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ESB 22: An Editor’s Film (Minutes 106-110 with Dan Golding)
Manage episode 360280361 series 2872248
Dan Golding is here to discuss minutes 106-110 of The Empire Strikes Back! We talk about Ben Burtt's frustrations, intense pedal points, a nasal brass canon, free fanfares, Empire being an "editor's film," and how the music is "meanwhile" (sounds strange, but it'll make sense when you listen to the episode). 😅
Timestamps:
- 0:00 - Hello there!
- 7:05 - Ben Burtt's frustrations, Irvin Kershner's on-set mic, David Prowse's fitness book, and other delights from Alan Arnold's Journal of the Making of Empire Strikes Back.
- 17:51 - Cool tunnel. Gareth Edwards's "indie hour."
- 22:42 - Misty, foggy, smoky.
- 29:13 - Empire is an editor's film.
- 30:39 - Meanwhile...
- 43:14 - Dark Side motif and a high, strained tuba.
- 50:04 - Force buzz.
- 1:10:09 - Luke's little chaos clarinet.
- 1:17:59 - Ben Burtt on creating the wind sounds.
- 1:29:26 - Canon with nasal, muted brass, stressed, compressed Yoda's theme.
- 1:38:39 - Lando, from cad to hero.
- 1:50:29 - Harmonic fudge?
- 2:00:32 - Han and Leia theme sounds different here, for many reasons.
- 2:09:47 - Willrow Hood sighting.
- 2:11:00 - A fanfare for free.
- 2:21:39 - "Wonderful!" Rhythm restored. Earnest strings. G pedal point.
- 2:30:45 - Use of Han and Leia's theme in The Force Awakens trailer.
- 2:37:52 - Pseudo Dies Irae.
- 2:40:00 - Return of the pedal. Jazzy voicings.
- 2:49:18 - Shoutout to Dennis Hamm.
- 3:00:39 - 15 Second Rule.
- 3:07:26 - A surprise in the very final frame of these minutes.
- 3:16:02 - SWMM Questionnaire
Things to Check Out:
- Once Upon a Galaxy: A Journal of the Making of Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (by Alan Arnold) - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1960717.Once_Upon_a_Galaxy
- Dan's article about George Lucas as a director (Sense of Cinema): http://www.sensesofcinema.com/2021/great-directors/lucas-george/
- Untitled Goose Game soundtrack (by Dan Golding)
- Art of the Score: The Empire Strikes Back – Part 1: http://www.artofthescore.com.au/podcast/2019/5/23/episode-27-the-empire-strikes-back-part-1
- Art of the Score: The Empire Strikes Back – Part 2: http://www.artofthescore.com.au/podcast/2019/8/31/episode-28-the-empire-strikes-back-part-2
- Hollywood Harmony: Musical Wonder and the Sound of Cinema (by Frank Lehman) - https://franklehman.com/hollywood-harmony/
- The Planets - VI. Uranus, the Magician - Gustav Holst https://youtube.com/watch?v=fUyVFKA1MaU
- Partita for 8 Voices (by Caroline Shaw) - https://youtu.be/ab4zTQEsnBk
- Solo 13: Millennium Pop Anthem (Minutes 61-65 with Dan Golding) - https://youtu.be/lJeA6qqXqng
- ANH 18: The Swashbucklers (Minutes 86-90 with Dan Golding) - https://youtu.be/5xFFLXruO0Y
- Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/.
Cues:
- 11M1 "Through The Window"
Musical Themes:
- Imperial March (Theme)
- Dark Side (Motif)
- Chromatic Knell
- Yoda (A Section)
- Cloud City (Lando's Palace)
- Han & Leia (A)
Where are we in the soundtrack?:
- "The Clash of Lightsabers"
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STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE:
1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like?
- New answer: Elegant musical storytelling.
- Previous answers: Nimble orchestral nostalgia. Mythic orchestral memory.
2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about?
- New answer: The unreleased music (and alternate cues, etc).
- Previous answers: What will Natalie Holt's soundtrack for the Obi-Wan Kenobi series sound like? Given all the new directions that various Star Wars scores have gone since John Williams was at the helm (ex. Solo: A Star Wars Story, The Mandalorian, The Book of Boba Fett, etc), will we ever return to the original sort of orchestral sound?
3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars?
- New answer: Fleishman Is in Trouble (composed by Caroline Shaw)
- Previous answers: Watership Down (composed by Angela Morley) and Vertigo (composed by Bernard Herrmann).
---------------
Guest: Dan Golding
- Website: https://dangolding.com/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/dangolding
- Art of the Score podcast: https://www.artofthescore.com.au/
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanGoldingVideoEssays
- Bandcamp: https://dangolding.bandcamp.com/
- Mastadon: @dangolding@mastodon.social
- Book: Star Wars After Lucas by Dan Golding: https://dangolding.com/star-wars-after-lucas/
------------------
Join my Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan
Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show... https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink
Where else to find SWMM:
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin
- YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute
- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute?
- Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute
- Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com
- Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin
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Manage episode 360280361 series 2872248
Dan Golding is here to discuss minutes 106-110 of The Empire Strikes Back! We talk about Ben Burtt's frustrations, intense pedal points, a nasal brass canon, free fanfares, Empire being an "editor's film," and how the music is "meanwhile" (sounds strange, but it'll make sense when you listen to the episode). 😅
Timestamps:
- 0:00 - Hello there!
- 7:05 - Ben Burtt's frustrations, Irvin Kershner's on-set mic, David Prowse's fitness book, and other delights from Alan Arnold's Journal of the Making of Empire Strikes Back.
- 17:51 - Cool tunnel. Gareth Edwards's "indie hour."
- 22:42 - Misty, foggy, smoky.
- 29:13 - Empire is an editor's film.
- 30:39 - Meanwhile...
- 43:14 - Dark Side motif and a high, strained tuba.
- 50:04 - Force buzz.
- 1:10:09 - Luke's little chaos clarinet.
- 1:17:59 - Ben Burtt on creating the wind sounds.
- 1:29:26 - Canon with nasal, muted brass, stressed, compressed Yoda's theme.
- 1:38:39 - Lando, from cad to hero.
- 1:50:29 - Harmonic fudge?
- 2:00:32 - Han and Leia theme sounds different here, for many reasons.
- 2:09:47 - Willrow Hood sighting.
- 2:11:00 - A fanfare for free.
- 2:21:39 - "Wonderful!" Rhythm restored. Earnest strings. G pedal point.
- 2:30:45 - Use of Han and Leia's theme in The Force Awakens trailer.
- 2:37:52 - Pseudo Dies Irae.
- 2:40:00 - Return of the pedal. Jazzy voicings.
- 2:49:18 - Shoutout to Dennis Hamm.
- 3:00:39 - 15 Second Rule.
- 3:07:26 - A surprise in the very final frame of these minutes.
- 3:16:02 - SWMM Questionnaire
Things to Check Out:
- Once Upon a Galaxy: A Journal of the Making of Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (by Alan Arnold) - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1960717.Once_Upon_a_Galaxy
- Dan's article about George Lucas as a director (Sense of Cinema): http://www.sensesofcinema.com/2021/great-directors/lucas-george/
- Untitled Goose Game soundtrack (by Dan Golding)
- Art of the Score: The Empire Strikes Back – Part 1: http://www.artofthescore.com.au/podcast/2019/5/23/episode-27-the-empire-strikes-back-part-1
- Art of the Score: The Empire Strikes Back – Part 2: http://www.artofthescore.com.au/podcast/2019/8/31/episode-28-the-empire-strikes-back-part-2
- Hollywood Harmony: Musical Wonder and the Sound of Cinema (by Frank Lehman) - https://franklehman.com/hollywood-harmony/
- The Planets - VI. Uranus, the Magician - Gustav Holst https://youtube.com/watch?v=fUyVFKA1MaU
- Partita for 8 Voices (by Caroline Shaw) - https://youtu.be/ab4zTQEsnBk
- Solo 13: Millennium Pop Anthem (Minutes 61-65 with Dan Golding) - https://youtu.be/lJeA6qqXqng
- ANH 18: The Swashbucklers (Minutes 86-90 with Dan Golding) - https://youtu.be/5xFFLXruO0Y
- Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/.
Cues:
- 11M1 "Through The Window"
Musical Themes:
- Imperial March (Theme)
- Dark Side (Motif)
- Chromatic Knell
- Yoda (A Section)
- Cloud City (Lando's Palace)
- Han & Leia (A)
Where are we in the soundtrack?:
- "The Clash of Lightsabers"
---------------
STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE:
1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like?
- New answer: Elegant musical storytelling.
- Previous answers: Nimble orchestral nostalgia. Mythic orchestral memory.
2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about?
- New answer: The unreleased music (and alternate cues, etc).
- Previous answers: What will Natalie Holt's soundtrack for the Obi-Wan Kenobi series sound like? Given all the new directions that various Star Wars scores have gone since John Williams was at the helm (ex. Solo: A Star Wars Story, The Mandalorian, The Book of Boba Fett, etc), will we ever return to the original sort of orchestral sound?
3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars?
- New answer: Fleishman Is in Trouble (composed by Caroline Shaw)
- Previous answers: Watership Down (composed by Angela Morley) and Vertigo (composed by Bernard Herrmann).
---------------
Guest: Dan Golding
- Website: https://dangolding.com/
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/dangolding
- Art of the Score podcast: https://www.artofthescore.com.au/
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanGoldingVideoEssays
- Bandcamp: https://dangolding.bandcamp.com/
- Mastadon: @dangolding@mastodon.social
- Book: Star Wars After Lucas by Dan Golding: https://dangolding.com/star-wars-after-lucas/
------------------
Join my Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan
Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show... https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink
Where else to find SWMM:
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin
- YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute
- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute?
- Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute
- Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com
- Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin
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