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In this episode of ID Talk, co-hosts Alex Perala and Tony Bitzionis sit down with Cyrus Hodes, an AI governance expert affiliated with the OECD and co-founder of The Future Society. Cyrus shares insights into the urgent need for global AI safety measures, the rise of deepfakes, and the challenges of governing rapidly evolving AI technologies. He discusses his work leading the OECD’s AI safety initiatives, the importance of decentralized governance, and his new venture leveraging blockchain for AI model evaluations. Tune in for an in-depth exploration of how generative AI impacts identity security, the global regulatory landscape, and why collaboration between global superpowers is essential to address AI's growing risks.

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In this episode of ID Talk, co-hosts Alex Perala and Tony Bitzionis sit down with Cyrus Hodes, an AI governance expert affiliated with the OECD and co-founder of The Future Society. Cyrus shares insights into the urgent need for global AI safety measures, the rise of deepfakes, and the challenges of governing rapidly evolving AI technologies. He discusses his work leading the OECD’s AI safety initiatives, the importance of decentralized governance, and his new venture leveraging blockchain for AI model evaluations. Tune in for an in-depth exploration of how generative AI impacts identity security, the global regulatory landscape, and why collaboration between global superpowers is essential to address AI's growing risks.

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In this episode of ID Talk, IDnow’s Director of Research, Montaser Awal, reveals how AI is reshaping the fight against digital fraud and deepfake threats. He discusses IDnow’s role in Europe's groundbreaking Achilles Project, emphasizing transparency, fairness, and trust in artificial intelligence. Montaser also shares valuable insights into the importance of data quality, privacy, and bias mitigation in AI-driven identity verification. Tune in to hear how IDnow is building ethical AI that genuinely protects our digital identities.…
 
In the wake of LexisNexis Risk Solutions' recent acquisition of IDVerse, Kimberly Sutherland, Global Head of Fraud and Identity, joins the ID Talk podcast to discuss the evolving landscape of digital fraud and identity security. Sutherland shares her insights on the growing sophistication of fraud threats powered by AI, the strategic thinking behind LexisNexis Risk Solutions' series of identity-focused acquisitions, and how businesses can effectively balance security with user convenience. She also highlights the importance of regulatory frameworks and collaborative intelligence in the fight against increasingly organized and global fraud networks.…
 
This week, ID Talk welcomes Colm Gannon, CEO of ICMEC Australia, for a discussion about the intersection of technology, privacy, and child protection. Gannon discusses how ICMEC collaborates with law enforcement, regulators, and tech companies to combat child exploitation, the challenges of balancing privacy rights with victim protection, and the role of technologies like facial recognition and AI in investigations. The conversation covers regulatory developments, including the EU’s AI Act, and explores how law enforcement can adopt innovative tools responsibly while ensuring proper oversight and governance. For more information on ICMEC and how you can help, visit https://www.icmec.org.au/…
 
In this episode of ID Talk, co-hosts Alex Perala and Tony Bitzionis sit down with Cyrus Hodes, an AI governance expert affiliated with the OECD and co-founder of The Future Society. Cyrus shares insights into the urgent need for global AI safety measures, the rise of deepfakes, and the challenges of governing rapidly evolving AI technologies. He discusses his work leading the OECD’s AI safety initiatives, the importance of decentralized governance, and his new venture leveraging blockchain for AI model evaluations. Tune in for an in-depth exploration of how generative AI impacts identity security, the global regulatory landscape, and why collaboration between global superpowers is essential to address AI's growing risks.…
 
In this episode of ID Talk, hosts Alex Perala and Tony Bitzionis sit down with Dario Betti, CEO of the Mobile Ecosystem Forum (MEF), to discuss the latest trends in mobile identity, authentication, and consumer trust. Dario shares insights from MEF’s meticulous reports revealing why trust in mobile services remains low, how SMS authentication is declining, and why emerging markets are leading the charge in digital identity adoption. The conversation also explores the role of AI in fraud and security, the rise of passkeys and biometrics, and how businesses can navigate evolving authentication challenges. Tune in for a fascinating discussion on the future of mobile identity and how MEF is working to facilitate serious discussion of these issues among all of the mobile ecosystem's stakeholders.…
 
In this episode of ID Talk, hosts Alex Perala and Tony Bitzionis are joined by industry analysts Danielle VanZandt (Frost & Sullivan) and Alan Goode (Goode Intelligence) for an in-depth discussion on the biggest digital identity and biometrics trends shaping 2025. The conversation covers key developments in the European Union’s Digital Identity Wallet (EUDI), the UK’s newly announced digital ID program, and the growing role of biometrics in retail and travel. The guests also discuss the rise of age verification laws, the impact of deepfake fraud, and the challenges of AI-driven identity threats. Plus, a bit of lighthearted speculation on how many times the EU’s Entry/Exit System (EES) will be delayed this year. Tune in for expert insights on what’s ahead for identity, security, and biometrics in 2025.…
 
This week on the ID Talk Podcast, Alex Perala and Tony Bitzionis sit down with Rob Sutton, HID's Director of Solution Enablement for Aviation and Travel. Rob shares his expertise on how biometrics and digital transformation are revolutionizing air travel. From regional challenges to groundbreaking technologies like facial recognition and mobile credentials, Rob offers fascinating insights into the future of seamless, secure travel. Don't miss his take on industry trends, a few quirky airport anecdotes, and what's next for air travel tech.…
 
Following Part 1 of our deep dive into 3D biometrics with FaceTec VP Jay Meier, the conversation delves even deeper into the innovations driving FaceTec’s technology—and its new UR code protocol. Jay highlights the transformative power of 3D systems over 2D systems, and explores how FaceTec’s system mitigates risks like presentation attacks and deepfake injection. He also outlines the groundbreaking UR Code concept, emphasizing that it's "a protocol, not a product." And it's one that could "revolutionize identity management on the internet."…
 
For ID Talk's first episode of 2025, FaceTec VP Jay Meier returns to dig into the technical underpinnings of his firm's new UR Code solution. The discussion explores the critical differences between 2D and 3D biometric systems, with Jay detailing the limitations of 2D systems, including perspective distortions and challenges with depth perception, and explaining how 3D technology provides a game-changing approach to accuracy and reliability in facial matching and liveness detection. The conversation also tackles the ongoing issue of bias in biometric systems, particularly regarding skin tone, and the real-world challenges of applying lab-tested solutions in diverse, uncontrolled environments. The discussion not only offers insights about FaceTec's 3D imaging technology, but also suggests important implications across biometric identity technology more broadly. This is Part 1 of a two-part discussion.…
 
In this episode of ID Talk, Alex Perala and Tony Bitzionis welcome back Rahul Parthe, CTO, Chairman, and co-founder of TECH5. They dive into the challenges and opportunities of building decentralized digital identity systems, especially in the Global South. Rahul explains how decentralization can enhance security, reduce costs, and protect privacy, while also fostering scalable national infrastructure. Tune in to learn how TECH5 is shaping the future of digital public infrastructure and the role of decentralized data exchange in creating more resilient and citizen-centric digital ecosystems.…
 
In this episode of the ID Talk podcast, hosts Alex Perala and Tony Bitzionis are joined by Frances Zelazny, Co-Founder and CEO of Anonybit, to explore the evolving landscape of biometric security and privacy. Frances dives into Anonybit's unique approach to decentralized biometrics, explaining how sharding and distributing data across multi-cloud environments helps prevent data breaches and fraud. She discusses Anonybit’s recent milestones, industry partnerships, and how the platform complements passkeys and FIDO standards to create holistic identity solutions. Frances also shares insights on the accelerating adoption of privacy-enhancing technologies, the convergence of digital and physical identity, and the challenges posed by deepfakes and shared accounts. With her passion for collaboration and industry enablement, Frances emphasizes why secure, inclusive, and privacy-centric identity systems are more critical than ever. Tune in to hear about the innovations shaping the future of identity, along with Frances’s thoughts on being recognized as an inspiring FinTech female of 2024 and her role as an advocate for responsible biometric use.…
 
This week, the ID Talk podcast welcomes Karl Holmqvist, founder and CEO of Lastwall, to explore the pressing challenges of cybersecurity in the age of quantum computing. Lastwall's focus is on securing critical infrastructure through identity and credential solutions, and Karl delves into how technologies like behavioral and cognitive biometrics are shaping the future of authentication. The conversation tackles the looming threat of quantum computing to traditional cryptography, the urgent need for quantum-resilient systems, and practical strategies for organizations to transition to this new security paradigm. With insights from Karl's experience advising governments, including work with the White House and NATO, this episode offers a compelling look at the intersection of identity technology and quantum resilience. Show Notes: Karl's Quantum World Congress talk: https://youtu.be/A1uMP3ICvtY?si=rnMmSCNPu0OQLeIj .…
 
This week, the ID Talk podcast welcomes Blair Cohen, the Founder and President of AuthenticID. Blair is a serial entrepreneur with over three decades of experience in identity verification and fraud prevention. He shares his journey from founding one of the world’s first background screening companies to pioneering innovations in digital identity, including the development of automated facial recognition and forensic document examination technologies. The conversation dives into key issues shaping the identity technology landscape, such as the rise of organized crime in digital fraud, the evolution of government ID verification, and the technological advancements powering AuthenticID's platform. Blair explains the complementary differences between the company's proactive Velocity Check solution and its reactive Fraud Shield system, while also offering insights into behavioral biometrics, identity proofing standards, and the importance of robust fraud detection in protecting both consumers and enterprises. This episode offers a fascinating look into the dual evolution of digital fraud and identity assurance technology. Whether you’re a tech professional, a business leader, or simply curious about how cutting-edge solutions are keeping your data safe, you won’t want to miss this in-depth discussion with one of the field’s leading innovators.…
 
On this week's episode of the ID Talk podcast, FaceTec's Jay Meier returns to answer some follow-up questions about his firm's innovative new "UR Code" solution. Whereas Jay had previously offered an overview of the solution, which essentially ties the biometric and biographic data of a registered individual to a QR code, this time he delves into some of the more technical aspects of the protocol, while also fleshing out the big picture of what it means for identity verification. Among other things, Jay explains the essential role of the “encoder” software, which extracts and formats user data from government databases, such as a DMV’s profile for a driver's license, to create a secure UR code. The conversation also dives into the importance of liveness detection for biometrics, a feature designed to ensure that only live, in-person scans are validated, adding a robust layer of security against fraud. Jay highlights how different vendors, like FaceTec, Idemia, and Paravision, each use proprietary algorithms for biometric data extraction, ensuring compatibility but protecting unique data formats. For institutions from DMVs to banks, UR codes offer a new way to streamline identity verification without compromising security, and Jay discusses potential applications, from digital driver’s licenses to banking and remote identity verification. And he underscores the fact that this new protocol isn't strictly wedded to FaceTec's own biometric liveness technology, offering opportunities for rivals to leverage the system. It could prove to be a tide that lifts all ships.…
 
This week, the ID Talk podcast welcomes Terence Kwok, the founder and CEO of Humanity Protocol—a blockchain-based digital ID project that uses palm vein biometrics to verify that each of its users is indeed a real human being, and not a bot. Having only just launched this year, Humanity Protocol is a very new project. But it has gained steam quickly, having drawn 25,000 registrations within the first 24 hours of the launch of its testnet, and quickly racing to accrue hundreds of thousands of users, as Kwok reveals in this interview. He also details some of the technical aspects of how the system works, discusses what's special about building on blockchain, and outlines some of his ambitious plans for where Humanity Protocol is going next. The conversation offers a fascinating look at how some of the most cutting-edge technologies of today are converging to create a new digital identity ecosystem, with Kwok bringing a lot of candor to the conversation—including his thoughts on the "head start" that rival World (formerly "Worldcoin") has attained with its controversial iris-scanning platform, a competitive challenge that he seems to welcome. Also discussed in this episode: Americans, your calls and texts can be monitored by Chinese spies https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/02/china-spying-telecom-trump-harris-fbi-cell-phone/ New App Combines Smart Glasses, AI, and Facial Recognition to Access Personal Data in Real-Time https://idtechwire.com/new-app-combines-smart-glasses-ai-and-facial-recognition-to-access-personal-data-in-real-time/…
 
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