8.13 William Sherman - Safeback

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In this episode, we start the hour by chatting with Joel Gratz, head meteorologist and founder of OpenSnow. Joel tells us why he started OpenSnow and how it can help streamline your weather analysis process to help lead you to your deepest days in the resort or favorite backcountry location. I then sit down with William Sherman of Safeback. Will is originally from Colorado, but now lives in Norway where he works for Safeback. For the last 6 years, Safeback has been developing a product to help extend the avalanche survival curve for victims buried under the snow who have a patent airway. Will explains the thorough independent research that backs the efficacy of the Safeback SBX product, we discuss how it works and how it is integrated into backpacks and vests. He is transparent about the limitations of the system and recognizes that new technology simply can't take the place of conservative decision-making in an uncertain backcountry environment. We hope you enjoy the episode! Music by Ketsa https://www.safeback.no/articles/product-testing/eurac-research-conduct-independent-medical-trial-of-safeback-sbx Support for this episode is provided by: Wyssen Avalanche Control Gordini USA OpenSnow Use code: avalanchepodcast at www.opensnow.com to receive 30% off an all access year subscription to OpenSnow.

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Keeping your sense of wonder about the snow with Janet Kellam 1:03:40

8 days ago1:03:40

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In this knowledge-packed episode, Brooke Maushund sits down with Janet Kellam, who received the American Avalanche Association Bernie Kingery Award for lifetime achievement at ISSW in 2023 after serving as the former Director of the Sawtooth Avalanche Center, President of the American Avalanche Association's board, and being involved in the early days of the USFS National Avalanche Center. She was also the first woman licensed ski guide in Idaho, the first woman president of A3, and the first woman director of an avalanche center. Janet doesn’t just have decades of experience—she gained expertise in niche corners of the snow industry across the globe. From work as a winter specialist on a 1990 documentary film sailing to and spending 6 weeks skiing on the rarely visited Antarctica peninsula, to being a licensed backcountry and heli ski guide, Janet didn’t leave much idle time in her career. In this episode, Janet shares nuggets of knowledge from her more than 36 year career in the avalanche industry, her remaining curiosities about avalanche mechanics, where she sees the industry going next…but most importantly, she tells us how she kept her sense of wonder about the snow over the years: always, always taking care of others. Resources & Links Mentioned: • ISSW 2012 Paper: The Urban Avalanche Interface and Community Impacts a Case Study: Ketchum, Sun Valley & the Wood River Valley, Idaho • Avalanche Education for All, High Country News Article • USFS National Avalanche Center • National Avalanche School • Sawtooth Avalanche Center • American Avalanche Association Resilience Project • Responder Alliance Crew: • Host: Brooke Maushund (@brookemaush) • Guest: Janet Kellam • Producer: Caleb Merrill (@theavalanchehourpodcast) Sponsors: Wyssen Avalanche Control Gordini OpenSnow PeakVisor 🎶 Music by Ketsa: Get Me Out, Snowing in Spring, Reach the End…

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Will Gadd: Stay Stoked and Stay Alive 1:48:32

22 days ago1:48:32

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In this episode, Dom Baker sits down with the legendary mountain athlete Will Gadd, a pioneering ice climber, paddler and paraglider. Will has established some of the hardest mixed ice climbing lines in the world, set the world distance record for paragliding, and then beaten it, kayaked down dozens of first descents across North America, not to mention soloed the first one- day ascent of Canada’s Mt.Robson. Will has rigorously prepared for and completed high complexity adventures all over the world and in the process has developed a thoughtful perspective on risk, writing and talking about risk for years, including in a 2016 Ted Talk. In this episode Will discusses his perspectives on exposure, consequence and how the public avalanche bulletin might not quite apply to ice climbing routes. Resources, Books & Links Mentioned: www.willgadd.com Tedx Talk Video Dunning-Kruger effect Impossible Dreams: Remote paragliding and climbing in Canada! Todd Conklin “The 5 Principles of Human Performance” Daniel Kahneman “Noise: A Flaw in Human Judgment” Amy Edmondson “ Emotional Intelligence: Psychological Safety” Annie Duke “Thinking in Bets: Making Smarter Decisions When You Don’t Have All The Facts” Crew: • Host: Dom Baker (@dom_baken) • Guest: Will Gadd (@realwillgadd) • Producer: Caleb Merrill (@theavalanchehourpodcast) Sponsors: • Wyssen Avalanche Control • Gordini • OpenSnow • Peak Visor ***Special Offer*** 🎶 Music by Gravy @gravy.tunes…

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Fabiano Monti: Protecting Italy's highest village 1:04:59

29 days ago1:04:59

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European Hosts Matthias Walcher and Christoph Mitterer bring you a conversation with Fabiano Monti. Fabi is an Avalanche Forecaster, Ski Instructor, and Environmental Scientist based in Livigno, Italy. He holds a Master's degree and a Ph.D. in Environmental Science from the University of Insubria, with specialized research conducted at the WSL Institute for Snow and Avalanche Research (SLF) in Switzerland. His doctoral research focused on modeling snowpack stability for avalanche forecasting. In 2013, Fabiano founded Alpsolut Srl, an innovative company dedicated to providing scientific solutions for managing snow-related risks. Under his leadership, Alpsolut has developed operational snow cover simulations using the SNOWPACK model, widely adopted by European avalanche centers for regional and site-specific forecasting. Fabiano has extensive international experience, having participated in two Italian Antarctic expeditions (2012, 2015-2016), and collaborates with various agencies across Europe, including ARPA Lombardia, ÖBB Infrastruktur AG, and Lawinenwarndienst Tirol. His expertise spans avalanche hazard mapping, remote sensing with satellite imagery, environmental data analysis, and machine learning applications to snow and avalanche risk management. Currently, Fabiano serves as the lead avalanche forecaster for the Municipality of Livigno, managing risk assessments for both recreational backcountry activities and managed ski areas. He is passionate about advancing avalanche safety through research, education, and the integration of cutting-edge technologies. Resources & Links Mentioned: https://www.alpsolut.eu/ https://www.instagram.com/alpsolut.eu/ Crew: • Host: Matthias Walcher/Christoph Mitterer • Guest: Fabiano Monti • Producer: Caleb Merrill (@theavalanchehourpodcast) Sponsors: • ⁠Wyssen Avalanche Control ⁠ • ⁠Gordini⁠ • ⁠OpenSnow ⁠ • ⁠IPA Collective 🎶 Music by Gravy. Mid Roll Ad Music by Ketsa. Instagram https://www.instagram.com/alpsolut.eu/ Website https://www.alpsolut.eu/…

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The Ascending Spiral of Mentorship with Nina Marienthal 55:17

5 weeks ago55:17

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Episode Overview: In this compelling episode, Brooke sits down with Nina Marienthal, Lead Guide at Beartooth Powder Guides (BPG) in Cooke City, Montana, where she landed after starting her career heli-guiding in Alaska. After growing up the daughter of a heli-ski guide and ski instructor—doing her homework at the helibase every spring in Alaska while her parents were out in the snow—it only makes sense that Nina went on to become one of the youngest people to be an AMGA Certified Ski Guide. Currently the lead guide at BPG and an Educator at the American Avalanche Institute, Nina dives into her beginnings working her way up from being an apprentice at Black Ops Valdez in Alaska, to her draw to pursue more human-powered guiding as she progressed in her career and desires for her work. Nina shares unique perspectives on the pace of mechanized vs. human-powered guiding, navigating the industry as a woman, and most importantly how the ascending spiral of mentorship develops over time. Resources & Links Mentioned: • Beartooth Powder Guides • Black Ops Valdez • Gallatin National Forest Avalanche Center • Eastern Oregon University Motorized User Survey • AIARE Transceiver Terminology Survey • Boilen/McCammon Human Factor 2.0 Initial Survey : Crew: • Host: Brooke Maushund • Guest: Nina Marienthal (@nina_marienthal) • Producer: Caleb Merrill (@theavalanchehourpodcast) Sponsors: • Wyssen Avalanche Control • Gordini • OpenSnow • Arva Equipment 🎶 Music by Ketsa: My Sunny Lounge, Sandstone…

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Therapy for the Soul: A Beginner’s Toolbox into Navigating Grief, Trauma, and Loss 1:06:54

7 weeks ago1:06:54

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Therapy for the Soul: A Beginner’s Toolbox into Navigating Grief, Trauma, and Loss Guest: Jenny Fiebig – Licensed Professional Counselor, IFS Trainer, Outdoor Trauma Specialist Host: Brooke “Shiny” Edwards Recording Date: December 4th, 2024 Episode Summary: In this deeply insightful episode of The Avalanche Hour Podcast , host Brooke “Shiny” Edwards sits down with Jenny Fiebig , a licensed professional counselor specializing in trauma related to outdoor accidents. Jenny shares her journey from outdoor educator and guide to becoming a trauma therapist, blending her love for the wilderness with mental health counseling. They explore how trauma impacts the nervous system, how to process grief and loss in outdoor communities, and how professionals and recreationalists alike can navigate their emotions without suppressing them. Jenny also walks Brooke through real-time nervous system regulation techniques, providing valuable tools for listeners struggling with anxiety or fear in the mountains. This episode serves as both an educational experience and an intimate exploration of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, trauma recovery, and the power of self-compassion in high-risk environments. Key Discussion Points: • How outdoor trauma manifests in the nervous system • Understanding the IFS (Internal Family Systems) therapy model • The “warrior mentality” in outdoor culture and why it can be harmful • Differentiating healthy vs. destructive coping mechanisms after accidents or loss • Tools for navigating fear, grief, and trauma in the backcountry • The stress continuum and recognizing the warning signs of mental health struggles • The work of SOAR (Survivors of Outdoor Adventures in Recovery) in helping trauma survivors heal Guest Bio & Background: Jenny Fiebig is a licensed professional counselor in Montana and Colorado, specializing in trauma therapy for outdoor-related accidents . She has a background in outdoor education and guiding, which informs her work in helping individuals heal from experiences of loss, grief, and PTSD related to the backcountry . Jenny pursued a graduate degree in mental health counseling at Montana State University and became a specialist in IFS therapy , now working as a global trainer with the IFS Institute . She is also deeply involved in SOAR (Survivors of Outdoor Adventures in Recovery) , where she helps provide therapy, community, and resources for those struggling with outdoor-related trauma. Links & Resources Mentioned: • SOAR (Survivors of Outdoor Adventures in Recovery): https://www.soar4life.org/ • Responder Alliance Stress Continuum: https://www.responderalliance.com/stress-continuum • Redside Foundation: https://www.redsidefoundation.org/ • IFS Institute: https://ifs-institute.com/ • Jenny Fiebig’s Website: https://www.jennyfiebig.com/ • Eduardo Duran – Healing the Soul Wound Sponsor & Partner Mentions: Presented by: • Wyssen Avalanche Control – www.wyssen.com Additional sustaining support from: • Gordini – www.gordini.com • OpenSnow – www.opensnow.com • Compare 10-day snow forecasts , read expert analysis, and track storms • Use promo code AVALANCHE50 for 50% off OpenSnow Premium : www.opensnow.com/buy • RAIDE Research – www.raideresearch.com • Use code AVHOUR for 10% off your order Music Credits: • Intro Music: Believing – Ketsa • Outro Music: Touching Moments (Remastered) – Ketsa Where to Listen & Subscribe: • Website: The Avalanche Hour Podcast • Spotify: The Avalanche Hour on Spotify • Apple Podcasts: The Avalanche Hour on Apple Podcasts Producer Credits: • Caleb Merrill • Cameron Griffin…

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That's What She Said....Sara Interviews Andrea Mannberg 1:15:32

8 weeks ago1:15:32

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In this episode, Sara Boilen interviews Andrea Manberg. Andrea is an economist and researcher who spends her time thinking about human behavior, decision-making, and risk in avalanche terrain. Having survived a pretty brutal avalanche herself, Andrea is passionate about understanding what motivates us toward risk and how we position ourselves to enjoy our pursuits while staying as safe as we want to. She presented at ISSW on her paper, Is it a man’s world? Gendered professional experiences in snow and avalanche safety and came on the podcast to talk to Sara about the reality faced by males, females, and non binary folks in an industry long-dominated by men. The conversation delves into various topics including what makes a good snow and avalanche professional, mentorship, and menstruation. Join us as we deconstruct the myth that it is, and needs to be, a man’s world. Website for CARE (where Andrea Works): https://en.uit.no/ansatte/andrea.mannberg There, you can find out more about Andrea and what the good folks at CARE are doing as well as links to Andrea’s publications. If you’d like to watch more of Andrea, here’s a link to a great talk she gave back in 2017 with the Sawtooth Avalanche Center: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7xSutCesLQ Read the research by Andrea and her colleagues, as presented at ISSW Tromso here: https://arc.lib.montana.edu/snow-science/objects/ISSW2024_O11.6.pdf Support for this Episode is provided by: Wyssen Avalanche Control Gordini OpenSnow Propagation Labs…

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The Doctor is In: Dr. Christopher Van Tilburg 59:01

10 weeks ago59:01

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In this episode, Caleb sits down with Dr. Christopher Van Tilburg of Hood River, Oregon. Van Tilburg is an American physician and author specializing in emergency, wilderness, travel, environmental, occupational, and public health medicine. He is author of 11 books on outdoor recreation, wilderness medicine, and international travel, including three memoirs on mountain rescue, including Crisis on Mount Hood: Stories from 100 years of Mountain Rescue, forthcoming May 2025Van Tilburg is on staff at Providence Hood River Memorial Hospital in Hood River, Oregon, USA where he works at Occupational and Travel Medicine, in the Emergency Department, and at the Providence Mountain Clinic at Mount Hood Meadows Ski Resort. In addition, he works as a physician on expeditions around the world, on cruise ships, on humanitarian medical relief programs, and as an expert witness on wilderness medicine. He is also a mountain rescue doctor with Hood River Crag Rats, the oldest mountain rescue team in the United States, established in 1926 in Hood River, Oregon, USA. He is medical director for four search and rescue teams: Hood River Crag Rats, Pacific Northwest SAR, Clackamas County SAR and Portland Mountain Rescue. He serves as Public Health Officer in Oregon for Hood River County. He serves as Medical Examiner for Hood River, Gilliam, Sherman, Wasco, and Wheeler Counties in Oregon. Dr. Van Tilburg has been honored three times by the Wilderness Medical Society. He received Dian Simpkins Award for Service, the Haiti Humanitarian Research Award, and the Ice Axe Award for Service. His book ''Mountain Rescue Doctor: Wilderness Medicine in the Extremes of Nature'' was shortlisted for Banff Festival of Mountain Books and Oregon Book Awards in 2007 and was Readers Digest Editor’s Pick for November 2007. His book ''Adrenaline Junkie’s Bucket List: 100 Extreme Adventures to Do Before You Die'' received the Far West Ski Association Bill Berry Award for outstanding printed media in 2014Van Tilburg was the lead author for ''Wilderness Medical Society Practice Guidelines for Prevention and Management of Avalanche and Nonavalanche Snow Burial Accidents,'' a multinational effort published in 2017 and updated in 2024. We discuss some of the salient points of CVT's research, lessons delivered through many SAR calls, and current best practices for avalanche victim post-extrication care. We hope you enjoy. Music: Ketsa Artwork: Mike Tea Links to more of Van Tilburg's work…

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Humility in the Face of Historic Uncertainty: Becs Hodgetts 1:15:59

12 weeks ago1:15:59

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Sean Zimmerman-Wall steps in front of the mic to bring you another great interview with Rebecca “Becs” Hodgetts. Becs began ski patrolling in the mid-1990s on Mt Ruapehu, a volcano in the central plateau of New Zealand’s North Island. She went on to work at other resorts in New Zealand, Canada, and the US. She worked 12 years at Arapahoe Basin in Colorado, first as an avalanche technician and later as Assistant Ski Patrol Director. She joined the Colorado Avalanche Information Center in 2013 and worked first as a Backcountry, then as a Highway Forecaster, and finally as a Regional Lead Forecaster for southern Colorado. In July 2024, she took a new role with the US Forest Service's National Avalanche Center (NAC). In this role, she will support the NAC's mission to improve backcountry and ski area safety by reducing avalanche risk on and around National Forests. This mission includes training and transferring information and technology to the field, managing the Artillery for Avalanche Mitigation Program, and coordinating US avalanche centers through the National Avalanche Forecast Platform. Show Notes: March 2019 Historic Avalanche Cycle Video produced by CAIC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlkH-Mnzddc Interview with CAIC Director Ethan Greene produced by The Powder Cloud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YolFA80sP5Y National Avalanche Center and Avalanche.org https://avalanche.org/national-avalanche-center/ The Starting Zone by Karl Birkeland https://support.friendsofcaic.org/products/the-starting-zone-at-the-interface-between-avalanche-science-and-practice?srsltid=AfmBOopaIynaGIjcEwbEhudjbTuCHTWlsHXgIFQf26ne3tfbgcABdFj- Thanks to the sponsors of this episode: Wyssen Avalanche Control Gordini USA OpenSnow IPA Collective Music by Age Diamante Art by Mike Tea…

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Reading the Signs: Avalanche Risk and Decision-Making with Ian McCammon 1:18:36

13 weeks ago1:18:36

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Ian McCammon , often considered the godfather of human factors in avalanche education, has a unique background with a foot in scientific research and another in backcountry exploration. With formal training in physics, materials science, and engineering, Ian started in R&D before becoming deeply involved in avalanche education in the 1990s. Following the loss of his friend Steve Carruthers in an avalanche, he was driven to study how experienced individuals make fatal decisions despite knowing better . His work has since shaped modern avalanche education and risk management strategies. Ian developed the FACETS acronym: Familiarity: We feel safer in places we've been before, even when conditions change. Acceptance: The desire to fit in can push individuals to take unnecessary risks. Commitment/Consistency: The drive to follow through on a plan despite new information. Expert Halo: Over-reliance on an individual perceived as an expert. Tracks/Scarcity: The fear of missing out on first tracks can cloud judgment. Social Proof: Seeing others on a slope can create a false sense of security. His research suggests that merely teaching these factors isn’t enough to change behavior— awareness must be coupled with tools for self-evaluation . PDFs help individuals identify their personal biases and recurring decision-making flaws. By reflecting on past experiences and recognizing patterns in our own choices, we can slow down and make more objective decisions in the field. Ian also created ALPTRUTh , an easy-to-remember checklist that has been proven effective in evaluating avalanche risk. More than 90% of avalanche accidents occur when three or more of these factors are present: A: Avalanches in the past 48 hours. L: Recent loading from snow, wind, or rain. P: Obvious avalanche path present. T: Terrain trap below. R: Avalanche danger rating of "considerable" or higher. U: Signs of unstable snow (cracking, collapsing, whoomping). TH: Thawing or rapid warming conditions. McCammon introduced the Stability Wheel , a simplified model explaining the three conditions necessary for an avalanche : Strength: The ability of the snowpack to resist force. Structure: Weak layers and slab formations. Energy Release: The capacity for a fracture to propagate. Ian explains how propagation propensity, friction, and fracture toughness are now being studied in more depth to improve predictive tools like the Extended Column Test (ECT) and Propagation Saw Test (PST) . One of Ian’s strongest messages in the episode is the importance of margins —the space we create between ourselves and dangerous terrain to account for uncertainty . He emphasizes that uncertainty is often underestimated and that decision-makers must continually assess whether they are acting on knowledge or assumptions. Ian discusses a study that found significant human and device error in slope angle measurements, with a margin of error between 3-6 degrees . This has implications for decision-making, especially when relying on digital elevation models and inclinometer apps. Ian highlights the need for new research in decision-making tools , material-based snowpack models , and practical field applications of computational advancements . He also discusses the role of technology in avalanche education , including digital versions of his Snow & Avalanche Fieldbook and new methods for risk communication. “Every time you get on a slope, you have to look at it as if you're seeing it for the first time.” – Ian McCammon FACETS and Human Factors in Avalanche Accidents ALPTRUTh: Evaluating Risk Factors in Avalanche Accidents Stability Wheel and Snowpack Fracture Mechanics Decision-Making in Avalanche Terrain: Cognitive Biases Snow & Avalanche Fieldbook (White Book) • Host: Jake Hutchinson • Guest: Ian McCammon • Producer: Cameron Griffin • Wyssen: www.wyssen.com • OpenSnow: www.opensnow.com • Gordini: www.gordini.com • Arva: https://us.arva-equipment.com/ Music by Ketsa • Campfire…

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Coloring with all the Crayons: A3's Professional Education Manager Jen Reddy 1:01:26

14 weeks ago1:01:26

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Jen Reddy is a total low-key badass who sat down with Caleb for a great conversation about her work with Teton County Search and Rescue and the American Avalanche Association. Jen is tasked with overseeing the guidance of the professional training program amongst participating providers within the US. Jen and Caleb talk about her early years of backcountry skiing, a close call, and some influences that urged her to get involved as a volunteer with Teton County Search and Rescue. They discuss some of her work at A3 and what has been going on behind the scenes to elevate the level of professional training in the US. Tune in to hear more. Music: Ketsa Art: Mike Tea Listener Survey Resources: A3 Pro Training Program ICAR 2024 Congress Teton County Search and Rescue…

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Deep Slabs and Decision-Making – A Legacy of Safety with Chris Stethem and Grant Statham (Part 2) 1:17:39

16 weeks ago1:17:39

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Episode Overview In this second part of their conversation, Chris Stethem and Grant Statham dig deeper into the evolving world of avalanche safety, focusing on how decision-making frameworks and advanced communication practices have reshaped the industry. They begin by exploring the development of InfoEx, reflecting on how the system has grown over time and identifying areas for potential improvement. This discussion naturally segues into Chris’s early days as an avalanche consultant, laying the groundwork for the professionalization of avalanche research and the formation of new training programs. As the episode progresses, Chris and Grant share insights on how the CAA Level 3 Course came into being, noting the considerable skill set and qualifications now required to enroll in higher-level avalanche education. They highlight the rising standards for certification in various avalanche-related jobs, emphasizing how worker safety has driven regulatory changes and communication strategies designed to put people in safer positions on the mountain. Bringing their vast experience to bear, Chris and Grant examine spatial variability in different types of terrain, describing how certain slopes may foster specific avalanche problems. They delve into the tension between scientific assessments, practical experience, and the uncertainties that can influence life-and-death decisions in avalanche terrain. Their stories illustrate how collaboration, mentorship, and continually evolving best practices have shaped modern avalanche safety and will continue to do so. Key Topics Covered • InfoEx Evolution – The origins, growth, and potential improvements of this critical data-sharing tool • Early Avalanche Consultancy – How initial consulting efforts opened doors for professional research • Birth of the CAA Level 3 Course – The skill set, accomplishments, and certification pathways crucial for advanced avalanche work • Raising the Bar for Worker Safety – How advocacy, regulation, and improved communication led to better safety policies • Spatial Variability & Avalanche Types – Linking different slopes to specific avalanche risks and managing uncertainty in dynamic conditions Crew • Host: Dom Baker • Guests: Chris Stethem and Grant Statham • Producer: Cameron Griffin Sponsors • Wyssen: www.wyssen.com • OpenSnow: www.opensnow.com • Gordini: www.gordini.com • Raide Reaserch: www.raideresearch.com Music by Gravy • Lost My Voice…

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Deep Snow, Deeper Lessons – The Origins of Avalanche Safety with Chris Stethem and Grant Statham (Part 1) 1:32:20

17 weeks ago1:32:20

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Episode Overview In this first part of a two-episode series, The Avalanche Hour Podcast features an in-depth conversation with avalanche industry legends Chris Stethem and Grant Statham . These two have dedicated their lives to advancing avalanche safety, education, and research, and their collective impact has shaped how we think about risk management in snow-covered terrain. The episode begins with the Granduc Mine Avalanche incident in Canada , a pivotal event that underscored the critical need for better risk assessment and communication systems. From there, Chris and Grant explore the origins of avalanche safety practices during the early “cowboy” days, where trial and error led to life-saving lessons. Listeners will also hear about: • Defining avalanche scales and aspects to improve communication and ensure messages reach diverse audiences effectively. • The snowpack evolution of the 1976-77 winter , where facets became prominent, and the impacts of climate change began to show. • A terrifying near-miss at a FIS ski race , where an avalanche ran into coaches, illustrating the gaps in early avalanche response planning. • The development and introduction of avalanche beacons , from professional use to their eventual adoption by recreational users. • Spatial planning for avalanche paths , with lessons drawn from Utah’s structural defenses and how they informed better land-use decisions. Chris and Grant also reflect on how communication methods have evolved over time, emphasizing the importance of tailoring messages to the audience—whether professionals or recreational backcountry travelers—to ensure safety in avalanche terrain. This episode sets the stage for an enlightening second part, where they’ll dive deeper into modern advancements, risk management techniques, and more. Resources & Links Mentioned • Wyssen Avalanche Control • OpenSnow • Gordini • Raide Research Crew • Host: Dom Baker • Guests: Chris Stethem & Grant Statham • Producer: Cameron Griffin Sponsors • Wyssen Avalanche Control • OpenSnow • Gordini • Raide Research Music by Gravy • Song: Lost My Voice…

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From Horses to Horizons: Liz King’s Avalanche Education Journey 1:05:15

18 weeks ago1:05:15

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Episode Overview In this engaging episode, host Jason Antin dives into a captivating conversation with Liz King , a renowned leader in avalanche education and mountain safety. Liz shares her unique journey from her unexpected beginnings in Houston, Texas, to becoming a key figure in the avalanche education world. As the Avalanche Program Director for both the American Avalanche Institute (AAI) and the Colorado Mountain School (CMS), Liz oversees comprehensive avalanche programming, from recreational courses to professional certifications. Liz’s story begins with a love for the mountains that led her to the University of Montana, where she first discovered her passion for the outdoors. Her career started with horse packing at NOLS, transitioned to ski patrolling, and grew into a prominent role as an avalanche educator and guide. Liz reflects on her path, discussing the evolving landscape of avalanche education, the challenges of managing large-scale programs, and the importance of mentorship in outdoor leadership. This episode offers deep insights into Liz’s professional evolution, her perspective on student engagement, and the advancements in avalanche safety technology. Jason and Liz discuss the shifting demographics of avalanche education students, the balance between recreational and professional training, and Liz’s personal goals as she navigates her leadership roles. The conversation also highlights Liz’s reflections on mentorship, her passion for empowering the backcountry community, and her dedication to maintaining personal connections in the mountains. With humor and authenticity, Liz shares her “personal disaster flags” (PDFs), her thoughts on the role of mentorship in her career, and her excitement for skiing in new mountain ranges every year. Whether you’re a seasoned avalanche educator or new to the backcountry world, this episode is packed with valuable insights, inspiration, and a glimpse into the mind of a true mountain professional. Resources & Links Mentioned • American Avalanche Institute (AAI): www.avalancheinstitute.com • Colorado Mountain School (CMS): www.coloradomountainschool.com • American Avalanche Association (A3): www.avalanche.org • Bridger-Teton Avalanche Center: www.jhavalanche.org Crew • Host: Jason Antin • Guest: Liz King • Producer: Caleb Merrill and Cameron Griffin Sponsors • Wyssen: www.wyssen.com • OpenSnow: www.opensnow.com • Gordini: www.gordini.com • Beacon Guidebooks: www.beaconguidebooks.com Music by Age Diamante: • Chill Pah…

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Layers of Life and Learning: Lessons from the Mountains with Josh Hirshberg 1:20:05

20 weeks ago1:20:05

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In this compelling episode, Brooke sits down with Josh Hirshberg, a veteran avalanche forecaster and educator with nearly two decades of experience in the snow safety world. Currently forecasting for the Northwest Avalanche Center (NWAC), Josh dives into his journey through the avalanche industry, from early internships in Aspen to forecasting in Washington’s Cascades. Josh shares captivating insights about the notable February 2021 avalanche cycle in Washington, the challenges of persistent weak layers, and the importance of mentorship and collaboration. He also reflects on personal growth, balancing creative pursuits like photography and art, and how grief has shaped his perspective on the mountains and life. Resources & Links Mentioned • Northwest Avalanche Center (NWAC): www.nwac.us Crew • Host: Brooke Maushund • Guest: Josh Hirshberg • Producer: Cameron Griffin (@backcountrycam) Sponsors • Wyssen: www.wyssen.com • Arva: www.arva-equipment.com • OpenSnow: www.opensnow.com • Gordini: www.gordini.com • Safeback: www.safeback.com • Beacon Guidebooks: www.beaconguidebooks.com 🎶 Music by Ketsa: • Yellowish • Snowing in Spring • Anons…

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Fat skis are a risk management tool and other Goldie Nuggets: Sara Boilen x Larry Goldie 1:18:13

21 weeks ago1:18:13