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2312 Episode 10: "Swan in the Vulcanoids" to "Wahram on Earth": Political Economy, Aggressive Charity, Gifts

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We start with more news from Maine: There's lithium in them thar hills! Will Elon Musk coup the governor? Stay tuned, and find out more here. We ask whether it's possible to extract these important minerals outside the demands of capital and profit, and to do it in a way that doesn't wreck the environment or the bodies of the people who will have to do this labor. We have no answers, just want to know!

Then, back to 2312. We talk a lot about the political economies of the various powers in the solar system, as the various plotlines and threads seem to start coming together and getting clearer in this chunk of chapters. How does the gift economy of the Vulcanoids and the Saturn League work? Why does the mute compulsion of economic relations still obtain on Venus? What is to be done with Earth? What's the difference between charity and a gift economy? Is charity always aggressive? What kind of revolution are Swan and Wahram driving at? We'll find out next time!

Swan in the Vulcanoids – 35:00

Lists (11) – 54:10

Wahram on Venus - 55:07

Extracts (13) – 1:09:10

Kiran in Vinmara – 1:10:35

Extracts (14) – 1:15:50

Here's a recent Jacobin piece on the hierarchy of needs, and here's the text Hilary mentions at the beginning, A World Without Money: Communism.

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Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com

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We start with more news from Maine: There's lithium in them thar hills! Will Elon Musk coup the governor? Stay tuned, and find out more here. We ask whether it's possible to extract these important minerals outside the demands of capital and profit, and to do it in a way that doesn't wreck the environment or the bodies of the people who will have to do this labor. We have no answers, just want to know!

Then, back to 2312. We talk a lot about the political economies of the various powers in the solar system, as the various plotlines and threads seem to start coming together and getting clearer in this chunk of chapters. How does the gift economy of the Vulcanoids and the Saturn League work? Why does the mute compulsion of economic relations still obtain on Venus? What is to be done with Earth? What's the difference between charity and a gift economy? Is charity always aggressive? What kind of revolution are Swan and Wahram driving at? We'll find out next time!

Swan in the Vulcanoids – 35:00

Lists (11) – 54:10

Wahram on Venus - 55:07

Extracts (13) – 1:09:10

Kiran in Vinmara – 1:10:35

Extracts (14) – 1:15:50

Here's a recent Jacobin piece on the hierarchy of needs, and here's the text Hilary mentions at the beginning, A World Without Money: Communism.

Thanks for listening!

Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com

Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars

Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app

Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts!

Music by Spirit of Space

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