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Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

1 Getting to Yes, And… | Olga Khazan – ‘Me, But Better: The Science and Promise of Personality Change’
Kelly connects with The Atlantic journalist Olga Khazan whose new book, “Me, But Better: The Science and Promise of Personality Change,” follows her as she attempts to change her own personality including taking improv classes in order to boost her extroversion. https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7316603/Olga_Khazan_2025-03-11-033203.64kmono.mp3 “Improv taught me I can rely on others to supply their side of the interaction.” “Behaving against our natures doesn’t bother us as much as we fear it might.” “In improv, as in life, sometimes it helps to just make a choice, weird though it might be.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Kelly welcomes Martha Jones back to the podcast. She is the Society of Black Alumni Presidential Professor and professor of history at the SNF Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University. We spoke to her last about her book “Vanguard.” Her new book is called “The Trouble of Color: An American Family Memoir.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7304343/Martha_Jones_2025-03-03-041943.64kmono.mp3 “So much of the historical record was written with silence.” “I discovered my faith in the capacity of words to help me know myself and the people who made me.” “This book is a dialogue with my family. It is also a dialogue with those who write about the past in which my family made its way.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly connects with Dannagal Goldthwaite Young, a professor in the Department of Communication at the University of Delaware. Her research interests include political media effects, public opinion, political satire and the psychology of political humor. Her books include Irony and Outrage and Wrong. She’s also an improviser. https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7296404/Dannagal_Young_2025-02-25-161504.64kmono.mp3 “First rule of comedy: know your audience.” “We – all of us – are wrong about lots of things.” “Confident humility is a corrective lens.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly talks to University of Michigan Professor Ethan Kross about his new book: “Shift: Managing Your Emotions – So They Don’t Manage You.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7290662/Ethan_Kross_2025-02-20-195902.64kmono.mp3 “Emotions aren’t good or bad; they are just information.” “There are things you can control and things you can’t. Emotions are both.” “The effect music has on our emotions feels like magic.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly goes behind the scenes of Alzheimer’s research with science writer Charles Piller whose new book is called “Doctored: Fraud, Arrogance, and Tragedy in the Quest to Cure Alzheimer’s.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7286575/charles_Piller_2025-02-18-161415.64kmono.mp3 “Disproving someone else’s experiment can be a death wish in science.” “Most academic bio-scientists depend on the National Institute of Health to keep the lights on.” “Eleven of sixteen FDA medical examiners who worked on twenty-eight drug approvals left the agency to become employees or consultants for the companies they recently regulated.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly hosts a special Valentine’s Day Bonus Pod with professors Eli Finkel and Paul Eastwick who host the “Love Factually” podcast. Eli and Paul are relationship scientists at Northwestern and The University of California, Davis. Their podcast looks at a modern romantic comedy each week through the lens of the science of relationships. https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7282392/Eli_Finkel_and_Paul_Eastwick_2025-02-14-045832.64kmono.mp3 “Relationship outcomes depend not only on the specific qualities of each partner but also on the unique patterns that emerge when the partners’ qualities intersect.” “There isn’t just one true and proper way to love, to relate, to bond, to touch.” “Motivated reasoning is a cognitive process where people use reason to support their existing beliefs or desires and lay at the heart of ‘When Harry Met Sally.’” Recent Posts The Chicago Way with John Kass Kass: Lipson on the truth about ‘free speech’ on campus .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Kass: When fools rush in…and out .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Kass: Miranda ‘Bulldog’ Devine on Trump’s 2nd 1st month .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Kass: The fall of Madigan and revival of Blago? .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Chicago Way w/John Kass: The Messianic Complex .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly connects with Dr. Steven J. Heine, Professor of Social and Cultural Psychology at the University of British Columbia. They discuss his new book, “Start Making Sense: How Existential Psychology Can Help Build Meaningful Lives in Absurd Times.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7275982/Dr_Steven_J_Heine_-_Start_Making_Sense_2025-02-11-061822.64kmono.mp3 “The world seems confusing, and people no longer seem to agree on the basic facts of what is happening around them.” “In many ways our learning is facilitated through stories.” “We risk a lot if we’re unable to weave all the different threads of our self together.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Kelly talks about workplace fairness with Harvard’s Siri Chilazi, who co-wrote the book “Make Work Fair: Data-Driven Design for Real Results” with Iris Bohnet. https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7258947/Siri_Chilazi_2025-02-04-163847.64kmono.mp3 “Very few people are against fairness, but we don’t all agree on what it entails.” “The biggest determinant of remote work is education.” “Bias from above is complemented by bias from below.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly converses with Kalifa Oliver, an international experience coach, executive advisor, keynote speaker, author and expert in building brilliant experiences using people-centered design and analytics. Her new book is called, “I Think I Love My Job: Secrets to Designing a People-Centered Employer Value Proposition (That You Can Actually Boast About.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7173459/kalifa_Oliver_2025-01-28-062459.64kmono.mp3 “You simply cannot predict the human experience.” “Your employees are another set of customers.” “Culture cannot just be shaped from the top. It starts at the bottom.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

1 Getting to Yes, And… | Alison Wood Brooks – ‘TALK: The Science of Conversation and the Art of Being Ourselves’
Kelly connects with Harvard professor Alison Wood Brooks, who studies the science of conversation. Her new book is called “TALK: The Science of Conversation and the Art of Being Ourselves.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7156087/Alison_Wood_Brooks_2025-01-20-003827.64kmono.mp3 “Conversation is an ongoing act of co-creation.” “We’re all making it up as we go along.” “People who ask more questions are better liked.”…
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Kelly sits down with Kurt Gray, a professor in psychology and neuroscience at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, where he directs the Deepest Beliefs Lab and the Center for the Science of Moral Understanding. He has a new book, “Outraged: Why We Fight About Morality and Politics and How to Find Common Ground.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7148156/Kurt_Gray_2025-01-14-154556.64kmono.mp3 “It feels like we are at war.” “It is true: we are safer today than we were at the dawn of humanity. But we don’t feel safer.” “If other people’s pain is like a whisper on the wind, our own pain is a scream in our ear.”…
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Kelly connects with Dr. Sunita Sah, an award-winning professor at Corenell University and an expert in organizational psychology. She is also a trained physician, who practiced medicine in the UK. She has a new book, it’s called “Defy: The Power of No in a World That Demands Yes.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7148144/Dr_Sunita_Sah_2025-01-14-150444.64kmono.mp3 “A True no is a process, not a snap judgment.” “Defiance first requires that we know our values.” “Curiosity can be an effective way to approach others, opening pathways to change.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly starts the new year talking about effective communication skills with Michael Chad Hoeppner, CEO and founder of GK Training. He teaches his unique approach to communications at Columbia University Business School in the PhD and MBA programs and coaches the faculty. He has a new book, “Don’t Say Um: How to Communicate Effectively to Live a Better Life.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7136742/7136742_2025-01-06-172642.64kmono.mp3 “Speaking is not a sidecar to being human.” “Great communication is you, when you are at your most other-focused.” “Speaking is actually closer to an athletic event than a decision-tree flowchart of ideas.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly sits down with Richard Cytowic, MD, Professor of Neurology at George Washington University and the author of “Your Stone Age Brain in the Screen Age.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7117528/7117528_2024-12-18-185628.64kmono.mp3 “Screens act like secondhand smoke.” “Waldorf Schools may be the best kept secret in education.” “You cannot rush learning any more than you can accelerate thinking.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly talks to Aylon Samouha, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Transcend Education. Previously he served as Chief Schools Officer at Rocketship Education. He is the co-author of “Extraordinary Learning for All: How Communities Design Schools Where Everyone Thrives.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7117505/7117505_2024-12-18-181105.64kmono.mp3 “Students today report higher levels of stress and anxiety than ever before.” “Employability is based on more than technical skills alone.” “Let us be clear: leadership is not the same as occupying a position of authority.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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To celebrate The Second City’s 65th anniversary, Kelly sits down with the members of the legendary theatre’s creative leadership team to talk about how each of them found their way to The Second City. https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7114128/Second_City_s_Creative_Leadership_Team_-_Happy_Birthday_Second_City__2024-12-16-210828.64kmono.mp3 “Ensemble lay at the heart of the work at Second City.” “The Second City’s creative process is sacred to the work done on its stages and in its classrooms.” “As Alison Riley used to say, at The Second City – two wrongs make a tradition.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly connects with Bob Moesta, founder, maker, innovator, speaker, and professor. He is the president and founder of The Re-Wired Group, as well as an adjunct lecturer at the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern and a research fellow at the Clayton Christensen Institute. He is the author of Choosing College (with Michael Horn), Demand-Side Sales 101 , and Learning to Build . His latest book is co-written with Ethan Bernstein and Michael Horn, it’s called “Job Moves: 9 Steps for Making Progress in Your Career.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7105090/Bob_Moesta_2024-12-10-175630.64kmono.mp3 “Switching jobs isn’t random or independent from the experiences you’ve had in the past.” “A fear of the unknown future creates friction that can thwart movement toward a new role.” “Without any context wrapped around it, money is just a feature. It’s not the underlying reason to change jobs.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly sits down with Stephan Meier, the James P. Gorman Professor of Business Strategy and the chair of the management division at Columbia Business School. Previously, Meier worked at the Center for Behavioral Economics and Decision-Making at the Federal Reserve Bank. HIs new book is called “The Employee Advantage: How Putting Workers First Helps Business Thrive.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7087727/Stephan_Meier_2024-11-26-021827.64kmono.mp3 “Just talking to the same people is not a recipe for generating ideas.” “Happier employees are more productive employees.” “It’s hard to incentivize innovation.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly connects with Ravin Jesuthasan, a recognized futurist and authority on the future of work, human capital and automation. He is Senior Partner and Global Leader for Transformation Services at Mercer and a member of the World Economic Forum’s steering committee on work and employment. He is the author of many books and his latest is called “The Skills-Powered Organization.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7086026/Ravin_Jesuthasan_2024-11-25-020926.64kmono.mp3 “The future lies in a combination of technical skills and human skills.” “Traditional four-year degrees are no longer seen as the only path to a successful career.” “Technology is, to an extent, only an enabler.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly sits down with Alok Sama, the former President and CFO of SoftBank Group International to discuss his new book ‘The Money Trap: Lost Illusions Inside the Tech Bubble.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7078709/alok_sama_2024-11-19-170909.64kmono.mp3 “Impressing powerful men is a core skill for investment bankers.” “The world romanticizes the causal relationship between adversity and breakout success.” “Money doesn’t talk, it swears.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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1 Getting to Yes, And… | David Livermore – ‘Leading with Cultural Intelligence: The Real Secret to Success’
Kelly welcomes Boston University professor David Livermore back to the podcast to discuss the latest edition of his successful leadership book, “Leading with Cultural Intelligence: The Real Secret to Success.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7067167/David_Livermore_2024-11-11-162307.64kmono.mp3 “I sometimes ask executives, ‘Will anyone tell you your joke isn’t funny?’” “At its core, culture intelligence is about how we connect with another as humans.” “Words are never just words. Their meaning is always rooted in context.”…
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Kelly sits down with old friend Mike Thomas to talk about “Carson the Magnificent,” a book about the iconic talk show host Johnny Carson. The legendary Bill Zehme began the book but never finished it. Years after Bill’s death, Mike was brought on board to complete the book. https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7020407/mike_thomas_2024-11-04-153007.64kmono.mp3 “And so, like sun and moon and oxygen and ionosphere, Johnny Carson was always there, reliable and steadfast.” “He was also mothered by omission.” “Work was easy for him, family was not.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly talks with Lindsey Cormack, a tenured professor of Political Science at Stevens Institute of Technology about her latest book “How to Raise a Citizen (And Why It’s Up to You to Do It).” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7020387/Lindsey_Cormack_2024-11-04-154927.64kmono.mp3 “Politics doesn’t have to feel as dire as it sometimes does.” “The system of voting is too complicated.” “It’s hard to trust something you don’t know a lot about.”…
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Kelly connects with journalist Sarah Jaffe who wrote the best seller “Work Won’t Love You Back.” They talk about her new book “From The Ashes: Grief and Revolution in a World on Fire.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7008702/Sarah_Jaffe_2024-10-28-162602.64kmono.mp3 “In accepting loss we make possible the future.” “We carry our ghosts with us everywhere.” “There is no love without pain or loss; this is what grief taught me.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Kelly talks to business leader, author and podcast host Mo Bunnell about his new book, “Give to Grow: Invest in Relationships to Build Your Business and Your Career.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6999921/Mo_Bunnel__2024-10-22-002021.64kmono.mp3 “It’s amazing how creative we can be to avoid acting.” “Showing someone attention is one of the most meaningful things you can do.” “Top performers fall in love with their client’s problems, not their own solutions.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Kelly connects with Michael Morris of Columbia University to talk about his timely book “Tribal: How the Cultural Instincts That Divide Us Can Help Bring Us Together.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6984190/Michael_Morris_2024-10-14-161430.64kmono.mp3 “Tribal living is what made us truly human.” “Our species became wiser thanks to our tribes.” “Killing the old culture happens top-down, then building the new culture happens bottom-up.”…
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Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Kelly connects with Karen Brooks Hopkins, the former president of the Brooklyn Academy of Music (BAM), to discuss her book “BAM…And Then It Hit Me” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6847911/Karen_Brooks_Hopkins_2024-10-08-042811.64kmono.mp3 “In an odd way, there is a kind of nobility in fundraising.” “The first thing you need to know about fundraising is that it’s not brain surgery. It’s harder than brain surgery.” “Good service is everything. No one gives you money to sit in lousy seats.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Kelly welcomes Dr. Kathleen Smith back to the podcast. Dr. Smith is a licensed therapist and associate faculty member of the Bowen Center for Study of the Family. She is the author of “Everything Isn’t Terrible.” Her new book is called “True to You: A Therapist’s Guide to Stop Pleasing Others and Start Being Yourself.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6468312/Dr_Kathleen_Smith_2024-09-19-034212.64kmono.mp3 “We look to others to find ourselves.” “When our fate depends on other people changing, we get stuck.” “Sometimes humor is the best way to share your thinking, and sometimes it isn’t.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Kelly talks to former FBI Hostage Negotiator Chip Massey about his new book “Convince Me: High-Stakes Negotiation Tactics to Get Results in Any Business Situation.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6468167/Chip_Massey_2024-09-19-035007.64kmono.mp3 “You may have truth on your side, but persuasion does not hinge on what is true.” “Business is all about give and take, but there is a shelf life for an ask.” “Sharing your ups and downs makes you instantly more convincing.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” The Science and Promise of Personality Change .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martha Jones – ‘The Trouble of Color’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Dannagal Young – ‘Improv, Media and Disinformation’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Ethan Kross – ‘Shift’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Getting to Yes, And… | Charles Piller – ‘Doctored’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more…
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Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Kelly connects with Yumi Kendall , Assistant Principal cellist for the Philadelphia Orchestra to talk about the power of the arts and her experiences as a student in the Waldorf educational system. https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6431947/Yumi_Kendall_2024-09-16-000647.64kmono.mp3 “I didn’t decide until the day after my SATs, because all of my friends were working on their personal essays and I thought, ‘My personal essay is cello,'” “Music is a medium of awe that helps make sense of life’s wonders.” “I feel like sound is texture. Sound is feeling like I mean, feeling on my skin, like how soft cashmere feels is how it. That’s my experience, that’s my lived experience. “…
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