talk about GOFUs is these are expensive lessons, mistakes, problems, that others experience, and you can learn from them on the cheap. You learn from them for free by listening to Gun Lawyer. So, this week’s GOFU is an actual case. I’ve come across it a number of times, and it has to do with what shotguns are prohibited under the assault firearm ban. It’s currently being challenged, but we haven’t killed it yet. So, you still have to be very careful.

Evan Nappen 27:55
Now, when it comes to shotguns, there’s a different criteria than the compliant criteria that you might think of with rifles. Because the rifle criteria, as we’ve discussed many times, involves having more than one offending criteria. The arbitrary features that the Government has somehow decided makes a gun intrinsically evil. This includes a bayonet mount, a flash suppressor, a threaded barrel, a pistol grip, a telescoping or folding stock, or the ever popular grenade launcher. I know you’re all going out grenade launching this weekend. Those are the features that apply to rifles that are semi-automatic and accept detachable magazine.

Evan Nappen 28:52
But it’s a completely different criteria for shotguns. Now this particular individual actually purchased a shotgun that was a semi-automatic shotgun from a dealer in New Jersey. Others as well. I’ve heard from other dealers and other problems. Here’s the deal. When it comes to semi- automatic shotguns in New Jersey, you are prohibited from having a semi-automatic shotgun with any one of the following features. It’s not a two-feature deal like with rifles. If you have a semi-auto shotgun and you have any one of these features, then it’s an assault firearm under the current law. Those features are one of three features, and any one of these makes it verboten.

Evan Nappen 29:44
First feature, if it has a pistol grip. So, any semi-automatic shotgun with a pistol grip is an assault firearm. Period. Any semi-automatic shotgun with a folding stock is an assault firearm. Any semi- automatic shotgun with a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds is an assault firearm. That’s right, folks. If that tube on your shotgun holds over six rounds, then that alone makes it an assault firearm. There are a number of semi-auto shotguns that hold over six rounds.

Evan Nappen 30:36
Now to add further to the confusion. If you actually read through the Attorney General Guidelines, the ’96 guidelines with the compliant factors that we just talked about for rifles, they have a section about shotguns. When the Attorney General promulgated that guideline, he just took verbatim the 1994 Crime Bill, you know, the bill that was a crime, but anyway. They took that criteria and said no, this is what substantially identical means under Jersey law, which was an absurdity because the Federal law wasn’t passed till four years after the Jersey law was passed.

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Evan Nappen 31:16
But anyway, when he cited that he went with the federal definition under the crime bill which has since expired in 2004. It’s been dead ever since then, but not in New Jersey because we adopted that as our definition of “substantially identical”. This says five rounds but that is flat out wrong. It’s not five. It’s six. New Jersey’s statute says six. If you have a semi-automatic shotgun and it holds over six rounds, you’ve got a problem. You’re looking at a potential charge of assault firearm and that is extraordinarily serious. Ten years in State Prison, minimum mandatory three and a half years, no chance of parole, no exception. So, beware. You don’t want to have that GOFU on you.

Evan Nappen 32:08
Now, let me just also say that if you have a pump action shotgun, a Mossberg 590, for example, a pump action. The assault firearm semi-auto shotgun criteria does not apply. You can have a pump shotgun, like a Mossberg 590, and it can hold nine shots. No problem. It can have a folding stock, no problem. It can have a pistol grip, no problem. It can have a heat shield, no problem. It can have a bayonet mount, no problem. You can put all the whistles and bells you want on your pump action shotgun. You can get a 590, you know the M590A1, the military issue one, that has a heat shield, that has a bayonet mount, and you can lock in an M7 bayonet or an M9 bayonet that fits an AR right on it. You can have that heat shroud, have nine shots, have a pistol grip and a folding stock, and you are 100% legal in New Jersey for that gun. Because it’s a pump action. You can trick out your 870 the same way. Why? Because it’s a pump. You want to make your Ithaca 37? No problem. It’s a pump. Any pump shotgun. Not a problem. Not an assault firearm But with semi-auto shotguns, be careful. Don’t be a GOFU. This is Evan Nappen reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.

Speaker 3 32:22
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Gun Lawyer Episode 191

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

firearm, new jersey, guns, carry, law, gun owner, gun ownership, gun, automatic shotgun, renewal, required, assault, permit, bayonet mount, requirement, semi, insurance, shotguns, put, criteria

SPEAKERS

Evan Nappen, Speaker 3

Evan Nappen 00:00
Hi, I’m Evan Nappen, and welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, you may have heard. It’s kind of like a thing that the anti-gunners and folks, particularly feminists, arguably radical feminist, like to push this a lot. They like to say that men who like guns, oh, they’re compensating for their small penises. Right? You’ve probably heard that BS out there before about that. Well, what’s really interesting is somebody’s group, an anti-gun group, believe it or not, decided to actually research that topic. Yes. They are going to decide and see if, you know, how do guns play out in terms of sexual satisfaction for gun owners? This is from an article by one of my favorite authors, who I’ve mentioned before, Dean Weingarten at AmmoLand. You should all subscribe to AmmoLand. It’s a free service, and they’ll send you the daily news feed.

Evan Nappen 01:49
This article is about that very research on those who own guns. (https://www.ammoland.com/2024/06/research-finds-men-who-own-guns-have-greater-sexual- satisfaction/#axzz8dtg6VuAi) What’s really interesting about this research is that it shows a significant correlation between the possession of guns and a man’s satisfaction with his sexual equipment. That’s right. That’s right. So, as the antis like to put out there this other opposite view, it’s really a fantasy and a falsehood that they’re putting out there about this situation. For example. Dean Weingarten in the article quotes the Huffington Post, right the HuffPost, which is a known left wing site. In the article from the HuffPost in 2016, “the compulsion to own firearms stems from an unconscious need to compensate for a deep-seated psychological sense of insecurity and inadequacy in terms of power: in males, specifically for having a small or smaller-than-desired penis.”

Evan Nappen 03:23
Well, guess what? Researchers decided to actually test this to see if this in fact is true. They decided

to investigate it. This research and all was funded by a group that wants to disarm the American population. It was financially supported by an organization called “Change the Ref”, whose “mission is shifting America’s social response to gun violence. . .”, there you go, “gun violence”, not criminal violence, of course. You know that same old BS, “gun violence”. “. . . by uniting creativity, activism, disruption, and education.” The researchers state that although “Change the Ref” has a clear anti-gun stance, it had no role in the planning or implementation of the study. And I gotta say, I guess that’s actually true. Because this study was published in the American Journal of Men’s Health.

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Evan Nappen 04:35
Guess what they found out, folks? Exactly the opposite, the opposite. They found that the more male gun owners were satisfied with their penis size, the more they were likely to own guns, to own more guns, and to own military-style rifles. That’s right. The more guns, particularly the more so-called assault firearms you own, the more satisfied you are with your penis size, sexuality, and sexual performance. Imagine that. Yep. And what’s interesting here is Mr. Weingarten quotes from the study, a nice little abstract here, in which the study said, “we formally examine the association between penis size dissatisfaction and gun ownership in America. The primary hypothesis, derived from the psychosexual theory of gun ownership, asserts that men who are more dissatisfied with the size of their penises will be more likely to personally own guns. To test this hypothesis, we used data collected from the 2023 Masculinity, Sexual Health, and Politics (MSHAP) survey, a national probability sample of 1,840 men, and regression analysis to model personal gun ownership as a function of penis size dissatisfaction, experiences with penis enlargement, social desirability, masculinity, body mass, mental health, and a range of sociodemographic characteristics.”

Evan Nappen 06:42
“We find that men who are more dissatisfied with the size of their penises are less likely to personally own guns across outcomes, including any gun ownership, military-style rifle ownership, and total number of guns owned. The inverse association between penis size dissatisfaction and gun ownership is linear; however, the association is weakest among men ages 60 and older. With these findings in mind, we failed to observe any differences in personal gun ownership between men who have and have not attempted penis enlargement. To our knowledge, this is the first study to formally examine the association between penis size and personal gun ownership in America. Our findings fail to support the psychosexual theory of gun ownership.” Imagine that! This garbage put out by the other side, the anti- Second Amendment crowd, to try to disparage men who own guns by saying that they have small manhood and are dissatisfied. And it’s just the opposite. As a matter of fact, the guys that are most satisfied own the most guns and own military style rifles.

Evan Nappen 08:26
Now, let me just say, I’ve already come out on this program in the past as being an ammosexual, and I know that most of my listeners are ammosexuals. But now ammosexuality has even another bonus. Because if you love guns, if you are a zealous advocate for the Second Amendment, and if you are an ammosexual who has come out, well, I guess you’re also declaring that you are satisfied with your sexuality and your penis size. And in fact, you’re damn proud of it. The more guns and the more assault firearm guns you have, the better for you. So, I just want to go on the record today, folks, and say, I own a lot of guns. Yes, I do. And I own a lot of military-style firearms. Yeah. And I own a Barrett 50. So, what does that tell you? I don’t know. But it’s out there. And I’m sure you can all now take pride in not only all the guns that you own, but what it actually means. So, don’t let those misinformed folks ever tell you otherwise, because the scientific studies are out there, telling us, of course, what we all already knew.

Evan Nappen 10:10

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Since you are a gun person and you enjoy your firearms and are proud to be an ammosexual and you would like to enjoy using these wonderful tools, I would strongly suggest that you check out WeShoot. WeShoot is an indoor range in Lakewood, New Jersey, and they have fantastic facility. You can get great training. You can get your CCARE certificate there to get your carry license. Whether you’re a beginner, an expert, or in between, they have courses for you, and their range is second to none. You’ll be able to have a place to shoot right there in Central Jersey, easy access, right off the Parkway. They will treat you like family.

Evan Nappen 11:14
I want to remind you again that on August 9, August 9, at 9am in the morning, nine to one, WeShoot will have Lieutenant Colonel Mikey Hartman who is going to be there live. The master IDF (Israel Defense Forces) sniper. You probably heard my show. I hope you did. It was a phenomenal show with Colonel Hartman. He’s going to be there at WeShoot. He trained over half a million soldiers and developed the firearms program for the IDF. He is fantastic. It was an honor to have him on the show, and you don’t want to miss meeting him. So, make sure you mark your calendar for August 9 and get down to WeShoot. Take advantage of that great resource. You can find WeShoot on the web at weshootusa.com WeShootusa.com They have a great website with phenomenal photography. They pride themselves in their photography. You’ll love it. WeShoot is a great place, and we’re lucky to have them.

Evan Nappen 12:25
I also want to talk to you about the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. They are the premier gun rights group for New Jersey. Their members are super important to the fight for our gun rights, and their members are also gun owners. And you know what that means now, don’t you? Well, you need to join! Make sure that you’re a part of the solution. They’re the folks that are in the courts as we speak on major cases. We should see some outcome very shortly on the assault firearm ban, where New Jersey banned assault firearms. They are trying to stop us from having greater sexual satisfaction, obviously, by that ban. And that’s being challenged. The ban on large capacity magazines, notice the emphasis on “large capacity” magazines. We have the Carry Killer bill, again, trying to stop us from exercising and utilizing our right to have a gun and carry it. These are the things that the Association does and more. They have a full-time paid lobbyist in Trenton, who is constantly on the alert for any of the shenanigans they’re trying to pull down there. They have a great newsletter, the best in the state. You’ll get the email alerts, and you’ll be able to take action. Make sure you belong to the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs at anjrpc.org. ANJRPC.org

Evan Nappen 14:20
You also need to have the Bible of New Jersey gun law. That is my book, New Jersey Gun Law. It’s over 500 pages. I wonder if having a big gun law book also means that you are extremely endowed and have a great sex life. I think it does mean that. I think I can vouch for that, but whatever. You want to get a hold of Evan’s book, New Jersey Gun Law. It will help you navigate the matrix of New Jersey gun laws so that you don’t become a victim of New Jersey gun law. It will keep you legal. Get your copy, get it today. Go to my website, EvanNappen.com. You can order your copy of New Jersey Gun Law at EvanNappen.com.

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Evan Nappen 15:26
Now, I got some great letters, and there’s kind of a repeating subject that has come up lately. And that subject is as follows. This is from Fedde. Fedde says, my New Jersey carry renewal is January 2025. Do I need to requalify with my handgun? Also, what is the rule for guns I can carry after renewal? So, what about the gun renewal? Then I have another letter of which there are many other letters. This one’s from an instructor by the way, Bob. He’s a New Jersey certified CCW instructor. My earliest students are now calling me and asking what they have to do to renew their permits. Has Trenton put out a clear set of requirements for permit renewal? Could you please do a podcast about this, so my students and I will know what is required. I tell all my students to subscribe to your podcast AND they are required to listen to show #157 (NJ Carry – What You Must Know Now) as part of my course.

Evan Nappen 16:33
Well, thank you, Bob. That show is important and may be deserved to be repeated every so often for new subscribers until the courts change the stupid rules. When they change the stupid rules, I’ll do a show about that. So, what about renewals? What about carry permit renewals? There are some important things I want you to know about renewals. I’ve been seeing even cases where issuing authorities don’t know the rules. Judges don’t know the rules. Let’s talk about the basics, right away, about the CCARE. So, the CCARE Certificate is your qualification that you must have to get your carry permit. How long is a CCARE Certificate valid for? Do you have to retake CCARE every time you do a renewal? Or is it something that is not necessary every time? What’s the rule? What’s the standard? What’s the law?

Evan Nappen 17:50
Well, let me give you it with specificity. I’m not just going to tell you what it is. I’m going to tell you where it is and exactly what it says so that you will know for a fact. Now, in summary, even before I give you that law, the bottom line is this. If your CCARE Certificate is less than two years old and you’re renewing your carry permit, it is valid. You do not have to get a new CCARE certification. Now you will find this, specifically, in case you need it, under N.J.S. 2C:58-4. (Permits to carry handguns.), and it is under sub section d., small letter D for dog, (3). N.J.S. 2C:58-4.d.(3)

Evan Nappen 18:55
I’ll read it for you. It says under the requirements, (3) has completed the training requirements established pursuant to subsection g. of this section, provided that any requirements for classroom instruction and target training shall not be required for a renewal applicant who completed the instruction and training when obtaining a permit to carry a handgun issued within the previous two years;” There you have it, folks. It’s not required for you to do it again if you’ve completed it within the previous two years. So, don’t be told otherwise. That’s the law. That’s the fact, and you have the statute. You now know exactly where it says it. Do not go and retake it, unless you want to. But there’s no requirement to do so. I’m now hearing that some departments are saying, oh, we will accept it if it’s less than six months old. Oh, yeah? Well, I’ll tell you the legal answer to that. It’s called bullshit. Okay? No. No, it’s two years. Read the law. Follow the law. Make believe that’s your job. Okay? Because there it is, in black and white. There is no ambiguity there whatsoever, folks. None whatsoever. So, don’t get pushed around on that one.

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Evan Nappen 20:43
Let me just say this. I recently received a call from somebody who fought their denial for their permit. The judge agreed to grant the permit. Now, I didn’t represent this person in this court, but I may represent them after this. The judge ordered the issuance of his permit. However, the judge demanded that they have proof of insurance, proof of insurance, which is absolutely not required. Now, the statute, the carry killer statute, under N.J.S. 2C:58-4.3 mandated liability insurance. But the liability insurance mandate was enjoined, an injunction was granted against that law by Judge Bumb in Federal court. Even on the appeal that is now pending, that was not disturbed. That was not stayed. In other words, the injunction is still in place, as we speak. There is no insurance requirement by way of injunction brought by the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs (ANJRPC). There’s no requirement to have liability insurance. In fact, the liability insurance that New Jersey required can’t even be issued, because they are demanding that the insurance company insure an intentional act. Insurance companies don’t insure against intentional acts. They don’t insure if someone purposely kills somebody or shoots somebody. It’s not an accident. It’s not negligence. It’s an intentional act. The law required that for the insurance is outrageous and wrong, and no company can even provide it. But it’s been stayed.

Evan Nappen 23:07
Of course, the irony of the whole damn thing is that you may remember. A number of years ago before the carry permit law, Governor Murphy got up there and said, I’m going to, by executive order, ban gun owner protection insurance, that some companies like NRA. Remember the Carry Guard fiasco, where they were doing gun owner insurance? Murphy banned that by executive order, saying, I’m not going to allow murder insurance in New Jersey. That’s what he called it. Murder insurance. However, it isn’t murder insurance. Those are gun owner protection programs, nothing to do with murder insurance. But what does he sign in the Carry Killer bill? A law requiring actual murder insurance, which no insurance company will actually provide. These people are unbelievable. It’s just insanity here.

Evan Nappen 24:15
But luckily, a great Federal judge like Judge Bumb enjoined the liability insurance requirement. Liability insurance is not required. It cannot be required. It’s unconstitutional to require it as per the Federal court. So, in this case, where the judge has mandated this, it is flat out wrong. He cannot require something that is blatantly unconstitutional and found so in Federal court. And something particularly that is unobtainable to begin with. So, this is, of course, what we have to constantly deal with in New Jersey, and it never ends.

Evan Nappen 25:03
Now I did get another letter wondering and asking about whether you can carry in state parks. Apparently, some other websites may list that you can do this or there’s confusion. Let me just straighten it out now right now. You see there is some confusion here. The bottom line is that you should not carry in state parks because under the sensitive places’ restrictions, at the moment, we’re fighting this. But under number three of sensitive places, parks and other recreational spaces, including locations where children congregate, but it’s not limited to those locations, parks and other recreational spaces are currently a sensitive place that you are prohibited from carry. So, don’t make that mistake and carry in state parks, until we get the outcome from the current Association of New Jersey Rifle &

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Pistol Clubs’ litigation that is ongoing. Hopefully we’ll knock out all, if not most, of those sensitive places which were designed to limit our ability to lawfully defend ourselves. So that we are not victims of crime, but rather defenders against crime. And that’s really the key.

Evan Nappen 27:02
Every week, of course, on the show I do the GOFU. A very popular segment the GOFU. The GOFU is the Gun Owner Fuck Up. The reason we talk about GOFUs is these are expensive lessons, mistakes, problems, that others experience, and you can learn from them on the cheap. You learn from them for free by listening to Gun Lawyer. So, this week’s GOFU is an actual case. I’ve come across it a number of times, and it has to do with what shotguns are prohibited under the assault firearm ban. It’s currently being challenged, but we haven’t killed it yet. So, you still have to be very careful.

Evan Nappen 27:55
Now, when it comes to shotguns, there’s a different criteria than the compliant criteria that you might think of with rifles. Because the rifle criteria, as we’ve discussed many times, involves having more than one offending criteria. The arbitrary features that the Government has somehow decided makes a gun intrinsically evil. This includes a bayonet mount, a flash suppressor, a threaded barrel, a pistol grip, a telescoping or folding stock, or the ever popular grenade launcher. I know you’re all going out grenade launching this weekend. Those are the features that apply to rifles that are semi-automatic and accept detachable magazine.

Evan Nappen 28:52
But it’s a completely different criteria for shotguns. Now this particular individual actually purchased a shotgun that was a semi-automatic shotgun from a dealer in New Jersey. Others as well. I’ve heard from other dealers and other problems. Here’s the deal. When it comes to semi- automatic shotguns in New Jersey, you are prohibited from having a semi-automatic shotgun with any one of the following features. It’s not a two-feature deal like with rifles. If you have a semi-auto shotgun and you have any one of these features, then it’s an assault firearm under the current law. Those features are one of three features, and any one of these makes it verboten.

Evan Nappen 29:44
First feature, if it has a pistol grip. So, any semi-automatic shotgun with a pistol grip is an assault firearm. Period. Any semi-automatic shotgun with a folding stock is an assault firearm. Any semi- automatic shotgun with a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds is an assault firearm. That’s right, folks. If that tube on your shotgun holds over six rounds, then that alone makes it an assault firearm. There are a number of semi-auto shotguns that hold over six rounds.

Evan Nappen 30:36
Now to add further to the confusion. If you actually read through the Attorney General Guidelines, the ’96 guidelines with the compliant factors that we just talked about for rifles, they have a section about shotguns. When the Attorney General promulgated that guideline, he just took verbatim the 1994 Crime Bill, you know, the bill that was a crime, but anyway. They took that criteria and said no, this is what substantially identical means under Jersey law, which was an absurdity because the Federal law wasn’t passed till four years after the Jersey law was passed.

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Evan Nappen 31:16
But anyway, when he cited that he went with the federal definition under the crime bill which has since expired in 2004. It’s been dead ever since then, but not in New Jersey because we adopted that as our definition of “substantially identical”. This says five rounds but that is flat out wrong. It’s not five. It’s six. New Jersey’s statute says six. If you have a semi-automatic shotgun and it holds over six rounds, you’ve got a problem. You’re looking at a potential charge of assault firearm and that is extraordinarily serious. Ten years in State Prison, minimum mandatory three and a half years, no chance of parole, no exception. So, beware. You don’t want to have that GOFU on you.

Evan Nappen 32:08
Now, let me just also say that if you have a pump action shotgun, a Mossberg 590, for example, a pump action. The assault firearm semi-auto shotgun criteria does not apply. You can have a pump shotgun, like a Mossberg 590, and it can hold nine shots. No problem. It can have a folding stock, no problem. It can have a pistol grip, no problem. It can have a heat shield, no problem. It can have a bayonet mount, no problem. You can put all the whistles and bells you want on your pump action shotgun. You can get a 590, you know the M590A1, the military issue one, that has a heat shield, that has a bayonet mount, and you can lock in an M7 bayonet or an M9 bayonet that fits an AR right on it. You can have that heat shroud, have nine shots, have a pistol grip and a folding stock, and you are 100% legal in New Jersey for that gun. Because it’s a pump action. You can trick out your 870 the same way. Why? Because it’s a pump. You want to make your Ithaca 37? No problem. It’s a pump. Any pump shotgun. Not a problem. Not an assault firearm But with semi-auto shotguns, be careful. Don’t be a GOFU. This is Evan Nappen reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.

Speaker 3 32:22
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