Episode 31 - Self-Advocacy

Emergency Protocol

As Denise juggles a hectic schedule and prepares to host a sober retreat, Jackie continues to feel not okay. They discuss the infinite shapes anxiety and depression can take in people and how it defies logical sense. Jackie shares her recent experience of surrendering and asking for help, making doctor’s appointments, and switching medication. There are a lot of factors to consider when switching medication, and Jackie explains her anxieties around a few of them.

Denise suggests reframing some of Jackie’s fears about the future. Being present can feel like the safest place to live, though it is often the hardest place to find. Sometimes, taking medication helps Jackie to find that present place. The bottom line is that change can be hard, really hard. In those times, there’s nothing wrong with external validation. That can take the form of affirmations from friends and family to getting an achievement chip at an AA meeting.

Ultimately, Jackie’s willingness to try medication again is a win. Every small step towards change is a win. Denise and Jackie wrap the episode by celebrating that win and giving loving affirmations to the audience.

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Topics Covered:

• 00:22 Denise has been busy!
• 04:25 Acknowledging negatives and positives
• 07:45 Depression and obsession
• 16:25 Looking for community
• 18:29 Anxieties about new medication
• 25:25 Fears of the future
• 34:27 Change is hard!

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