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"History 102" with WhatifAltHist's Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg

Key Takeaways

  • Our society obsesses over African slavery; it has become a deep psychological neurosis that tears society apart
  • Africa had three different slave trades from the Middle Ages to the 20th century
    • The internal African slave (the largest)
    • The Muslim slave trade (selling slaves to the Muslim world; 2nd largest)
    • The Western European slave trade (3rd largest)
  • Throughout human history, Africa was the place that the most slaves were pulled out of – contrasted with other areas such as Europe and Asia, which had centralized governments that were able to protect their citizens
  • Once Africa became a part of the global economy, it realized that it could offer slaves in exchange for goods and services
  • The vast majority of people involved in the African slave trade were black
  • “I don’t think any serious historian could ever support the 1619 Project who is not an ideologue. It’s not even a historical argument; it’s a political argument masquerading through history.” – Rudyard Lynch
  • Because America was so wealthy, African-American slaves had a higher quality of living than the peasantries of Europe did; however, African-American slaves were disenfranchised from any sort of respect or social standards
  • “I think the British ending slavery in the 1830s and 40s is one of the most admirable things a country has done.” Rudyard Lynch
    • The West practiced slavery, but it was also a society that ended it – which is historically rare
  • As religions developed and spread around the globe, they eventually abolished slavery among their people

Read the full notes @ podcastnotes.org


In this episode of History 102, WhatifAltHist creator Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg discuss the history of the Muslim slave trade, a forgotten tragedy that predates and rivals the Atlantic slave trade in both scale and brutality.

Dive into the complex dynamics and enduring impact of this dark chapter in African history, and explore the Muslim and internal slave trades while also challenging the 1619 Project's narrative. Learn about the broader context of global slavery, the complex origins of racial inequality, and the global network that fueled the transatlantic slave trade.

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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:42) African Slave Trade Basics
(01:42) Misconceptions and Context
(03:20) Different African Slave Trades
(03:25) Muslim Slave Trade
(14:19) Sponsor: beehiiv | Babbel
(20:49) Comparisons with the Atlantic Slave Trade
(41:34) Impact of Slavery on America
(55:09) Slavery in Brazil and the Caribbean
(58:30) Book Recommendations
(59:10) Wrap
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BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

African Founders by David Hackett Fisher

Conquests and Cultures by Thomas Sowell

Africa by John Reeder

Africa and the Africans by John Thornton

  continue reading

297 episodes

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"History 102" with WhatifAltHist's Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg

Key Takeaways

  • Our society obsesses over African slavery; it has become a deep psychological neurosis that tears society apart
  • Africa had three different slave trades from the Middle Ages to the 20th century
    • The internal African slave (the largest)
    • The Muslim slave trade (selling slaves to the Muslim world; 2nd largest)
    • The Western European slave trade (3rd largest)
  • Throughout human history, Africa was the place that the most slaves were pulled out of – contrasted with other areas such as Europe and Asia, which had centralized governments that were able to protect their citizens
  • Once Africa became a part of the global economy, it realized that it could offer slaves in exchange for goods and services
  • The vast majority of people involved in the African slave trade were black
  • “I don’t think any serious historian could ever support the 1619 Project who is not an ideologue. It’s not even a historical argument; it’s a political argument masquerading through history.” – Rudyard Lynch
  • Because America was so wealthy, African-American slaves had a higher quality of living than the peasantries of Europe did; however, African-American slaves were disenfranchised from any sort of respect or social standards
  • “I think the British ending slavery in the 1830s and 40s is one of the most admirable things a country has done.” Rudyard Lynch
    • The West practiced slavery, but it was also a society that ended it – which is historically rare
  • As religions developed and spread around the globe, they eventually abolished slavery among their people

Read the full notes @ podcastnotes.org


In this episode of History 102, WhatifAltHist creator Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg discuss the history of the Muslim slave trade, a forgotten tragedy that predates and rivals the Atlantic slave trade in both scale and brutality.

Dive into the complex dynamics and enduring impact of this dark chapter in African history, and explore the Muslim and internal slave trades while also challenging the 1619 Project's narrative. Learn about the broader context of global slavery, the complex origins of racial inequality, and the global network that fueled the transatlantic slave trade.

🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

--
RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech.
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv
-
Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812

SPONSOR: BEEHIIV | BABBEL
Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months

🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/torenberg

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

RELATED EPISODE/S:
Rise of Islam: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rise-of-islam/id1730633913?i=1000659000133

FOLLOW ON X:
@whatifalthist (Rudyard)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@TurpentineMedia


TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:42) African Slave Trade Basics
(01:42) Misconceptions and Context
(03:20) Different African Slave Trades
(03:25) Muslim Slave Trade
(14:19) Sponsor: beehiiv | Babbel
(20:49) Comparisons with the Atlantic Slave Trade
(41:34) Impact of Slavery on America
(55:09) Slavery in Brazil and the Caribbean
(58:30) Book Recommendations
(59:10) Wrap
--
BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

African Founders by David Hackett Fisher

Conquests and Cultures by Thomas Sowell

Africa by John Reeder

Africa and the Africans by John Thornton

  continue reading

297 episodes

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