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“If we march into that village and we start trying to persecute people for using poison, something that's very illegal, nobody's going to talk to us. We're not going to find out where the poison came from. We're not going to be able to shut anything down. We should take the approach that people are using poison because they're desperate, because they see no other alternative.” – Andrew Stein Andrew Stein is a wildlife ecologist who spent the past 25 years studying human carnivore conflict from African wild dogs and lions in Kenya and Botswana to leopards and hyenas in Namibia. His work has long focused on finding ways for people and predators to coexist. He is the founder of CLAWS , an organization based in Botswana that's working at the intersection of cutting-edge wildlife research and community driven conservation. Since its start in 2014 and official launch as an NGO in 2020, CLAWS has been pioneering science-based, tech-forward strategies to reduce conflict between people and carnivores. By collaborating closely with local communities, especially traditional cattle herders, CLAWS supports both species conservation and rural livelihoods—making coexistence not just possible, but sustainable.…
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This chapter will be split into two. Partly because it makes for more episodes, partly because it will leave room for future authors’ commentary, but mostly because my nose decided to fill itself with mucus halfway through this episode. Regardless, I hope you enjoy!
After listening to this episode myself, I just realized I refer to Billie with the wrong pronoun once. It will now take the rest of my day to emotionally recover from this. Anyways, I hope you enjoy!
In this new series, I will be reading the first draft of my new book “Good Company”. It will be unedited, perhaps even a bit rough, but it will be fun. Thanks for listening!
I miss you, grandpa… Always will. May those white birds watch over you.
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