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05 - Black Summer by Warren Ellis and Star Wars: The Last Jedi
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We’re through our first month!! In today’s episode we discuss Warren Ellis’s ‘Black Summer’ and really get into The Last Jedi; was it really as bad or as good as everyone says?.
- 00:00 - Awkward intro, tongue twisters and a bit of a chat 03:54 - The beauty of words 05:05 - What have we been up to: Dee tells us about Black Summer by Warren Ellis 10:00 - Why it hasn't aged well 12:15 - Let's try to get to the end of the book 16:00 - What's Tom been up to? (Lost in Space chat) 19:27 - Updating dated characters & tropes: why all the hate? 22:04 - "Speaking as a father..." 23:47 - Is it worth continuing? 24:05 - This was recorded the week of Star Wars the Last Jedi's home release - Is it better the second time around? 27:14 - DIGRESSION: Why Tom likes Attack of the Clones more than most people do 27:54 - Phillip Marlow but as Obi-Wan Kenobi 29:25 - Star Wars is not just about the Light Side and the Dark Side and speculations 30:54 - Parental responsibility interruption - Child or dog? 31:14 - Mystery boxes, expectations and fan theory 32:00 - Regardless of expectations it's a bloody well made movie! 32:30 - Why Finn and Rose's Vegas Adventure was kind of needed but also why it could have been better 37:09 - Romantic subplot algebra and probability 40:00 - What about Poe Dameron? 46:25 - Whose life is Poe Dameron really risking? 48:42 - Back to Finn and Rose's adventure and the nuance it brings to the Star Wars universe 50:50 - Talking about Rey, that Mary Sue! 54:30 - Too much emphasis on bloodlines - the Anakin Skywalker paradox 1:01:30 - Redemption Arcs: Comparing Kylo Ren to Prince Zuko (for some reason) 1:03:05 - Silly speculations for the next phase 1:03:29 - What all this means for the expanded "Star Wars Legends" canon 1:05:51 - Tom's philosophical gripe with Star Wars and Luke's mistakes are so important 1:09:08 - The poetry of Luke's force projection 1:11:51 - How would WE handle Carrie Fisher's death in the next film? 1:14:40 - Let's wrap this up: what did we think? 1:15:08 - What's Happening in Liverpool News this week? Remember; this was recorded Saturday 14th April 1:19:35 - Dee's homework assignment: I Hate Fairyland by Skottie Young 1:21:52 - Outro and Call to Action!!
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