Emergency Protocol deep-dives into Denise and Jackie Freed’s toolkit for living - The 12 Steps Reimagined. This mother-daughter duo discusses mental health, mental illness, recovery, sobriety, anxiety, depression, and more. Also featuring guests from their “village” who share their everyday miracles and survival tips, the show aims to provide practical tools, community, and hope to people who say “I’m okay!” but don’t really mean it (and who also need to drink more water).
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Denise shares her last days in the hospital together with her grandmother. While it was heavy and emotional, of course, she explains why she did not feel depleted by the grief. Denise and Jackie discuss the importance of telling the people you love that you love them and the different ways of doing so. Jackie talks about saying goodbye to her grand…
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Denise and Jackie jump right into Jackie’s ADHD diagnosis history and possible signs from her childhood that she had ADHD. They then turn to the upcoming holiday season and the social anxiety often accompanying celebratory gatherings. New situations, in general, can summon socially anxious feelings in even the most outgoing people. Denise shares a …
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Denise and Jackie go in on connection. Denise shares her joyous experience at Godmothers Bookstore, learning from and being in the presence of amazing, powerful women. A part of the joy was from being in a high-functioning third space. As the presidential election draws closer, Denise organizes a get-together with friends to write postcards to swin…
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As the seasons start to shift, so do Denise and Jackie. The pair discuss the upcoming election season, experiences of grief, and Jackie’s ADHD diagnosis. With the bumpy month of August behind them, election season looms. This is a friendly reminder to everyone listening to vote! While Denise and Jackie digress that they don’t have as much time as t…
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After getting a new depression and anxiety prescription in the last episode, Jackie follows up with how she is adjusting. She’s started to make a great effort to get out of the house to be with her friends and shares a strategy she’s using to do that. Meanwhile, Denise has been busy helping her other daughter move, juggling new changes at work, and…
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As Denise juggles a hectic schedule and prepares to host a sober retreat, Jackie continues to feel not okay. They discuss the infinite shapes anxiety and depression can take in people and how it defies logical sense. Jackie shares her recent experience of surrendering and asking for help, making doctor’s appointments, and switching medication. Ther…
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Jackie talks about her recent experience of realizing she needed additional help, selecting a new therapist, signing up for mental health coaching, and obtaining a psychiatrist referral. While taking action is a great first step, that doesn’t mean it feels easy. Denise shares her experiences of seeking help. For her, the waiting game is incredibly …
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For Jackie, summer brings sunny melancholy and big birthday feelings. This year is particularly rough as she acclimates to a changing friend group. Denise finds the birthday season ideal for auditing how aligned her intentions are with her reality, acknowledging, however, that she often has unrealistic expectations for herself. A forever pro to att…
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Denise shares how she maintains her long-standing friendships, many of whom she met through AA. Friendships as a sober person going to meetings are especially important because you become a part of a supportive community and feel welcomed time and time again. Jackie and Denise discuss navigating gossip, secrets, and building trust within friend gro…
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In this current season of financial stress, Jackie is not feeling OK. A lack of financial freedom coupled with grim healthcare options is feeling heavy. In the midst of a cost-of-living and housing crisis, anything beyond our basic needs, like therapy, can feel superfluous. For the first time in a while, Jackie joined Denise at a Twelve Step Meetin…
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Denise and Jackie are back! And they’ve got the blues. They share the highlights and lowlights from their recent trip to Japan, process in real time what they learned from the experience, and offer their strategies for working through depression. Traveling has a funny way of bringing things up, and the duo’s time in Japan was no exception. Denise s…
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Episode 25 - "One Day at a Time" is Too Long
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So much can happen in a day! One of the 12 Step Program’s popular adages, “one day at a time,” can really feel like too long for Jackie. Instead, she finds that sometimes, focusing solely on primal needs, one after the other, one minute at a time, can work better. Denise and Jackie then each share what’s worked and not worked for pulling themselves…
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First, Denise shares how a huge recent work event unfolded in Catalina and how she returned to center amidst the ups and downs. Jackie also experienced a rough week dealing with job rejection and coming to terms with her feelings about living in LA. By focusing on her needs in the present moment, one at a time, she is steadily working her way throu…
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Episode 23 - Feeling "Poopeh" - Emergency Protocol
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Denise and Jackie discuss the “poopeh” incident, moving through uncertainty, and communicating their needs before an upcoming trip. First, Jackie shares a stressful story about what should have been a nice Saturday cycle with her dog that turned out to be a “poopeh” nightmare. She reflects that while she wants to do as much with her aging dog as po…
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Episode 22 - Feeling Itchy - Emergency Protocol
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Denise and Jackie talk about situations that make them feel “itchy,” developing an Emergency Protocol mini workshop, addressing resentments, and using the steps to move forward. Starting off, Denise and Jackie talk about their updates on their new podcast studio and give thanks to those who helped them create their space and also navigate life usin…
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Episode 21 - COVID and Saturn Return - Emergency Protocol
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Denise and Jackie share their COVID Christmas experience, Jackie’s Saturn Return, and taking action to find the ideal lifestyle for you. First, Jackie and Denise reflect on Christmas in the Freed family… featuring COVID-19. Both co-hosts share their experiences and feelings that came along with being sick during the holidays. This spirals into a co…
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Episode 20 - Amends and The Promises - Emergency Protocol
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Denise and Jackie discuss two big amends, The Promises, and personal growth on the other side of resistance. First, Jackie and Denise reflect on big moments in 2023. Jackie shares two big amends from wedding and tax season and the emotion around doing the “hard, but right, thing.” Then, Jackie and Denise share the history of a decades-old Freed Chr…
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Episode 19 - Retreat 2023 - Emergency Protocol
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Denise and Jackie detail their time at a corporate retreat, the process of navigating addictive behaviors, and everyday delights. First, Denise and Jackie update listeners on the past few weeks and their updated episode cadence. This includes Denise’s social capital depletion following Thanksgiving #2. Then, Denise and Jackie dive into their experi…
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Episode 18 - How do you not drink? - Emergency Protocol
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In this episode, Denise and discuss the question, “How do you not drink?” They acknowledge the willingness to make changes to support mental and/or physical wellness and provide tips and tools for the feelings that may arise in response. First, Denise and Jackie acknowledge the heaviness swirling around the world. Denise shares how she has spent 37…
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Episode 17 - A Review of the 12 Steps Reimagined
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Emergency Protocol explores the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) in a way that is accessible to people who aren't addicted, and with gentler and less patriarchal language that still captures the essence of the work. In this episode, Denise and Jackie recap and review each of the 12 steps and share lessons and reflections they've picked up alon…
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Episode 16 - Step 12 - Emergency Protocol
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Today, Denise and Jackie explore the last step in the 12 Steps Reimagined, Step 12, an active choice of being present in response to previous steps. A lot of work has transpired in steps 1–11, so this is a time where leaning into a spiritual practice of love is part of stepping into something bigger. They begin by sharing details and reflections fr…
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Episode 15 - Step 11 - Emergency Protocol
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Today, Denise and Jackie explore Step 11, an active choice of being present in response to previous steps: “We welcome mindfulness, grace, and gratitude into our thoughts and prayers.” Moving forward is only possible if agency is recognized in order to accept things and people as they are, but also put up boundaries where needed in our individual l…
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Episode 14 - Step 10 - Emergency Protocol
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Today, Denise and Jackie unpack Step 10, a culmination of the previous steps to encourage self-awareness and steady growth: "We maintain a daily practice of reflection, amends, and forgiveness." Recovery is an ongoing journey all about refinement and healing. It's like peeling back layers of an onion, and sometimes you might view things differently…
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Episode 13 - Step 9 - Emergency Protocol
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In this episode, Jackie and Denise share how Step 9 is where sh*t gets more real. The steps prior were about inner work and processing, but this step is about ownership and confronting your actions — communicating your accountability to those affected. In the traditional 12 Step model, the 9th step is to “Make direct amends to such people wherever …
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In this episode, Denise and Jackie are discussing the prickly feeling of apologizing for (and then changing) your behavior. In our toolkit for living — the 12 Steps Reimagined — this week’s focus is Step 8: “We list each of the harms we’ve caused that require amends.” It’s important not to let the fear of making the In the traditional 12 Step model…
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Episode 11 - Step 7 - Emergency Protocol
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In this episode, Denise and Jackie open by sharing laughs over social media and how Denise’s post was shared thousands of times. (What does that actually mean?) In our toolkit for living — the 12 Steps Reimagined — this week’s focus is Step 7: “Our actions are based in humility and in the service of our highest and best selves.” In the traditional …
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Episode 10 - Step 6 - Denise and Jackie have a birthday!
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In this episode, Denise and Jackie celebrate a shared birthday (June 14) and reflect on the difference between having a birthday in your 30s vs. fifties. They discuss Step 6: “We trust that we will be guided to recognize thoughts and behaviors that no longer serve us, or the greater good,” which is about recognizing who you are in the world, in res…
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In this episode, Denise and Jackie discuss Step 5: “With vulnerability and integrity, we share this inventory with someone safe and trustworthy.” They share how to prepare for opening up about the list of fears, shames, and resentments that come up during Step 4. In the traditional 12 Step model, a sponsee typically starts the fifth step by sharing…
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Episode 8 - Step 4 (Continued) - Emergency Protocol
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In this episode, Denise and Jackie expand on Step 4: “With courage, honesty, and curiosity, we write the stories of the fears, shame, and resentments we carry with us.” They reflect on what’s come up for them during the inventory process and how it’s revealed different root causes of behavior and thought patterns. Most people would rather do anythi…
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Episode 7 - Step 4 - Emergency Protocol
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On today’s episode Denise and Jackie share their fourth step reimagined, “With courage, honesty, and curiosity, we write the stories of the fears, shame and resentments we carry with us.” Grab your pen and paper, because in this episode Denise and Jackie explain how to take an honest, wholesome, and courageous inventory of yourself. Notoriously kno…
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On today’s episode Denise and Jackie share their second of the Twelve Steps reimagined, “We trust that Something Bigger is taking care of us.” The original wording of Step Three references a capital ‘G’ god, which Denise and Jackie never quite sat comfortably with. In this episode, Jackie unpacks her history of religious influence which stems from …
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Episode 5 - Step 2 - Emergency Protocol
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On today’s episode Denise and Jackie share their second of the Twelve Steps reimagined, “We believe we are worthy of getting better, and that things will get better.” Sometimes life becomes so out of control that the only way we can fix it is by believing in something outside of ourselves. This week, Denise and Jackie talk about how to step out of …
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On today’s episode Denise and Jackie share the first of their Twelve Steps reimagined, “We are not okay. We have not been okay. We are not getting better on our own.” Admitting to ourselves that life has become unmanageable is no easy task, but is absolutely necessary to becoming a better version of ourselves. Denise and Jackie talk about how step …
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Episode 3 - Welcome - Emergency Protocol
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Welcome to Emergency Protocol! A podcast hosted by Denise and Jackie Freed, a mother daughter duo from LA, whose goal is simply to share wisdom and help others. Today’s episode focuses on what brought them to podcasting, unpacking family history, and Denise and Jackie’s individual stories of substance use and abuse. Denise battled substance abuse u…
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Episode 2 - The 12 Steps Reimagined - Emergency Protocol
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Denise and Jackie believe that the Twelve Steps are tools for anyone, not just those battling addiction. On today’s episode, they re-word the Twelve Steps together and dive into how a more modern, inclusive take allows the Steps to guide people into an open, free, and happy life. When Denise suggested to her daughter that she should try out the Twe…
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Welcome to Emergency Protocol! In this episode, mother and daughter Denise and Jackie Freed, share where they’re lives started, where they are now, and how they got here. Ever since she was young, Denise struggled with fitting in, shame, and addiction which ultimately lead her to an unrecognizable version of herself. Now, with the help of the Twelv…
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Welcome to Emergency Protocol, a podcast for people who are stressy and depressy! Hosted by the one and only mother daughter duo, Denise and Jackie Freed. Denise and Jackie are on a mission to share their Twelve Steps reimagined for today’s society while also digging into their bumpy, pothole-ridden, spiritual pasts. They are bringing you along for…
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