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Ep 7.12 - LIVE! Writer’s Roundtable - Subverting Expectations
Manage episode 327945074 series 2362149
Done well, subverting the expectations of your audience can dramatically enhance your story. Done poorly... well... then you get GoT Season 8. What is your favorite --or worst-- example of this?
Hosts: Josh Hayes, C. Steven Manley
00:00 Opening remarks
-Discord server is up! https://discord.com/invite/t96CVRD
-Keystroke Coffee is live! https://keystrokemedium.com/product/keystroke-coffee/
-Use Plottr! https://plottr.com?ref=190
04:37 Weekly update— Gave the Clap Away Edition
Josh: Wrote a short story for submission/unsubmission. Finished Tranquility #3 and back into Weaponized #1. Finished the outline for Aspect War, a new fantasy series. Lots of Brandon Sanderson reading. Saw The Batman movie. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877830/
Chuck: Working on Jack Darque #3. Finally finished softball season! Watched a show called Severance. Reading some Stephen King. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11280740/ Love for Superman and Lois. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11192306/
19:10 Main Event— LIVE! Writer's Roundtable - Subverting Expectations
-The results of the flash fiction competition! Thoughts on Outer Range. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11685912/
-Twist vs. Subversion.
-The death of Ned Stark is both in the books vs. the final season of Game of Thrones. https://amzn.to/373Rxsh
-Bad twists and subversions ruin both story and enjoyment for the reader/viewer.
-Good examples: Shutter Island https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1130884/ Dean Koonz’s Servants of Twilight https://amzn.to/3s0P35i Ozark https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5071412/
-Writing subversion. Se7en https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114369/
-Subversion against tropes, twists against plot. 8mm https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134273/ Fight Club https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/ Unbreakable https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217869/
-M. Knight Shyamalan’s twists. -Deconstruction vs. Subversion.
1:01:43 Closing remarks
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Coffee and Concepts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRuoHj6opw0
Keystroke Medium Live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qSwdjsN9Q
The Writer’s Journey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydLaFFntB4Q
Storytelling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYRzwuQeK9Q
***
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Keystroke Medium Anthologies
Kingdoms of Iron and Stone – https://amzn.to/2GjbE6I
Horizons Beyond – https://amzn.to/2SrJ6uX
Farthest Reach – https://amzn.to/2UZINeo
The Writing Dream – and How to Make it to Happily Ever After – Keystroke Medium’s first non-fiction book. https://amzn.to/2UZINeo
If you enjoy this podcast, please leave us a review and rate the show on iTunes, Podbean, Stitcher, or wherever else you found us!
108 episodes
Manage episode 327945074 series 2362149
Done well, subverting the expectations of your audience can dramatically enhance your story. Done poorly... well... then you get GoT Season 8. What is your favorite --or worst-- example of this?
Hosts: Josh Hayes, C. Steven Manley
00:00 Opening remarks
-Discord server is up! https://discord.com/invite/t96CVRD
-Keystroke Coffee is live! https://keystrokemedium.com/product/keystroke-coffee/
-Use Plottr! https://plottr.com?ref=190
04:37 Weekly update— Gave the Clap Away Edition
Josh: Wrote a short story for submission/unsubmission. Finished Tranquility #3 and back into Weaponized #1. Finished the outline for Aspect War, a new fantasy series. Lots of Brandon Sanderson reading. Saw The Batman movie. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877830/
Chuck: Working on Jack Darque #3. Finally finished softball season! Watched a show called Severance. Reading some Stephen King. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11280740/ Love for Superman and Lois. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11192306/
19:10 Main Event— LIVE! Writer's Roundtable - Subverting Expectations
-The results of the flash fiction competition! Thoughts on Outer Range. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11685912/
-Twist vs. Subversion.
-The death of Ned Stark is both in the books vs. the final season of Game of Thrones. https://amzn.to/373Rxsh
-Bad twists and subversions ruin both story and enjoyment for the reader/viewer.
-Good examples: Shutter Island https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1130884/ Dean Koonz’s Servants of Twilight https://amzn.to/3s0P35i Ozark https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5071412/
-Writing subversion. Se7en https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114369/
-Subversion against tropes, twists against plot. 8mm https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134273/ Fight Club https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/ Unbreakable https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217869/
-M. Knight Shyamalan’s twists. -Deconstruction vs. Subversion.
1:01:43 Closing remarks
***
Coffee and Concepts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRuoHj6opw0
Keystroke Medium Live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qSwdjsN9Q
The Writer’s Journey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydLaFFntB4Q
Storytelling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYRzwuQeK9Q
***
Try out Rob McClellan’s Mod Farm for your website building needs. Use the link for a KSM discount! https://modfarmdesign.com/keystroke/
Become a Medium today! https://keystrokemedium.com/mediums/
Don't forget to Like and Subscribe and get involved with the mayhem and shenanigans in the live chat! http://www.youtube.com/c/keystrokemedium
If you have any thoughts or ideas for show topics or if you have authors you'd like to see on the show, let us know. Visit our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/KeystrokeMedium
For all the latest and greatest KSM Gear, check out our store at: https://keystrokemedium.com/ksm-store/
Also, subscribe to Sci Fi Explorations for the best discounted and free books we come across through our contacts: http://www.scifiexplorations.com
***
Keystroke Medium Anthologies
Kingdoms of Iron and Stone – https://amzn.to/2GjbE6I
Horizons Beyond – https://amzn.to/2SrJ6uX
Farthest Reach – https://amzn.to/2UZINeo
The Writing Dream – and How to Make it to Happily Ever After – Keystroke Medium’s first non-fiction book. https://amzn.to/2UZINeo
If you enjoy this podcast, please leave us a review and rate the show on iTunes, Podbean, Stitcher, or wherever else you found us!
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