Come take a (sometimes boisterous, other times blasphemous) tour around the crypto art world with the Museum of Crypto Art’s founder, Colborn Bell, and lead writer, Max Cohen.
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DXM pod is a weekly podcast hosted by Colborn Bell of the Museum of Crypto Art and DMINTI. Each week we explore the intersections of fine art and NFTs in the context of Web3 experiences and their promises for future creativity. For each episode we conduct digital collection walkthroughs, or engage in long format interviews with artists, curators, technologists, and other thought leaders, and share news and educational segments. DXM unpacks complexities found in the burgeoning cultural and ar ...
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MOCA LIVE: A Shaky Foundation, Platform Desperation, Saying Goodbye to Middlemen, and Choosing a "Local" Crypto Art
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Today, Max and Colborn look into the vociferous response to former minting platform, Foundation, realigning itself as a social-media-based business (and one that looks a whole lot like the site our own Colborn helped to build), and try to tease out its meaning. Is a slow rug inevitable? Are all remaining platforms doomed to grasp at any nearby stra…
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MOCA LIVE: A Borderline Pathological Level of Ambition, Conceptual Artistry, and Reaching Audiences with Kevin Esherick
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Today, a conversation all about conceptual art with the conceptual artist, essayist, and AI dilettante/explorer, Kevin Esherick. Having tackled dense conceptual topics in AI, generative aesthetics, things relating to life and the self and the spirit alike, Kevin is the perfect person to discuss making conceptual art communicable online, the way ins…
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An Economic Oil Slick, Free Mints, New Incentives, and the True Motivation of a Crypto Artist
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Today, Max and Colborn begin by breaking down a few of the elements that led to the previous week's worldwide economic bludgeoning, and why bad economics might be useful for crypto art's revolution. Then, the two discuss the motivations for crypto artists in a financialization-less ecosystem, the rise of free mints, the value of ubiquity, and what'…
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MOCA LIVE: The End of the Metaverse As We Know It, RIP Polygonal Mind, and an AI Metaverse with Untitled,XYZ
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Today’s podcast takes a long, frank look at the foundation, the uproar, and the ultimate downfall of the “Metaverse,” as we knew it. Metaverse architect maestro, Untitled,XYZ, joins Max and Colborn to talk about the Metaverse’s early moments, its final moments, the fall of the Metaverse studio, Polygonal Mind, videogames, AI, and what Metaverse mig…
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MOCA LIVE: Criticizing Crypto Art Criticism, Who Gets to Create Context, and Being Trapped by One's Style with Eleonora Brizi
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Max and Colborn welcome the curator and critic, Eleonora Brizi, back to the podcast for the 3rd time (!!!) to dive deep on crypto art's many problems with criticism. The three will tackle the lack of criticism in crypto art, and what has in many ways replaced it. They'll go into the difficulty of creating criticism while honoring crypto art's value…
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MOCA LIVE: Night of the Living Bots, The AI Agent Devolution, and the Juiced Number Incentive
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Today's episode is all about bots: automated programs, AI agents, procedural scam artists, if it's performing an action without direct human intervention, we're breaking it down and talking about why it's important. Whether bots are used to juice follower numbers, mislead investors, or create artificial cultural ephemera, there's no denying their o…
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MOCA LIVE: The Impossibility of Innovation, AsyncArt's Legacy, and The Maslow's Hierarchy of Crypto Art Needs with Conlan Rios
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Today, Max and Colborn welcome a crypto art legend, and one one of the founders of Async.Art, Conlan Rios, to talk innovation in crypto art: Can innovation occur sustainably from the business end? How can a business survive sustainably in crypto art? Drawing from three years running AsyncArt, a leading creative crypto art plaform, Conlan dissects t…
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MOCA LIVE: Crypto Art's Failing Business Model, Killing Platforms with Values, Royalties, Criticism, and Bubbles
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On today's episode, Max and Colborn dive headfirst into the noxious swamp that is crypto art's business environment. They trace crypto art businesses from early years until today, discuss the difficulty of running a sustainable business in crypto art despite rising crypto prices, wonder whether our values are incompatible with survival, debate crit…
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MOCA LIVE: What Does Crypto Art Value, Remembering the Cypherpunks, Data Scientists and AI, with Martin Lukas Ostachowski
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This week, Max and Colborn welcome the remarkable cloud artist and crypto art historian, Martin Lukas Ostachowski (MLO) to the podcast to plumb through the past for the values that crypto art holds dear, if there are any. Join us as we go back to the cypherpunks, through the creation of Bitcoin, back and forth through many years of crypto art to se…
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MOCA LIVE: Airing Our Crypto Art Grievances (And There are a Lot of Them) with ROBNESS
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In a crypto art world always on the edge of flaming-up into fury, Max, Colborn, and special guest ROBNESS spill a bunch of gasoline everywhere and light a match. The three will vent their deepest grievances about collectors, generative art, AI, art contests, and much more. Listen now...if you can handle the heat.…
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MOCA LIVE: Where Audiences Wander, Twitter is Terrible, Subscription Services, and If Warpcast is the Future with Max Jackson
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On this week's episode, Colborn and Max (Cohen) welcome the OG crypto artist Max Jackson to MOCA LIVE for a discussion of, not art necessarily, but all those who love it. Audiences is the day's topic, and the three discuss the best (and worst) ways of finding an audience, what having a crypto art audience even means, the death of Twitter's reliabil…
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MOCA LIVE: The Collector's Condundrum, Art We Don't Want, and the 10 New Definitions of Crypto Art with Artnome
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On today's podcast, Max and Colborn welcome the legendary collector, writer, thinker, and crypto art forefather, Artnome, for a conversation about all things collecting and crypto art history. Beginning with the question "What do we do with art we no long like?" and opening up into a discussion of good vs. bad art in general, the trio eventually co…
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MOCA LIVE: The Collaboration Revival, Did Artblocks Kill Collaborations?, and the Line Between Collabs and Derivatives with George Boya
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Max and Colborn are joined by the OG crypto art collage artist George Boya for a podcast about collaborations, free artistic spirits, and creative processes. Inspired by George's recent series of collaborative pieces, Partners in Crime, the three go in depth on the importance of collaborations in crypto art culture, why the collabs suddenly ended (…
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MOCYah or MOCNah: Moonbirds' CC0 Nightmare, Taking Advantage of Platform Incentives, Honoring Dead Artists, and an Existential Economy
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Max and Colborn are back (with sound effects!) to assign archaic denotations of value to the biggest recent news stories (and end up spiraling into head-scratching discussions). This week, it's Yuga's questionably-illegal reverting of Moonbirds' commercial rights away from CC0, Latasha using Zora incentive fees to help recoup the losses from a wall…
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MOCA LIVE: Embracing Your Pain, Confronting the World's Pain, and Anonymity with a Purpose with AwfulEye
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In what feels like a particularly painful moment for everyone, Max and Colborn are joined by the multitalented artist, Awful Eye, to discuss...pain. Awful Eye's own story is one of pain and triumph and bravery, and their conversation today discusses Awful Eye's life, then and now, how he approaches identity in a space that sometimes reduces its mem…
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MOCA LIVE: The State of Almost Everything (in Crypto) with Max and Colborn
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Today's podcast takes advantage of a quiet time in crypto art to decode, dissect, and predict the future for five fundamental segments of the crypto world. Max and Colborn try to get a sense for the current state of Crypto Art, AI, the Metaverse, Cryptocurrency, and Crypto Culture. Five segments, five underlying questions, a veritable smorgasbord o…
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MOCA LIVE: The New Face of Memecoin Fever, Incentivizing Artistry, 747Crash, and Correctly Making Memes with Anubis3100 and Sirsu
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A perfect accompaniment for the post-NFTNYC trip home, this week's episode of MOCA LIVE is an intellectualized look at everyone's favorite internet-addled, gambling mechanism: memecoins. Colborn and Max talk with Anubis3100 and Sirsu, founders of the 747Crash coin, about how memecoins, despite their degenerate reputation, can actually be a powerful…
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MOCYah or MOCNAH: Base Frenzy, Highly-Intelligent Discourse, Cultural Appropriation, and NFTNYC
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On today's MOCAYah or MOCNah, Colborn and Max first look towards the attention moving towards the Base blockchain, as a result of a million-minted XCOPY edition there. Then, they dissect a cultural appropriation conflict between artists Claire Silver and CyberYuyu, and debate the role of highly-intelligent, academic discourse in both crypto art tod…
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MOCA LIVE: AI as we Know it (and as we don't), A History of StableDiffusion, and Feeding the Open-Source World with Huemin
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Max and Colborn sit down with the great AI artist, an original StableDiffusion contributor, and founder of DeForum.art, Huemin, to get into the weeds about how various AI models actually work, how AI art as we know it came to be, how we can get more AI into more hands with more expertise, and the all-important Open-Source Development community: Kee…
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MOCA LIVE: A Metaverse State of the Union, WIPMeetup Memories, and Evolving Online Communities with Rizzle and Niftytime
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Today's episode is all about the Metaverse, and who better to speak about it with than the hosts of the longest-running web3 Metaverse meetup (and crypto art OGs), Rizzle and Niftytime. From their early history with TheWIPMeetup, to building a Metaverse audience, to a long debriefing on where the Metaverse is today, Rizzle and Niftytime evoke five …
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MOCYah or MOCNah: A Billion Dollars is a Sickness, Choosing Rich, More Degeneracy, the Kevin Rose Coffin
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Today's MOCYah or MOCNah tackles all the degeneracy in crypto and crypto art of late. That means Crypto Nick and choosing rich! It means Darkfarms1's logic-defying $BOME token! It means Kevin Rose being hopefully, mercifully gone from our lives for good! And it means a whole lot more discussion of Solana vs. Eth, cycles of degeneracy, and much more…
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MOCA LIVE: Crypto Art Going Wrong (and Right) in Reality, Lessons from a Performance, and Prioritizing Participation with OONA
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On her record-breaking 3rd MOCA LIVE appearance, performance art extraordinaire OONA joins Max and Colborn to talk live performances, live events, how they go so right and so wrong, maximizing participation/discourse/creativity we meet face-to-face IRL, and so much more. Prepare for laughs, nihilism, and maybe even a few good ideas.…
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MOCA LIVE: Redefining Crypto Art Curation, and All About TASCHEN with Robert Alice
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Max and Colborn take a long look at crypto art curation with the curator and writer of TASCHEN's On NFTs, Robert Alice. With Mr. Alice's art historical, curatorial, and cultural expertise on full display, the three discuss the nitty-gritty creation of a giant crypto art book, decentralizing curation, whether or not crypto art is dead, and stories f…
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MOCYah or MOCNah: SHLOMS' Sunset, NFTParis, TASCHEN and Morrow Curations, and Art Prices in ETH or USD
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Max and Colborn are back, and this time, they're playing for keeps. Listen and marvel as your two hosts affix the label of MOCYah or MOCNah to all the latest current events, from SHLOMS' latest performance art, the vibes at NFTParis, the curatorial decisions made by TASCHEN and Morrow Collective, and the return of a fan favorite argument "ETH or US…
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MOCA LIVE: The Web3 Censorship Crisis with Natrix
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Today, Max is joined by the multifaceted artist, foundational crypto art writer, and censorship whistleblower, Natrix, to take on the dirtiest topic in "web3": How censorship —by platforms, by Twitter, and by the culture itself— infects everything that happens here. It's a conversation that ranges from Natrix's own experiences being censored, why c…
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MOCA LIVE: An Entirely New AI Art-Form, Technocrats vs. the Treehuggers, and Artists Becoming Worldbuilders, with Aleqth
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This week's MOCA LIVE is a revelation about all things AI. Max and his guest, the artist and Makingit24/7 member Aleqth, explore a unique perspective on the philosophy, subtleties, and possibilities of AI artistry. From marketplaces for custom-designed datasets and the unstoppable proliferation of symbols, to the evolution of artists into worldbuil…
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MOCYah or MOCNah: The VisionPro Crystal Ball, The Auction Houses Advancing, Botto's Big Sale, and Ownership in the AI Age
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Max and Colborn finally return and to a newly-formatted weekly podcast: MOCYah or MOCNah! Taking on stories, topics, sales, and tidbits from around crypto art, and separating them into one of two overly simplistic bins: Good or bad, and why. Getting the Yah/Nah treatment today: Apple's newly-released VisionPro, auction house sales of poetry and NFT…
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MOCA LIVE: Taming the AI Beast, Magnified AI Education, Open-Source Models, Martians, and More with Gene Kogan and Vanessa Rosa
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Max welcomes the artists/researchers/educators Gene Kogan and Vanessa Rosa to the podcast for another AI-centric episode. This time the conversation gets in the weeds about using AI to create connections between mediums, the layperson's changing understanding of AI, the necessity of AI education, where we can find the artist's heart in an AI artwor…
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MOCA LIVE: Turning the World Into Meat, Celebrating Art Through Parody, the Twitter Abyss, and Crypto Art's Seriousness Problem with Diewiththemostlikes
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On an episode covered in flies beside a highway off-ramp sex shop, Max and Colborn talk to provocateur and ground-beef purveyor, Diewiththemostlikes, about remixing eons of art in his own image, the power of parody, the social media abyss, the importance of keeping comedy in crypto art, and how looking deeply into the void is actually a kind of sup…
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Current Events and Company: A RarePepes Super Show!
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Goodbye Current Events (for the moment), hello Current Events and Company! Colborn and Max are joined by a whole cavalcade of guests to discuss all things RarePepe, from the OG project's inception and influences, its expansion into every tiny little facet of crypto culture, its incredible memetic longevity, and the true value of the original RarePe…
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MOCA LIVE: Crypto Art's Past, Present, and Frustrating Future with Moxarra and Eleanora Brizi
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On today's podcast, Colborn and Max are joined by the curator, Eleanor Brizi, and the OG crypto artist, Moxarra Gonzalez, to talk about crypto art's humble beginnings, it's most important early figures, Moxarra's position as crypto art's resident journalist, the tired and the trite and most exciting parts of crypto art's present, and much more.…
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Current Events: The Bitcoin Spot ETF Super Show!
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After the SEC announced this week that Bitcoin Spot ETFs can be traded on the U.S. stock exchange, Max and Colborn do a deep dive into what these ETFs are, why it took so long for their approval, and what this means for crypto and crypto art in both the short-term and long-term. Then the two revisit some of the best and worst Bitcoin ETF tweets in …
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MOCA LIVE: Preserving Every Single Thing, Warring Over Data, Keeping Receipts Forever, and Stories from the Early Internet with Danny O’Brien
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On today's podcast, Filecoin Senior Fellow Danny O'Brien joins Max and Colborn to explore the good, the bad, the dangerous, and the experimental aspects of preserving absolutely, positively everything on the internet. Danny takes us through the cultural wonders of preserving an art movement, the fight Filecoin is fight, the good and bad of having e…
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Current Events: Steamboat Willie Copyright, Ordinal Madness Continues, A $10000 Buzzsaw, and the Inaugural MOCYah/MOCNah
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On the first Current Events of 2024, Max and Colborn hit all the stories they missed over the holidays, including crypto art's reaction to the Steamboat Willie copyright ending, the continued fervor around Ordinals, the U.S. Government's new law requiring KYC for all large crypto transactions, and Avalanche courting the PFP ecosystem. They end with…
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MOCA LIVE: The First Annual New Years Resolutions Show!
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On 2024's inaugural podcast, Max and Colborn are back with their professional, personal, and crypto-art-wide New Years resolutions! Join us for a wide-ranging and joyful ol' discussion about returning to the art, radical abundance, determining our own values, and much more!By Museum of Crypto Art
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The MOCA LIVE 2023 Awards Show Extravaganza!
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It's the First Annual MOCA LIVE Awards Show! We give out awards for all sorts of things —good, bad, ugly, completely FUBAR— that happened in 2023. It's a trip down memory lane, for better and for worse, with your uproarious hosts, Max and Colborn. Join us for laughs, tears, a frankly unsettling amount of curse words, and our thoughts on a pretty nu…
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Current Events: Why Keep AI a Secret, Influencer Cabals, Hack Szn, and Solana Having a Big Moment
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On Current Events this week, Max and Colborn talk about an AI scandal and whether artists should have a responsibility to disclose AI use, how artist/influencer cabals work, a week full of various crypto hacks (are we back?), and why so many artists seem to be moving towards the Solana ecosystem.By Museum of Crypto Art
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MOCA LIVE: Destroying AI Monoculture, We’re Sick of Homogeneity, Growing Up in an AI World, and Speculative Archives with Linda Dounia
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Max and Colborn are joined for the second time by artist, curator, and TimeAI100 laureate Linda Dounia for a deep-dive, all-encompassing AI power-talk. Linda leads us into a conversation about homogeneous AI monoculture, how it affects us, why we're sick of it, and how to destroy it outright, before we go off on a series of tangents: Where does cul…
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Current Events: All Hail the TezPole, An EtherRocks Return, and Why Humanity Always Wins Out in Art
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This week, Max and Colborn talk about the TezPole phenomenon from a few angles: The beautiful community response, the pathetic Tezos foundation, the best and worst of crypto art, all wrapped up in one chicken-wire-wrapped cylinder. After that, they discuss why EtherRocks are selling once again, the merging of RugRadio with Decrypt Media, and what p…
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MOCA LIVE: Creating the Strangest Possible Worlds, Keeping AI Weird, PsiPsiKoko, and Creating Narratives with Frenetik Void and Julian Brangold
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Max and Colborn are joined by the two brilliant Argentine artists, Julian Brangold and Frenetik Void, for a chaotic discussion of all things AI, starring their strange, provocative, oddly-endearing AI-assisted collaborative project, PsiPsiKoko (which you have to see to believe). The conversation ranges from using AI as a tool vs. treating it as a c…
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Current Events: Are We Actually Back?, Bitcoin at 40k, Another Lame Male-Dominated List, ROBNESS on Ebay, and Aliens
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Max and Colborn start off discussing what Bitcoin breaking $40,000 (at long last) means for crypto and crypto art, if anything at all. They go on to discuss Observer's male-dominated list of blockchain art power brokers, ROBNESS taking his JPEG talents to Ebay, why crypto art won't make the traditional art world play by it's own rules, and aliens.…
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MOCA LIVE: Crypto Art’s Artificial Rift, A Cloying Need for Mainstream Acceptance, The Importance of Exhibitions, and Chaos Theory with Clay Devlin
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Joining Max on the show this week is Subjective.art curator and creative director, Clay Devlin. The two talk about Clay's now-extensive experience curating IRL exhibits that bring together physical, digital, and crypto artists and audiences, the roots of crypto art's crisis of individualism, how connected crypto art really is to mainstream artistry…
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Current Events: A Refik vs. Jerry Bloodbath, Matt Kane and Operator’s Performative Brilliance, and Destroying Ourselves with Seriousness
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This week, Max and Colborn talk about the seeming blood-feud between artist Refik Anadol and critic Jerry Saltz, how multi-layered performances by Matt Kane and Operator are stretching the crypto art paradigm ever-higher, why crypto art continues to take itself so seriously and how that's hurting us, and more!…
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The Foundational Texts of Crypto Art: Hugo Ball’s ”Dada Manifesto”
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A wild and wacky podcast as Max and Colborn attempt to breakdown a wacky and wild document: Hugo Ball's 1918 "Dada Manifesto," which may or may not have elevated modernism to new heights in Europe. This is a text about nonsense, the absurd quite literally, giving things names and taking them away, the invention of an entirely new language. As crypt…
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MOCA LIVE: Crypto’s Pumping, the Prodigal Sons are Returning, Everyone is Fighting, and Maybe Pak Started A War
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Max and Colborn are here for the return of the cryptocurrency market, and here also for the supposed return of many uncommitted crypto art folks who may or may not have gone MIA during the bear market. Many people don't like that, they think of these people are opportunists. Others celebrate them as mental-health-prioritizing geniuses. We break dow…
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The Foundational Text’s a Crypto Art: F.T. Marinetti’s ”The Futurist Manifesto”
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For this one, Colborn and Max go way back to 1909, because it was there that F.T. Marinetti announced an intention to embrace speed, technological advancement, violence, militarism, growth, and acceleration at all costs. Yes, The Futurist Manifesto —patron document of Futurism— is somewhat freaky, but throughout he course of our conversation, it's …
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MOCA LIVE: Is Crypto Art Killing Culture, The Plight of the Anonymous Artist, and Bridging the Digital/Physical Divide with Gossamer Rozen
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Gossamer Rozen is our guest this week, and as such, this is a conversation about two things Gossamer has embraced throughout their career: culture and dualism. Culture: Gossamer's artistry almost universally speaks in the language of specific cultures, ones Gossamer can trace their own roots back to, or ones they admire. Dualism: Gossamer moves bac…
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The Foundational Texts of Crypto Art: Artnome’s ”What is CryptoArt?”
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Journey far back to 2018, and listen as Colborn and Max discuss what is perhaps crypto art's most important single text (and that which gave it its name): Artnome's 2018 article "What is CryptoArt?" In this podcast, Colborn and Max break down the 10 characteristics common to all crypto art, which Artnome theorized at the time, breaking down how the…
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MOCA LIVE: Does the World Still Need Photography (YES!), Mastering Many Mediums, The Plight of the Multimedialist, and The Old World Embracing New Technologies with Aaron Huey
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I can sit here and list superlatives for the photographer-turned-Olympic-multimedialist Aaron Huey all day, so I'll say only this: This was a cant-miss opportunity to dive into the mind of a 30-time National Geographic photographer/Nonprofit founder/new technology explorer and discuss so many thing in such great detail. We talk Metaverse, AI, the b…
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The Foundational Texts of Crypto Art: Eric Hughes’ ”A CypherPunk’s Manifesto”
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Welcome to the first Current Events miniseries! Over the next four weeks, we tackle four of the most important influences on crypto culture, crypto art culture, and all the values we hold dear. Up first, Eric Hughes' 1993 "A Cypherpunk's Manifesto," a document that directly influenced the Bitcoin mission, that tackles privacy in the online age, and…
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