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Is it possible to have decent conversations across political differences. Short answer: Yeah!

In this episode, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division.

What Is Discussed

How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations
The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics
Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback
How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree
The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way"
How to recognize when it’s time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance"
Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions

Episode Highlights

⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive
⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them"
⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations
⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees
⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions
⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings
⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments
⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic
⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better
⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work

Featured Quotes

📢 “Give yourself grace. You’re not going to get it right every time.”
📢 “If we ask the right question, it allows that person, instead of being in a posture of combat, to tell their story.”
📢 “Trying to inform, like trying to win, can get in the way of trying to listen.” – Monica Guzmán (as quoted in the episode)
📢 “People are mysteries, not puzzles.” – Monica Guzmán

Resources Mentioned

📖 Books:

I Never Thought of It That Way – by Mónica Guzmán
How to Know a Person – by David Brooks

🌍 Organizations:

The Village Square – Encouraging healthy civic discourse
Braver Angels – Bridging political divides through dialogue

🎥 Watch & Support the Podcast:

YouTube Channel – Subscribe for video content
Patreon – Support the show

Call to Action

If you enjoyed this episode, please consider:
✅ Subscribing to the podcast on your favorite platform
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Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other

7 Tools for Engaging With "Them"

Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other

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published about a year ago

MP3•Episode home

Is it possible to have decent conversations across political differences. Short answer: Yeah!

What Is Discussed

How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations
The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics
Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback
How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree
The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way"
How to recognize when it’s time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance"
Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions

Episode Highlights

Featured Quotes

Resources Mentioned

📖 Books:

I Never Thought of It That Way – by Mónica Guzmán
How to Know a Person – by David Brooks

🌍 Organizations:

The Village Square – Encouraging healthy civic discourse
Braver Angels – Bridging political divides through dialogue

🎥 Watch & Support the Podcast:

YouTube Channel – Subscribe for video content
Patreon – Support the show

Call to Action

Connect With Us on Social Media

@coreysnathan:

Our Sponsors

Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com
Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com

🔹 Now go talk some politics and religion—but with gentleness and respect. 💡

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Mónica Guzmán: Breaking the Cycle of Outrage Through Fearlessly Curious Conversations 1:03:18

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Monica Guzmán, Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, host of A Braver Way podcast, CEO of Reclaim Curiosity, and author of I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times . Monica’s mission is to help bridge America’s political divides through fearless curiosity. With deep reflections on the 2024 election, evolving friendships across ideological lines, and her renewed commitment to bridge building, Monica shares how we can stay grounded and connected—especially when it feels impossible. What We Discuss: How Moni processes political polarization and stays grounded—even when the world feels divided Practical strategies for engaging with people across ideological lines without compromising your values Why shared outrage across political lines can be a gateway to unity The role of empathy, humility, and curiosity in depolarizing conversations How journalists and moderators can better navigate falsehoods without censoring legitimate concerns Episode Highlights: [00:03:00] – Mónica explains how her emotional radar helps her know when to seek out conversations with people who see politics differently. [00:08:00] – Unexpected agreement: conservatives and liberals are both frustrated with Congressional dysfunction and executive overreach. [00:14:00] – Moni shares how talking with people who had different experiences during COVID reshaped her understanding and empathy. [00:21:00] – Corey and Mónica discuss boundaries in bridge building—when is it time to walk away from a relationship? [00:29:00] – Moderating contentious conversations: “police the structure, not the content.” [00:36:00] – The relationship between activism and dialogue—and why one without the other can be reckless or ineffective. [00:46:00] – Tips for recognizing quality journalism and avoiding emotionally manipulative content. [00:56:00] – Mónica’s closing advice: engagement is not endorsement. Curiosity and conversation don’t mean you’re compromising your values. Featured Quotes: “I’ve been persuaded over and over again that positions against mine are not ludicrous.” – Mónica Guzmán “Engagement is not endorsement. Having a conversation doesn’t mean you’re capitulating.” – Mónica Guzmán “Find your edge—and push it. That’s all you need to do to build a bridge.” – Mónica Guzmán “I don't want a decision or a position to get in the way of our relationship. I want to understand it better.” – Corey Nathan Resources Mentioned: I Never Thought of It That Way by Monica Guzmán - moniguzman.com/book Braver Angels - braverangels.org 📣 Call to Action: If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors: Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…

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ICYMI: 7 Tools for Engaging With "Them" 43:54

4 days ago43:54

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Can we bridge the partisan divide and have constructive dialogue about politics and religion with "them" - people who have different beliefs about democracy, politics and religion? Are we able to simply have civil, civic conversations? (We're grateful to have a number of new listeners. So we thought it'd be good to revisit this episode that was first aired just after the inauguration.) In this edition, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it’s time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes 📢 “Give yourself grace. You’re not going to get it right every time.” 📢 “If we ask the right question, it allows that person, instead of being in a posture of combat, to tell their story.” 📢 “Trying to inform, like trying to win, can get in the way of trying to listen.” – Monica Guzmán (as quoted in the episode) 📢 “People are mysteries, not puzzles.” – Monica Guzmán Resources Mentioned 📖 Books: I Never Thought of It That Way – by Mónica Guzmán How to Know a Person – by David Brooks 🌍 Organizations: The Village Square – Encouraging healthy civic discourse Braver Angels – Bridging political divides through dialogue 🎥 Watch & Support the Podcast: YouTube Channel – Subscribe for video content Patreon – Support the show 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com 🔹 Now go talk some politics and religion—but with gentleness and respect. 💡 #Politics #Religion #NeverTrump #Democracy #Faith #Justice #Civility #Polarization…

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A Frank Discussion on American Politics with an "Untethered Expat" Originally from Bucks County PA 1:28:36

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan reconnects with his longtime friend Gary Keifer, an expat currently living in Peru. Gary brings a refreshingly honest and “untethered” perspective to U.S. politics, unfiltered by party loyalty or institutional affiliation. With a background in comedy, improv, and theater, Gary offers thoughtful insights rooted in personal experience and global observations. The conversation spans topics from immigration and working-class politics to why Gary abstained from discussing American politics for years—until now. Together, Corey and Gary exemplify what it means to engage in civil discourse across ideological lines. What We Discuss: Why Gary calls himself an "untethered expat" and what that means for his political views. How the Clinton-era Democratic strategy toward the working class contributed to the rise of Trump. Why immigration is the central issue Gary believes needs urgent resolution—and how both parties have failed on it. The limitations of elite political commentary and the value of everyday perspectives. Why Trump’s populism appeals to working-class voters despite his billionaire status. The potential dangers of overreaching political mandates and ignoring opposing voices. Episode Highlights: [00:02:00] – Corey introduces Gary, a longtime friend with a unique expat perspective on U.S. politics. [00:04:30] – Gary explains his belief in choosing “common people” over public figures for meaningful conversations. [00:08:00] – Why Gary broke his two-year vow of not discussing U.S. politics. [00:10:30] – How Bill Clinton’s shift away from labor shaped modern political realignment. [00:16:00] – A comedic (and thought-provoking) take on Trump’s origin story and Steve Bannon’s influence. [00:30:00] – Gary criticizes both parties for exploiting immigration and creating a caste system. [00:34:00] – Corey and Gary analyze Biden’s early decisions and whether reversing Trump-era immigration policies was a political mistake. [00:45:00] – The bipartisan immigration deal Trump blocked—and what it reveals about political strategy. [01:00:00] – Gary pleads: “Just give Trump the win on immigration so we can move on.” Featured Quotes: “Fascism doesn't just appear out of nowhere. It fills a void left by something else.” – Gary Keifer “You can’t skip Chapter One of fascism—how we got here matters.” – Gary Keifer “Compromise is the substrate of democracy.” – Corey Nathan “At the end of the day, we're just regular guys trying to have conversations most people are avoiding.” – Corey Nathan 📣 Call to Action: If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors: Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…

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Speaking Truth to Power (and to the Pews): Peter Wehner on the Evangelical Vote and America's Future 55:54

10 days ago55:54

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In this conversation, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Peter Wehner, contributing writer at The Atlantic and The New York Times , senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, and author of multiple books including The Death of Politics and City of Man . A former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, Pete brings a unique perspective shaped by his deep political experience, Christian faith, and unwavering moral compass. Together, Corey and Pete engage in a wide-ranging conversation on the 2024 election, the moral health of our nation, the role of the church, and the constitutional implications of a second Trump presidency. What We Discuss: How Pete Wehner processed the pivotal moments of the 2024 election, including Biden’s withdrawal and Kamala Harris’s campaign Why Donald Trump’s reelection reveals unsettling truths about American society and the church How constitutional crises might unfold under Trump’s second term Why thinkers like Vaclav Havel, Solzhenitsyn, and Tocqueville are essential guides in this political moment How to have more effective and empathetic conversations across political and religious divides Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] – Introduction to Pete Wehner’s background and career [00:02:00] – Pete reflects on Biden’s debate performance and why he felt Biden should have withdrawn sooner [00:05:00] – Analysis of Kamala Harris’s campaign, debate performance, and what ultimately cost her the election [00:09:00] – The moral reckoning: what Trump’s reelection says about American voters and the church [00:14:00] – Pete dissects why evangelicals have remained loyal to Trump and how rationalizations took hold [00:27:00] – A 30-page email exchange: Pete’s attempt to reason with a high-profile Trump supporter and what it revealed [00:34:00] – Trump’s “appetite for revenge”: Pete outlines troubling actions already taken in just 60 days of Trump’s second term [00:41:00] – Defining a constitutional crisis and what happens when a president defies court rulings [00:46:00] – Finding hope and moral clarity through leaders like Havel, Solzhenitsyn, and Tocqueville [00:50:00] – The TP&R question: Pete's insights on how to build better conversations across our differences Featured Quotes: “Donald Trump is president because of the white evangelical vote. He touched something deep in the hearts of many Christians—and that should trouble us.” – Peter Wehner “Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well; it’s the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out.” – Vaclav Havel (quoted by Pete) “We're moving toward a constitutional crisis... If Trump defies a court order, we may find out how many divisions Chief Justice John Roberts really has.” – Peter Wehner “We have to prioritize human relationships. The ripple effects for the country can be healthy.” – Peter Wehner Resources Mentioned: Peter Wehner’s articles in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/peter-wehner/ Peter Wehner’s columns in The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/column/peter-wehner “The Power of the Powerless” by Vaclav Havel: https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/resource/the-power-of-the-powerless/ The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: https://www.amazon.com/Gulag-Archipelago-1918-1956-Experiment-Investigation/dp/0061253804 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/815/815-h/815-h.htm 📣 Call to Action: If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors: Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…

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Beyond Arguments: Setting Boundaries and Clearing the Brush for Civil Political and Religious Conversations 38:26

13 days ago38:26

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In this episode, we explore some essential tools for navigating difficult conversations in today’s polarized world. After all, we are part of The Democracy Group ! And our goal with TDG and this program is to foster respectful, insightful discussions on politics, religion, and other sensitive topics—without resorting to hostility. In this solo episode, Corey shares practical strategies for setting boundaries, "clearing the brush" (i.e. assumptions), and focusing on meaningful conversations rather than debates. 📌 What We Discuss: ✅ Why having clear boundaries is crucial for productive dialogue ✅ How to recognize and avoid being drawn into unproductive interrogations ✅ The importance of "clearing the brush" (i.e. assumptions) and engaging in genuine conversations ✅ Why listening and storytelling are more powerful than debating facts ✅ How building relationships—not just “winning” arguments—creates lasting change ⏳ Episode Highlights: 🕒 [00:00:00] – Welcome & Calls to Action: Corey shares updates on YouTube, podcast subscriptions, and Patreon. 🕒 [00:06:00] – The Big Question: How do we engage in tough conversations without falling into arguments? 🕒 [00:07:00] – Setting Boundaries: Recognizing when a conversation is an interrogation vs. a genuine exchange. 🕒 [00:10:00] – Admitting Limitations: The power of saying, "I’m not an expert." 🕒 [00:14:00] – No Need to Defend What You Don’t Believe: Why you don’t have to argue every point. 🕒 [00:21:00] – Clearing the Brush: Breaking down stereotypes and assumptions before real discussions can begin. 🕒 [00:26:00] – Seeking Conversations, Not Contests: The difference between dialogue and debate. 🕒 [00:32:00] – The Daryl Davis Approach: How listening has led KKK members to renounce their beliefs. 🕒 [00:35:00] – Final Thoughts: Tools for better discussions and how to support the podcast. 💬 Featured Quotes: 🗣️ “There is no need to submit to an interrogation. If you want to have a conversation, let’s have a conversation.” – Corey Nathan 🗣️ “I don’t have to defend a position that I don’t hold.” – Corey Nathan 🗣️ “The road to solving a lot of what ails us is not in winning debates—it’s in having healthier conversations.” – Corey Nathan 🗣️ “Conversations lead to relationships, and relationships lead to epiphanies.” – Corey Nathan 📚 Resources Mentioned: 🔗 Daryl Davis – Watch his TED Talk 🔗 Braver Angels – Building Bridges Across Political Divides 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com 🔥 Final Thought: Go out and have better conversations. Set boundaries, clear the brush, and seek dialogue—not debates. See you next time on Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killin’ Each Other ! 🎙️…

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Charlie Sykes - From Reagan Republicans to RFK Jr.: How the Right Lost Its Mind (Again) 1:12:26

17 days ago1:12:26

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Charlie Sykes, a prominent conservative commentator, former talk radio host, and founder of The Bulwark , who's currently writing and podcasting on his excellent Substack To the Contrary . Known for his sharp political insights and willingness to challenge the current trajectory of the Republican Party, Charlie discusses the erosion of democratic norms, the transformation of conservatism, and what the future holds for both parties. 📌 What We Discuss How the Republican Party shifted from traditional conservatism to a Trump-dominated movement. Why democracy faces real threats in the U.S. and globally. The importance of character in political leadership and why many conservatives abandoned this principle. Whether a pro-democracy coalition can hold back extremism in both parties. Charlie's thoughts on how we can have better political conversations without dehumanizing each other. ⏳ Episode Highlights 🔹 [00:01:00] Charlie’s Journey: From influential conservative talk radio host to political outcast in the Trump era. 🔹 [00:05:00] The Evolution of Trumpism: Why Trump 2.0 is even more dangerous than his first presidency. 🔹 [00:12:00] Engaging With Trump Supporters: Is it possible to change minds, or should we focus on mobilizing pro-democracy voters? 🔹 [00:22:00] The Republican Party’s Transformation: How the far-right fringe became the mainstream. 🔹 [00:35:00] Can Democrats Avoid the Same Mistakes? Learning from the GOP's takeover by extremists. 🔹 [00:47:00] America’s Role in the World: Why the U.S. is no longer seen as the leader of the free world. 🔹 [01:02:00] Building Bridges Across Differences: The importance of assuming goodwill and finding shared values. 💬 Featured Quotes "I’d rather be right than Marco Rubio right now." – Charlie Sykes "The Republican Party had multiple off-ramps to reject Trumpism, and they took none of them." – Charlie Sykes "We are living through history, and we don’t have the luxury of indifference." – Charlie Sykes "The challenge isn’t just about talking politics—it’s about figuring out how to get through this without killing each other." – Corey Nathan 📚 Resources Mentioned Charlie Sykes’ Substack Newsletter : To the Contrary Charlie’s 2018 book: How the Right Lost Its Mind The Identity Trap by Yascha Mounk 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…

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Grave Concerns and Glimmers of Hope: Navigating the State of US Politics 28:07

20 days ago28:07

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares his candid thoughts on hope, concerns about the state of democracy, and the importance of engaging in meaningful conversations. Inspired by recent discussions with David French and Charlie Sykes, Corey explores whether he remains hopeful about the future—both at the national level and in his local community. What You Will Learn The state of American democracy and the balance of power How the First Amendment is being threatened Why the judicial branch has been a critical check on executive overreach The role of civil discourse in bridging ideological divides How personal relationships offer reasons for hope Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction: Exploring the question of hope in today’s political climate [00:01:30] – Why Corey is concerned about the balance of power in government [00:05:00] – The judicial branch as a key safeguard against executive overreach [00:07:30] – Threats to First Amendment rights, including freedom of speech and the press [00:12:00] – The rise of online hostility and how it impacts public discourse [00:18:00] – Finding hope through local engagement and personal relationships [00:22:00] – The power of human connection in bridging political divides Featured Quotes "I have concerns about the balance of power and our First Amendment rights—but that doesn't mean I’m without hope." "When we engage with each other at the local level, it becomes about relationships instead of transactions." "If we really want to change things, we have to start by recognizing each other's humanity." 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…

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David French | Friends or Enemies? Overcoming Divides with Justice, Kindness, and Humility in a Polarized America 1:15:36

24 days ago1:15:36

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In this episode, we welcome back David French, columnist for The New York Times , former constitutional attorney, and author of Divided We Fall . We discuss the current state of American democracy, the challenges of political division, and how we can engage in civil discourse despite deep ideological differences. David also shares a personal update on his family and reflects on the profound trials and growth that come with adversity. 📌 What We Discuss: ✔️ How David and his family navigated the challenges of a serious health crisis. ✔️ The rise of political polarization and the factors driving it. ✔️ Why distinguishing between “unwise, unethical, and unlawful” is crucial in analyzing political actions. ✔️ How consuming different perspectives (even opposing ones) helps in understanding political dynamics. ✔️ The role of Christian values in politics and how they are being redefined. ⏳ Episode Highlights 📍 [00:01:00] – David French’s background and his journey from litigation to journalism. 📍 [00:02:30] – Personal update: David shares his wife Nancy’s battle with cancer and their journey as a family. 📍 [00:06:00] – How to navigate personal trials while maintaining faith and resilience. 📍 [00:10:00] – The danger of political paranoia and the pitfalls of extreme polarization. 📍 [00:18:00] – The "friend-enemy" paradigm in American politics and its influence in Christian fundamentalism. 📍 [00:24:00] – Revisiting Divided We Fall : How America’s divisions have devolved since 2020. 📍 [00:40:00] – The categories and differences of unwise, unethical, and unlawful political actions. 📍 [00:55:00] – The balance between justice, kindness, and humility in political engagement. 📍 [01:00:00] – The After Party initiative: A Christian approach to politics focused on values rather than policy. 💬 Featured Quotes 🔹 "You don't know who you truly are until your values are tested." – David French 🔹 "If we focus on the relational, we can have better conversations even across deep differences." – Corey Nathan 🔹 "Justice, kindness, and humility—if you're missing one, you're doing it wrong." – David French 🔹 "The United States has a history of shifting without repenting. We just move on." – David French 📚 Resources Mentioned David French’s Writing: New York Times David’s Book: Divided We Fall The After Party Initiative – More Info Advisory Opinions Podcast (with Sarah Isgur & David French) – Listen Here 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack David French: 🔗 Twitter | BlueSky | New York Times Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…

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How to Discuss Ukraine: First Principles, Facts, and Formulating Reasoned Positions 33:54

26 days ago33:54

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In this episode we dive into the complex issue of Ukraine, America's involvement, and the broader implications for democracy and global alliances. This episode is an exploration of how we can develop reasoned positions on global conflicts, engage in informed discussions, and recognize the limitations of our own expertise. What We Discuss How to approach discussions about Ukraine with a reasoned, principled perspective. The importance of distinguishing between facts and opinions in political discourse. How to recognize and rely on credible experts rather than self-appointed commentators. Strategies for engaging in meaningful conversations with those who hold different views. Why shared values and historical context matter in forming ethical positions. Episode Highlights [00:01:00] – Corey introduces the topic, emphasizing the importance of forming reasoned opinions based on principles rather than political affiliations. [00:04:00] – The rise of divisive, “owning the libs” mentalities in political discourse and the shift away from virtues like decency and integrity. [00:06:00] – Discussion of a powerful article by Dr. Russell Moore on the moral costs of ignoring Ukraine’s plight and the dangers of moral relativism in international affairs. [00:09:00] – The importance of verifying facts through reputable sources like the Council on Foreign Relations, rather than relying on partisan opinionators. [00:13:00] – Why experts like Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Anne Applebaum and military expert Alexander Vindman are critical voices in understanding the Ukraine conflict. [00:18:00] – The dangers of allowing misinformation to shape public opinion and the tactics used in political debates to shift blame and avoid accountability. [00:24:00] – Strategies for having better conversations, including finding shared values, hunting for points of agreement, and engaging with intellectual humility. [00:28:00] – A reflection on balancing justice, kindness, and humility in both personal interactions and global politics, inspired by Micah 6:8. Featured Quotes 🗣 “We can formulate reasoned positions on complicated issues, including Ukraine, by starting with principles rather than political affiliations.” 🗣 “Opinion is not fact. There’s a difference between listening to a trusted expert and being swayed by a partisan commentator.” 🗣 “What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God...” – Micah 6:8 Resources Mentioned Dr. Russell Moore’s Essay – The Moral Cost of Murdering Ukraine Anne Applebaum’s Article – The End of the Post-War World Council on Foreign Relations – Ukraine Conflict Updates (CFR) Alexander Vindman’s Book – The Folly of Realism: How the West Deceived Itself About Russia and Betrayed Ukraine Ross Douthat’s Opinion Piece – Trump and Vance Are Stripping Away Foreign Policy Illusions 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep the conversation going—respectfully and thoughtfully! 🎙️✨…

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Rep. Ritchie Torres on Israel, Trump, and Political Extremism: A Congressman's Fight for Moral Clarity 31:18

4 weeks ago31:18

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In this episode we sit down with Congressman Ritchie Torres, a fighter from the Bronx who has spent his life advocating for his community. We discuss pressing issues such as the social safety net, housing inequality, mental health, bipartisanship, and Rep. Torres’ personal journey from public housing to Congress. We also touch on Israel, antisemitism, and the future of American democracy. What We Discuss: How Congressman Torres’ personal experiences with poverty and public housing shaped his political career. His perspective on the Republican budget resolution and its impact on working-class Americans. Why mental health advocacy is deeply personal to him and the tools he uses to maintain his well-being. His unwavering support for Israel and the backlash he has faced because of it. Insights on the current political landscape, Donald Trump’s influence, and the need for bipartisanship. Whether Rep. Torres is considering a run for governor of New York and what motivates his political aspirations. How to engage in better political and religious discussions without hostility. Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] Introducing Ritchie Torres – His background, legislative achievements, and what drives him. [00:02:00] GOP Budget Cuts & Social Safety Net – Why the latest proposal is a “frontal assault” on working-class Americans. [00:04:00] Personal Story & His Greatest Hero – How being raised by a single mother in the Bronx shaped his worldview. [00:07:00] Mental Health & Politics – How Rep. Torres overcame depression and why he’s open about talking about mental health. [00:14:00] Facing Backlash for Supporting Israel – The threats and vitriol he has endured for his stance. [00:20:00] Avoiding Political Distractions – Why he focuses on core economic issues instead of social media trends. [00:22:00] Trump 2.0 & The Future of Democracy – His concerns about a second Trump presidency. [00:25:00] Political Future: Running for Governor? – Why he believes New York needs a new generation of leadership. [00:27:00] How to Talk Politics Without Killin' Each Other – The importance of intellectual humility and pluralism. Featured Quotes: “Before I’m a congressman or a councilman, I’m first and foremost the son of my mother...” “I refuse to live in fear of the extremes. I insist on doing what I think is right, even if it means standing alone.” “Not only should civil discourse be possible, it’s a necessity for a pluralistic democracy like ours.” “If you do the same thing over and over and expect a different result, that’s the definition of insanity.” 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s continue the conversation with gentleness and respect—and have a great week! 🎙️…

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Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde on Faith, Politics, and Ethical Conversations in a Polarized Nation 1:06:54

5 weeks ago1:06:54

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In this timely edition of Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other , host Corey Nathan welcomes Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C., and the Washington National Cathedral. Bishop Budde is a well-respected spiritual leader who has appeared on PBS NewsHour, Meet the Press , Good Morning America , and The Today Show . The conversation dives into Bishop Budde’s faith journey, her reflections on political and social issues, and her approach to leading with grace and courage in divisive times. The discussion also touches on the controversy surrounding her sermon and how she directly addressed Donald Trump at the National Cathedral following the 2025 presidential inauguration. What We Discuss Bishop Budde’s personal faith journey, from her early religious experiences to her leadership in the Episcopal Church. The challenges of navigating faith, politics, and national unity in today’s polarized climate. How to extend grace and practice mercy even in the face of criticism. The role of the church in advocating for social justice, particularly regarding immigration and LGBTQ+ rights. Strategies for engaging in difficult conversations while maintaining mutual respect. Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction to the episode and guest, Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde. [00:02:00] – Bishop Budde shares her faith journey and the struggles she faced reconciling different religious influences. [00:10:00] – The tension between faith and exclusivity: why some versions of Christianity felt limiting to her. [00:15:00] – The discipline of grace: choosing to respond with compassion rather than anger, even when faced with opposition. [00:26:00] – Bishop Budde’s response to the 2025 presidential inauguration sermon controversy and the importance of speaking truth with love. [00:38:00] – Handling criticism and maintaining a sense of personal and spiritual balance. [00:52:00] – Finding hope in uncertain times: How we can cultivate a spirit of resilience and faith amid societal challenges. [00:55:00] – The importance of dialogue: How to foster better conversations across political and religious differences. [01:03:00] – Final thoughts and how to follow Bishop Budde’s work. Featured Quotes "If it’s not about love, it’s not about God." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "The discipline of grace is a practice, not a gift. It’s about choosing to respond with love even when it’s difficult." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "To be raised from the dead—whatever that means in our own lives—requires our consent to live again, to have our hearts broken again, and to take on all of life again." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "We need to ask ourselves: When was the last time I changed my mind? True dialogue requires being open to seeing the world differently." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde Resources Mentioned Bishop Budde’s Book: How We Learn to Be Brave Episcopal Diocese of Washington – www.edow.org 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde: Episcopal Church of Washington: Website Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Thank you for tuning in! Now go talk politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️✨ #Politics #Religion #NeverTrump #Democracy #BishopBudde #Faith #Justice #Inclusivity #SocialJustice #Civility #Polarization…

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The #1 Antidote for Toxic Partisanship 30:26

6 weeks ago30:26

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan takes on one of the biggest challenges in today’s society: toxic partisanship. He explores how political and social divisions have deepened, fueled by media, social networks, and entrenched ideological battles. But rather than just diagnosing the problem, Corey offers a powerful antidote—getting local and engaging in real-life, face-to-face conversations. He draws inspiration from scholars like Jonathan Haidt, Katherine Stewart and Robert Putnam, as well as his personal experiences, to make a compelling case for community-based solutions to polarization. What We Discuss ✅ The real extent of political division in America—and why it's not as bad as it seems ✅ How social media and national narratives exaggerate our differences ✅ The philosophy of Carl Schmitt and its impact on modern political discourse ✅ Why local engagement—like city council meetings, PTAs, and even bar conversations—is the key to bridging divides ✅ Practical steps to foster meaningful discussions and rebuild relationships Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – The growing problem of toxic partisanship and how social media makes it worse ⏳ [00:05:00] – A study from More in Common shows Americans want unity, but doubt the other side does ⏳ [00:09:00] – Corey shares personal examples of online political attacks and how they reflect broader polarization ⏳ [00:14:00] – A key solution: Local engagement and organizations like Village Square ⏳ [00:17:00] – How shared community goals, like better roads and schools, help bridge ideological divides ⏳ [00:20:00] – The inspiring story of Joe Walsh and Fred Guttenberg: Two ideological opposites who became close friends ⏳ [00:23:00] – The challenge of engaging with people who seem beyond reach—and knowing when to step away ⏳ [00:26:00] – A call to action: Take the first step, invite someone for coffee, and start humanizing one another Featured Quotes 🗨️ "Division defines the country, but the desire to be united transcends parties." – More in Common study 🗨️ "The number one antidote to toxic partisanship is simply getting together." – Corey Nathan 🗨️ "When you're with each other, you're no longer just a data point—you’re a human being." – Corey Nathan 🗨️ "We don't have to agree on everything to build something better together." – Liz Joyner, Village Square Resources Mentioned 🔗 Village Square – Bridging divides through local community engagement 🔗 More in Common Study – Research on polarization and unity 🔗 Jonathan Haidt’s Work – Understanding social and political divisions 🔗 Robert Putnam’s Bowling Alone – How community engagement strengthens democracy 🔗 Joe Walsh & Fred Guttenberg’s Story – Bridging the political divide 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com 🔥 Now go talk some politics and religion—without killin' each other! 🔥…

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MONEY, LIES, AND GOD: INSIDE THE MOVEMENT TO DESTROY AMERICAN DEMOCRACY with author and investigative journalist Katherine Stewart 49:26

6 weeks ago49:26

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes investigative journalist and author Katherine Stewart back to the show. Katherine has spent over 15 years researching and reporting on religious nationalism and its impact on American democracy. Her new book, Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy, exposes the deep financial and ideological networks fueling Christian nationalism and the broader anti-democratic movement. This conversation explores how extreme wealth, disinformation, and religious nationalism are being weaponized against democracy—and what we can do about it. 📌 What We Discuss How Katherine Stewart uncovered the deeper connections between Christian nationalism and the assault on democracy. The role of money and misinformation in fueling anti-democratic movements. The reactionary nihilism driving today’s far-right ideologies. The influence of Carl Schmitt’s philosophy on modern authoritarian movements. The connection between Christian nationalism and billionaire-funded political agendas. How we can protect democracy and fight back against these movements. ⏳ Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction to Katherine Stewart Corey introduces Katherine Stewart, her investigative work, and her new book Money, Lies, and God . [00:03:00] – The Origins of Her Investigation Katherine shares how her research started with Good News Clubs infiltrating public schools and evolved into uncovering a broader movement attacking democracy. [00:12:00] – The Enlightenment Ideals America Was Founded On How fundamental American values like pluralism and democracy are under attack by Christian nationalist movements. [00:19:00] – The Role of Money, Lies, and Christian Nationalism How billionaires, propaganda, and religious nationalism work together to undermine democracy. [00:28:00] – The Psychology of the Movement Stories from inside Moms for Liberty and other right-wing organizations, and how fear and misinformation fuel these movements. [00:32:00] – Carl Schmitt and the Playbook of Authoritarianism How Nazi political theorist Carl Schmitt’s ideas on power, division, and permanent emergency are influencing the New Right. [00:41:00] – Why We Should Be Concerned—and What We Can Do Katherine explains why we should be alarmed, but also how grassroots activism can defend democracy. [00:44:00] – Final Thoughts: How We Can Build a Pro-Democracy Coalition Katherine shares her six key takeaways from Money, Lies, and God and why organization and truth-telling matter now more than ever. 📢 Featured Quotes "They told us they were going to smash the institutions that safeguard democracy—and that’s exactly what they’re doing." "This movement isn’t just about the culture wars—it’s about power, money, and dismantling democracy itself." "They want to replace public education with a religious and corporate-controlled system. The culture wars are just a smokescreen." "Not everybody who wants to go back to the ‘good old days’ is a nihilist. But those who want to smash democracy in pursuit of a mythical past certainly are." 📚 Resources Mentioned Katherine Stewart’s Website: KatherineStewart.me Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy – Available Everywhere Books Are Sold Carl Schmitt’s Political Theories – Learn More 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Katherine Stewart: Website Bluesky Latest in the New York Times Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com 🔥 Now go talk some politics and religion—without killin' each other! 🔥…

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Have Christians Forgotten the First Commandment? 34:04

7 weeks ago34:04

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In this edition, Corey Nathan challenges listeners—especially his fellow Christians—to consider whether they have forgotten the first commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." He explores how idolatry has evolved beyond worshiping wooden idols and now manifests in politics, ideology, and the way Christians engage with their faith in a modern democracy. This is meant to be an open conversation for people of all beliefs. Corey discusses the intersection of faith and civic engagement, posing challenging questions about whether political preferences are shaping morality rather than the other way around. 📌 What We Discuss ✔️ How idolatry in modern times is often just a few degrees off from traditional religious practices. ✔️ Why many Christians reject the Jesus of the Gospel in favor of political leaders and ideologies. ✔️ The dangers of replacing the God of Scripture with a God of personal or political making. ✔️ How politics has become a form of religion for many. ✔️ A deep dive into reactions to Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde’s sermon and what it reveals about faith in America today. ⏳ Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction: Corey welcomes listeners and introduces the big question: Have Christians forgotten the first commandment? [00:02:30] – The Meaning of Idolatry Today: It’s not about golden statues but about how religious practices can be slightly distorted—just a few degrees off—leading to misplaced worship. [00:05:45] – Rejecting the Jesus of the Gospel: Corey recounts the backlash against Bishop Budde for quoting Jesus and discusses how some Christians react negatively to Christ’s actual teachings when they challenge political views. [00:14:30] – Creating a God in Our Own Image: Are Christians shaping their beliefs to fit their politics, rather than aligning their politics with their faith? [00:18:10] – Trump, Religion, and the Fruit of the Spirit: Corey examines whether Trump’s actions and character align with Christian virtues, calling out the contradictions in how some Christians perceive him as a godly leader. [00:21:40] – Religious Symbols and Political Extremism: Corey discusses alarming juxtapositions, like crosses displayed next to gallows on January 6th, and the disturbing fusion of faith and nationalism. [00:26:45] – The Politics of Cruelty: Highlighting Pete Wehner’s critique of USAID cuts and how many self-proclaimed Christians align with leaders who embrace cruelty. [00:30:00] – Final Reflection: How do we participate in healing a broken world rather than contributing to its fractures? 💬 Featured Quotes 🗣️ “Idolatry isn’t necessarily about worshiping something completely different—it’s about replacing God with something that looks like God but is just a few degrees off.” 🗣️ “If you start with political affiliation and back everything else into that—including morality, truth, and even basic decency—you’ve made politics your god.” 🗣️ “The world is supposed to look at Christians and see Jesus. But too often, it sees something monstrous.” – John Pavlovitz 🔗 Resources Mentioned 📖 The Beautiful Mess by John Pavlovitz – Substack 📰 The Cruel Attack on USAID by Pete Wehner – The Atlantic 🎥 Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde’s Sermon – YouTube 📢 Call to Action If you found this conversation compelling, help us continue the discussion: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion Let’s keep talking about politics and religion— with curiosity, respect, and a commitment to truth. 🔗 Connect with Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s continue the conversation! 🚀…

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California’s Path to Independence? A Conversation about CalExit with Marcus Ruiz Evans 1:06:36

7 weeks ago1:06:36