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Ep 7.09 - LIVE! Killing Your Darlings w/ TS Hottle

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Killing characters can be a traumatic experience... but it can also be extremely liberating. Let's talk about it. https://www.tshottle.com https://jimwinterbooks.com/

Hosts: Josh Hayes, Scott Moon, C. Steven Manley Guest: Tom Hottle

00:00 Opening remarks

-Discord server is up! https://discord.com/invite/t96CVRD

-Keystroke Coffee is live! https://keystrokemedium.com/product/keystroke-coffee/

-Use Plottr! https://plottr.com?ref=190

03:30 Weekly update— Turn Off Your Squiggles Edition

Chuck: Working on Jack Darque #3, working on space fantasy series, family stuff galore!

Scott: Sold hit house! Moving into an apartment in April, writing everywhere. Flying through Reaper #14. Enjoying the launch of Reaper #13. Trying to retire and dealing with the advice on ‘fallback’ for writing.

Tom: Finished the Suicide arc and reworking the ending. Enjoying Pro Writing Aid for older works.

Josh: Finished reading Peter F. Hamilton’s Salvation Lost. Loves Hamilton’s space opera writing. Has some similarity to Hyperion in structure. Working on Tranquility #3. About halfway through Weaponized #1. Working on the flash fiction and the next contest.

25:05 Main Event— LIVE! Killing Your Darlings w/ TS Hottle

-Raising tension by character death. -Serving the plot vs. shock value.

-Character deaths that impact the main character. -Drawing emotion from the reader.

-Should you care about your reader’s feelings? -Killing characters the author likes.

-The offscreen ‘death’ where the character could come back at a later date. Warning: this can be done badly! Ex. Rise of Skywalker https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527338/

-Character deaths raise the stakes. -Character deaths as obstacles. Ex. Dumbledore’s death in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373889/

-Keeping scenes around even though they end up on the cutting room floor. Ex. Dresden Files latest novel Battleground https://amzn.to/34WDkML

-Infodumps vs. seeding information throughout a novel and setting up an ending.

-What’s important and what’s not? -Genre dictates detail. -Editors killing your darlings for you.

-‘Thou shalt not bore the reader’ -Ex. ‘Pope in the pool’ in Save the Cat by Blake Snyder https://amzn.to/3Jr4iLv -Aaron Sorkin’s tendency to do claustrophobic scenes where the characters are forced to only talk, which is all dialogue.

-G’Kar and Londo stuck in an elevator in Babylon 5 episode ‘Convictions’. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517641/

-Major character deaths in Babylon 5.

-There’s a reboot! -Love for Seal Team. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6473344/

1:02:10 Closing remarks

***

Coffee and Concepts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRuoHj6opw0

Keystroke Medium Live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qSwdjsN9Q

The Writer’s Journey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydLaFFntB4Q

Storytelling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYRzwuQeK9Q

***

Try out Rob McClellan’s Mod Farm for your website building needs. Use the link for a KSM discount! https://modfarmdesign.com/keystroke/

Become a Medium today! https://keystrokemedium.com/mediums/

Don't forget to Like and Subscribe and get involved with the mayhem and shenanigans in the live chat! http://www.youtube.com/c/keystrokemedium

If you have any thoughts or ideas for show topics or if you have authors you'd like to see on the show, let us know. Visit our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/KeystrokeMedium

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Also, subscribe to Sci Fi Explorations for the best discounted and free books we come across through our contacts: http://www.scifiexplorations.com

***

Keystroke Medium Anthologies

Kingdoms of Iron and Stonehttps://amzn.to/2GjbE6I

Horizons Beyondhttps://amzn.to/2SrJ6uX

Farthest Reachhttps://amzn.to/2UZINeo

The Writing Dream – and How to Make it to Happily Ever After – Keystroke Medium’s first non-fiction book. https://amzn.to/2UZINeo

If you enjoy this podcast, please leave us a review and rate the show on iTunes, Podbean, Stitcher, or wherever else you found us!

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Killing characters can be a traumatic experience... but it can also be extremely liberating. Let's talk about it. https://www.tshottle.com https://jimwinterbooks.com/

Hosts: Josh Hayes, Scott Moon, C. Steven Manley Guest: Tom Hottle

00:00 Opening remarks

-Discord server is up! https://discord.com/invite/t96CVRD

-Keystroke Coffee is live! https://keystrokemedium.com/product/keystroke-coffee/

-Use Plottr! https://plottr.com?ref=190

03:30 Weekly update— Turn Off Your Squiggles Edition

Chuck: Working on Jack Darque #3, working on space fantasy series, family stuff galore!

Scott: Sold hit house! Moving into an apartment in April, writing everywhere. Flying through Reaper #14. Enjoying the launch of Reaper #13. Trying to retire and dealing with the advice on ‘fallback’ for writing.

Tom: Finished the Suicide arc and reworking the ending. Enjoying Pro Writing Aid for older works.

Josh: Finished reading Peter F. Hamilton’s Salvation Lost. Loves Hamilton’s space opera writing. Has some similarity to Hyperion in structure. Working on Tranquility #3. About halfway through Weaponized #1. Working on the flash fiction and the next contest.

25:05 Main Event— LIVE! Killing Your Darlings w/ TS Hottle

-Raising tension by character death. -Serving the plot vs. shock value.

-Character deaths that impact the main character. -Drawing emotion from the reader.

-Should you care about your reader’s feelings? -Killing characters the author likes.

-The offscreen ‘death’ where the character could come back at a later date. Warning: this can be done badly! Ex. Rise of Skywalker https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527338/

-Character deaths raise the stakes. -Character deaths as obstacles. Ex. Dumbledore’s death in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373889/

-Keeping scenes around even though they end up on the cutting room floor. Ex. Dresden Files latest novel Battleground https://amzn.to/34WDkML

-Infodumps vs. seeding information throughout a novel and setting up an ending.

-What’s important and what’s not? -Genre dictates detail. -Editors killing your darlings for you.

-‘Thou shalt not bore the reader’ -Ex. ‘Pope in the pool’ in Save the Cat by Blake Snyder https://amzn.to/3Jr4iLv -Aaron Sorkin’s tendency to do claustrophobic scenes where the characters are forced to only talk, which is all dialogue.

-G’Kar and Londo stuck in an elevator in Babylon 5 episode ‘Convictions’. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517641/

-Major character deaths in Babylon 5.

-There’s a reboot! -Love for Seal Team. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6473344/

1:02:10 Closing remarks

***

Coffee and Concepts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRuoHj6opw0

Keystroke Medium Live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qSwdjsN9Q

The Writer’s Journey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydLaFFntB4Q

Storytelling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYRzwuQeK9Q

***

Try out Rob McClellan’s Mod Farm for your website building needs. Use the link for a KSM discount! https://modfarmdesign.com/keystroke/

Become a Medium today! https://keystrokemedium.com/mediums/

Don't forget to Like and Subscribe and get involved with the mayhem and shenanigans in the live chat! http://www.youtube.com/c/keystrokemedium

If you have any thoughts or ideas for show topics or if you have authors you'd like to see on the show, let us know. Visit our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/KeystrokeMedium

For all the latest and greatest KSM Gear, check out our store at: https://keystrokemedium.com/ksm-store/

Also, subscribe to Sci Fi Explorations for the best discounted and free books we come across through our contacts: http://www.scifiexplorations.com

***

Keystroke Medium Anthologies

Kingdoms of Iron and Stonehttps://amzn.to/2GjbE6I

Horizons Beyondhttps://amzn.to/2SrJ6uX

Farthest Reachhttps://amzn.to/2UZINeo

The Writing Dream – and How to Make it to Happily Ever After – Keystroke Medium’s first non-fiction book. https://amzn.to/2UZINeo

If you enjoy this podcast, please leave us a review and rate the show on iTunes, Podbean, Stitcher, or wherever else you found us!

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