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In this episode, we welcome back David French, columnist for The New York Times , former constitutional attorney, and author of Divided We Fall . We discuss the current state of American democracy, the challenges of political division, and how we can engage in civil discourse despite deep ideological differences. David also shares a personal update on his family and reflects on the profound trials and growth that come with adversity. 📌 What We Discuss: ✔️ How David and his family navigated the challenges of a serious health crisis. ✔️ The rise of political polarization and the factors driving it. ✔️ Why distinguishing between “unwise, unethical, and unlawful” is crucial in analyzing political actions. ✔️ How consuming different perspectives (even opposing ones) helps in understanding political dynamics. ✔️ The role of Christian values in politics and how they are being redefined. ⏳ Episode Highlights 📍 [00:01:00] – David French’s background and his journey from litigation to journalism. 📍 [00:02:30] – Personal update: David shares his wife Nancy’s battle with cancer and their journey as a family. 📍 [00:06:00] – How to navigate personal trials while maintaining faith and resilience. 📍 [00:10:00] – The danger of political paranoia and the pitfalls of extreme polarization. 📍 [00:18:00] – The "friend-enemy" paradigm in American politics and its influence in Christian fundamentalism. 📍 [00:24:00] – Revisiting Divided We Fall : How America’s divisions have devolved since 2020. 📍 [00:40:00] – The categories and differences of unwise, unethical, and unlawful political actions. 📍 [00:55:00] – The balance between justice, kindness, and humility in political engagement. 📍 [01:00:00] – The After Party initiative: A Christian approach to politics focused on values rather than policy. 💬 Featured Quotes 🔹 "You don't know who you truly are until your values are tested." – David French 🔹 "If we focus on the relational, we can have better conversations even across deep differences." – Corey Nathan 🔹 "Justice, kindness, and humility—if you're missing one, you're doing it wrong." – David French 🔹 "The United States has a history of shifting without repenting. We just move on." – David French 📚 Resources Mentioned David French’s Writing: New York Times David’s Book: Divided We Fall The After Party Initiative – More Info Advisory Opinions Podcast (with Sarah Isgur & David French) – Listen Here 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack David French: 🔗 Twitter | BlueSky | New York Times Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…
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Unruly is a new podcast from the award-winning body hair and care brand Flamingo, hosted by author, curator, and critic Kimberly Drew. Each week on Unruly, we unpack the quiet ways women’s bodies are commodified, defined, and regulated by social media, the medical profession, the beauty industry, and more. Then we name them, out loud — because information is power, and your body is your business. The series also highlights the work of Flamingo’s social impact partners who seek to empower and educate by promoting body neutrality and mental health. New episodes drop on Wednesdays.
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Unruly is a new podcast from the award-winning body hair and care brand Flamingo, hosted by author, curator, and critic Kimberly Drew. Each week on Unruly, we unpack the quiet ways women’s bodies are commodified, defined, and regulated by social media, the medical profession, the beauty industry, and more. Then we name them, out loud — because information is power, and your body is your business. The series also highlights the work of Flamingo’s social impact partners who seek to empower and educate by promoting body neutrality and mental health. New episodes drop on Wednesdays.
Women are often taught to silence themselves and that can have damaging effects. On our last episode of the season, psychologist, writer and speaker Maytal Eyal joins host Kimberly Drew to discuss her Time Magazine article: “Self Silencing is Making Women Sick.” We get into Maytal’s research, what’s at stake when we don’t express ourselves fully, and how we can work together to fight against these toxic cultural norms. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
Female athletes have fought uphill battles for equity and respect for about as long as sports have existed. Their bodies and uniforms are under intense scrutiny from the public, the press and athletic institutions. In this episode, we talk to Olympic Shot-Putter Raven Saunders, who pushes back on archaic athletic dress code standards – she famously wears a Hulk mask when she competes. We get into her Olympic experience, what it means to push wardrobe boundaries, and how coming to peace with herself and her body is a huge part of how she expresses herself through clothes and through sports. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
How is it that menopause, something that can affect half the population, also manages to be among the most understudied and least understood bodily phenomena? This week, journalist Susan Dominus talks with host Kimberly Drew about how a landmark study on hormone therapy for menopausal women was misunderstood in the media creating panic and long-term repercussions on the way women’s symptoms were treated. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
Being a person with a uterus means you sometimes face the question of when, how, or if you’re going to have kids. This week, we hear from anthropologist and “The Mating Gap” author Marcia Inhorn, PhD, MPH, about the way society makes these decisions even harder for women today. We learn about the history and science behind egg freezing, as well as the real reason women are electing to delay pregnancy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
Vaginal atrophy, geriatric pregnancy, incompetent cervix- why can medical terminology around women’s bodies be so shaming?! In this week’s episode, “Vagina Obscura” author Rachel E. Gross talks with host Kimberly Drew about the long shadow of the patriarchy over the medical profession. She walks us through how it’s shaped the way we talk about our bodies, how we understand vital body parts like the clitoris and the ways in which language impacts the treatment we receive as patients. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
How do we decide which beauty products we use, and are those choices really our own? This week, writer and beauty culture critic Jessica DeFino, author of the Substack The Unpublishable, sheds light on the alarming power of the beauty industrial complex. She and Unruly host Kimberly Drew unpack terms like “anti-aging” and how we are sold products under the guise of empowerment. In this episode, we learn how to divest from the idea of external beauty as inherent self worth. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
Welcome to Unruly. This season, host Kimberly Drew and a slew of smart guests tackle the quiet ways women’s bodies are regulated every day. From social media to the medical profession to entrenched societal assumptions about womanhood, we want to educate and support each other. Because information is power, and your body is your business. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
Welcome to Unruly. We take the quiet ways women’s bodies are commodified, defined, regulated and we name them– out loud. In this week’s episode, host Kimberly Drew talks with Body Image coach Tiffany Ima (@tiffanyima) about how we learn to love ourselves in a world that still heralds thinness as greatness. We clear up the distinction between body neutrality and body positivity, call out diet culture trends, and unpack the sneaky ways social media keeps us dissatisfied with our physical appearance. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
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