Phineas Jones and the Stubble of Apollo with Special Guest Craig Price! (In the Style of the Indiana Jones Movies)

In a World of...Improvised Movie Homages

In a World…where there are good men and evil men, and some seek to help while others seek to destroy…one of the evilest groups in history seek an object of such immense power it could completely change the course of World War II. The US government will call upon the intrepid accountant adventurer, Phineas Jones, to beat the Nazis in their race to acquire the mythical and magical Stubble of Apollo!

This episode features the improv games prologue in a minute, emotional lists, best of times worst of times, ding, and cutting room.

This episode also features our friend and movie podcaster extraordinaire, Craig Price! Mike and

Avish had the pleasure to be a guest on Craig’s Matinee Heroes Podcast, as well has his super fun recasting game show, Cast-Off! Craig is a huge fan of Indiana Jones movies, so we use his expertise in our planning section.

In this episode, we pay homage to one of our absolute favorite heroes and movies: Indiana Jones! This episode specifically parodies Raiders of the Lost Ark (but we hope that we will do our first sequel with this one!). We hit most of the tropes of a good Indiana Jones movie and boy, did we have fun doing it!

Check out Craig’s Stuff!

Avish and Mike on Matinee Heroes talking about The Omen

Avish and Mike on Cast-Off! Recasting Interview with a Vampire

Avish and Mike on Cast-Off! Recasting Dick Tracy (COMING TODAY!)

Matinee Heroes Home Page (Cast-Off episodes are here too)

Links

Indiana Jones on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones

Time Codes

Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes with Guest Craig Price: 06:37

Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 23:08

Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 30:45

Start of show: 35:35

Improv Game - Prologue in a Minute: 38:08

Improv Game - Emotional Lists: 40:18

Improv Game - Best of Times, Worst of Times: 50:48

Improv Game - Ding: 1:00:00

Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:08:51

End of show, into announcements: 1:26:00

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Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)

so mikey why don't you begin by letting everyone know what today's genre or starting movie is.

Michael Worth: This is such my pleasure i'm so excited to do this we're going to do a fantastic archaeology exploration type movie in the style of indiana Jones or King solomon's minds.

Avish Parashar: let's just say indiana Jones.

Avish Parashar: knock off, which is interesting because the book King solomon's mines came out.

Avish Parashar: The whole quarter main thing came out long before raiders of the lost Ark raiders lost Ark was almost it almost to that.

Michael Worth: It was it was an homage to the 30s pulp exploration, you know, doctors, the savage jungle and that kind of stuff.

Michael Worth: yeah but.

Avish Parashar: Once but once raiders lost Ark came out like cool let's get on this gravy train and they made an hour to Ellen quarter made movies, which were bad.

Avish Parashar: weather was bad I didn't even bother watching the second one, because.

Avish Parashar: The first of all, so bad.

Michael Worth: No it's so bad, it was so, but the best part about it was the fact that Jerry goes with it, the music and the end the score is like legit so uh yeah.

Avish Parashar: yeah Mike and I did a movie like podcast slash Facebook live for a while we review an 80s movie each week and we did this one, and it was terrible.

Avish Parashar: But we found is almost every week, we talked about how bad the movie was when are we talking about a bad movie the score was always amazing it's like they get better so that's three or like.

Michael Worth: This Jesus man well because they knew that we'll get to that a bit, but they knew that the movie was terrible and the only way they could possibly sell which it was to make at least make it sound epic right, so all right, so this.

Avish Parashar: We love we both love indiana Jones all genre but this episode is double specials got two additional reasons why it's extra special number one, we have to prep for this episode we interviewed our buddy Craig price.

Avish Parashar: was a great movie guy he hosts a podcast called matinee heroes.

Avish Parashar: which you can find a matinee heroes COM, or just look up matt night heroes on whatever he also hosts a a a kind of a game show called cast off that Mike and I have appeared on before and we're going to appear on again coming up soon depending when this comes out.

Avish Parashar: Where you compete against one recasting famous movie so Mike and I competed recasting interview with a vampire and now we're gonna get crazy.

Avish Parashar: So it's a lot of fun craig's a big movie guy he loves indiana Jones so we go in depth into the tropes.

Avish Parashar: So we're gonna do that for a trope discussion, the other reason that i'm excited about this genre.

Avish Parashar: Is that way back at this point about a year ago, when we first had the idea for this podcast we didn't know if this show format would work, so of course we just jumped in like good improvise it let's try it.

Avish Parashar: yeah very first one we ever tried was a indiana Jones movie now that was so new we were just testing stuff out we didn't even bother to record it, which is a shame, because it went really well.

Michael Worth: Did I did I was a good show you first really production entertainment, which is record everything record everything right.

Avish Parashar: yeah we.

Avish Parashar: should have recorded it we didn't.

Avish Parashar: But does the first time, returning to this so i've been almost a year since we've done in indiana Jones so we're gonna do today.

Avish Parashar: That one was called phineas Jones and the cult of Marmara um we're not going to do the call tomorrow, but we are going to stay with phineas Jones as our main character.

Avish Parashar: Yes, you'll see that further adventures of phineas Jones in the in the.

Michael Worth: unreleased or the release sequel to the unreleased original which has been lost in the midst of time.

Avish Parashar: Exactly it's like when there's a pilot that that's not aired but they still turn into a show that's.

Avish Parashar: that's what this is going to be like.

Michael Worth: it's gonna be.

Avish Parashar: So real quick before we get into all this craziness if you liked this show, if you like, what you hear.

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Avish Parashar: Alright, so we are going to start and again, our first segment, which is discussing the tropes we're going to drop in our conversation with Craig price.

Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)

Avish Parashar: segment two, we are now going to create an outline Based on this information that we talked about with Craig and Mike and I know.

Avish Parashar: we're going to create a high level outline we're going to use a four act structure and again, this is a rough guide because of improv comedy we may not follow this outline exactly but there's going to be our rough guide of what happens in each segment of the story yep so like a.

Michael Worth: Oh man i'm already all this, you know mean indiana Jones but I love this stuff I think it's one of my favorite films Harrison ford's been in a first of all.

Avish Parashar: i'm making a call right so that's going on and i'll real far limb there.

yeah.

Avish Parashar: So contrary in that I like raiders of the lost Ark I know exactly.

Michael Worth: Being like I like to be in the conversation now that's different.

Michael Worth: That will be a bold statement yeah or or or the mosquito coast whoo that's it that's it that's it.

Michael Worth: So, first of all going to be the call right now, because I know this this this flow we're doing a prologue not a trailer because they always do a prologue that's a fun little cold open unrelated to the main quest.

Avish Parashar: yeah and.

Avish Parashar: For this prologue you will be the one singing anything goes in China.

Michael Worth: Yes, in China.

Michael Worth: Steven spielberg's wife right and play police gotten that right.

Avish Parashar: yeah at least wife at the time, I know they're still married or not.

Michael Worth: yeah who knows man and Hollywood whatever so uh it's pretty easy act act one is establishing of our character in his everyday life, because you know this guy is is not a.

Michael Worth: Just like in the library and indiana Jones he has a normal life and it gets sent out on missions uh and then the establishment of.

Michael Worth: Information that some artifact exists, whether it's oh we've got news clippings of somebody excavating this pyramid or whatever, and that is the gestation to send them out on a quest we don't see.

Avish Parashar: It so there's the prologue that act one is like.

Avish Parashar: You have the like the exposition yeah.

Michael Worth: The inciting the inciting information is really what it is.

Avish Parashar: yeah and then you either it's a conversation with the professor, you know the government comes in, or you know the villagers came to him in yeah yeah.

Michael Worth: orange or a private investor in who.

Michael Worth: You know, has an affair, the private investor in the last crusade.

Avish Parashar: Yes, yes, his.

Avish Parashar: intention is to walk the the snow walkers the Ad ads to the.

Michael Worth: he's like is he getting revenge because hog got purchase layout during the added innovation.

Avish Parashar: For those who don't know the bad guy in a holy grail or last crusade, is also the commander of the ad ads in empire strikes back.

Michael Worth: Exactly there it is.

Avish Parashar: Julian glover right.

Michael Worth: Yes, yes he's been he's been a bunch of things.

Avish Parashar: Alright, so.

Avish Parashar: Okay, so act one we establish that and then he goes on there's usually the first um he can investigate the first clue and.

Avish Parashar: So there's some action there's some some yeah and I think we found over the last few months that yo loser outlines, so we don't need a whole lot when we meet the hero first clue and you're going to use the meat, the female interest in in that first.

Michael Worth: And, and this is a great way, especially because that's that we've really tightened up our structure he's going to find the clues and act to.

Michael Worth: That get him to the object in APP three that's how we kind of parse it out and an APP to it's also going to have his first couple one or two for us probably one because it's shorter interacted with the bad guy and or his cronies.

Avish Parashar: Rights Act to heal me it'll be the bad guy he'll fail, I think, the one thing I read a book.

Avish Parashar: On screenwriting and it's talking about the concept of spectacular failure and it's like that's why indiana Jones is so good, not because he succeeds in fact he fails, like every step of the way he has failed spectacularly.

Michael Worth: yeah exactly.

Avish Parashar: don't act one you know they they get the first clue act to they pretty much like he basically it's like each actors just act one you get a clue.

Avish Parashar: That leads you to act two which ends with them fighting another clue which is X three of them fighting another clue and then an act for is when they find and then lose the final object yeah.

Michael Worth: or they finally did the end of that three and then kind of everything goes wrong and act for.

Avish Parashar: Sure, I guess, in.

Avish Parashar: In raiders lost Ark to actually find the Ark but then lose it and then have to get they ultimately lose it act for but right.

Avish Parashar: But basically it's just a clue clue.

Avish Parashar: Resolution.

Michael Worth: yeah exactly and and and every step of the way that you have to flush out a little bit of a couple of number one is that the enemy is almost always i'm able to become either not one step ahead but they're able to whenever.

Michael Worth: Whenever phineas gains is taken away so it's never like he gets there and they've already found the Ark and taking it it's like, no, no, he gets York and the bad guys swoop in like like cheap bullies in a playground, the second is.

Avish Parashar: it's almost like you're saying there's nothing you can have that I cannot take.

Michael Worth: I know it's like.

Michael Worth: Well, I got I hate the fridge.

Avish Parashar: Now let's go to let's go to the show today baby.

Michael Worth: So um but here's The other thing diabolical death traps and puzzles we don't have too many of them, but like that that'll be.

Avish Parashar: gather are like.

Avish Parashar: A lot, and you know what is it's it's the things we need this death traps.

Avish Parashar: And there's riddles and.

Michael Worth: puzzles and.

Avish Parashar: yeah puzzle the puzzle so death traps and puzzles.

Avish Parashar: yeah it's um and they'll kind of come in.

Avish Parashar: And they can be throughout like it can be an act to or activity or act for.

Michael Worth: Sure, for sure.

Avish Parashar: yeah when he def traps and puzzles.

Michael Worth: And then act for is a the following happens like there's look, you know whether or not we've they've got the artifacts in that three or where they get an act for.

Michael Worth: They they lose it right and then their witness the bad guys get greedy and they're witnessed to the.

Michael Worth: exposition of the power of the artifact and it basically killed on the bad guys and saves them right or or or you know that's so basically look at with a big part of that for is like.

Michael Worth: They opened pandora's box they shouldn't have done that, and then, and then we get to have all sorts of fun descriptions of all the cool things that happen.

Avish Parashar: yeah that's a real as artifact it ends up backfire on the good guys and.

Avish Parashar: Have those ones one other thing Oh, at some point if we're going to indiana Jones there's always some kind of creature issue like critters you know snakes.

Michael Worth: Oh rats.

Avish Parashar: rats bugs.

Avish Parashar: there's always like some kind of one of the traps or situations as.

Michael Worth: They have to open yeah man it's actually it's funny like when you think about all things that that Spielberg and Lucas, I put in this it actually is kind of a railroad movie plot, you know.

Avish Parashar: it's just.

Michael Worth: You kind of have to you have to tick the boxes, a little bit right.

Avish Parashar: Oh yeah yeah I mean that's what we do right we just follow the guy was what makes indiana Jones movie without those elements at what point are we going to make sure aliens appear in this story.

Michael Worth: Not aliens extra dimensional beings.

Avish Parashar: entire discussion we just basically ignored the fact.

Avish Parashar: That crystal skull exists.

Michael Worth: Exactly, although and i'm going to wrap up with this one thing that people do forget and it's only because i'm in video games and I love and i'm working on adventure games right now and narrative games.

Michael Worth: There was a slew of high quality Lucas arts games, the Emperor tomb the staff Atlantis that were like legit puzzle games and or legit third person.

Avish Parashar: I.

Avish Parashar: You know what I knew they were, I never actually played any of them, but I always want to play the Atlanta when I heard amazing things about that one.

Michael Worth: Is that the one that was the classic king's quest where's the side scrolling adventure one, I think that.

Avish Parashar: I think that was maybe yeah probably I also like the whole tomb raider franchises essentially like.

Michael Worth: indiana Jones with.

Avish Parashar: Dr Jones variations of.

Avish Parashar: All right, well, that was our timer we got kind of a good basic outline so.