Ep 129: Frank Gavin on Nuclear Strategy and Ukraine (War in Ukraine #2)

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Frank Gavin, the Giovanni Agnelli Distinguished Professor and inaugural director of the Henry A. Kissinger Center for Global Affairs at Johns Hopkins SAIS and contributor to War in Ukraine: Conflict, Strategy, and the Return of a Fractured World, joins the show to talk about nuclear strategy and the war in Ukraine.

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• 01:36 Introduction

• 01:53 What are nuclear weapons for?

• 04:15 Pervasive but not used

• 09:53 Invasion insurance

• 17:58 Better to be near-nuclear

• 22:26 How might Putin use nuclear weapons?

• 26:04 Learning by doing

• 33:48 “It’s all happening at once”

• 41:31 Rattling the saber works

• 48:04 “We will get them back”

• 50:07 History and Strategy

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