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Finding beauty through open, connecting conversations on life’s transitions. We are Lindsay and Shantil - two friends who love good conversation, connection, and expanding our view of the human experience. Through life’s inevitable transitions, we began recognizing the extraordinary shifts in others’ seemingly ordinary lives. In awe of people’s ability to find beauty amidst challenge and change, we created this space to share and learn from their inspiring stories. Follow along on Instagram ...
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With a general interest in the outdoors, and more specifically rock climbing, theDIHEDRAL Podcast brings together people from all walks of life who share an endearing devotion to “the outdoors”. We sit down with guests who share a warm predilection for mother nature and the possibilities she presents to us all. Our mutual interests in rock climbing, hiking, writing, growing, and exploring brought us together. We hope you find our eccentric little “corner” of the universe just as inviting as ...
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Finding Meaning & Spirituality Beyond Religion with Britt Hartley
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Today Britt shares her story of being a devout member of the LDS church including being a seminary teacher, to deconstructing her beliefs and entering a stage of nihilism, to finding meaning and spirituality beyond religion, and now practicing spirituality in a tangible and beautiful way. We discuss concepts and tools she uses with her clients and …
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Living with Hydrocephalus, Founding a Company, and Doing the Next Hard Thing with SarahAnn Whitbeck
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Today SarahAnn shares her story of being diagnosed with Hydrocephalus and living with this chronic life-threatening condition for over twenty years. She shares about founding the Chest Wall Injury Society where she works as CEO, and how she has gone through life facing mortality and embracing fear and beauty. SarahAnn is incredibly smart and inspir…
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Learning Grit and What's Really Important from Your Child with Health Issues with Nathan Garn
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Today we are joined by Nathan Garn, Shantil's husband, who shares the experience of having their oldest son Payton born with a life-threatening condition (spinal meningitis, which led to hydrocephalus, which led to a severe seizure disorder). Nathan and Shantil share the challenges and life lessons they've learned from Payton having grit and findin…
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Ben Hanna - Craglist Playlist, 90's Style
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Send us a text He’s sent over 50 routes at 8b+ or higher. Every video he’s in is an absolute must watch, he’s got a signature hold series that will blow your mind, and a simple scroll through his instagram page will reveal that he might have the best musical taste in the history of ROCK climbing. Join us as Carrot and Ben Hanna build together the p…
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Life is in the Transitions with Bruce Feiler
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Today we have a guest we've been hoping to have on the podcast since the beginning! Bruce Feiler, a New York Times bestselling author, joins us to share what led to writing his book Life is in the Transitions and discuss its crossover with our podcast. We talk about the types of transitions we go through in life, what Bruce learned from interviewin…
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Today is our first episode of Season Three of the podcast! We share some thoughts going into this new season, some exciting guests we have coming up, and reintroduce ourselves and the theme of the podcast. We can't believe we are starting our third season of doing this and can't wait to dive into more guest stories with you all, gaining new perspec…
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Growing Up with Dads with Jeffrey & Bryce
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Our last re-release of the summer! This was our last episode of Season One and one of our top-listened episodes. Jeffrey and Bryce are a gay couple living in the suburbs of Salt Lake City and share about raising their twins through the gift of surrogacy along with other life experiences and thoughtful perspectives. They are such a great couple and …
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Send us a text Join us as Carrot chats with David Edmonds about his philosophical work and the creative process behind Philosophy Bites on this new episode of theDIHEDRAL Podcast. David Edmonds is the author of several books including Wittgenstein's Poker, Rousseau’s Dog, Would You Kill the Fat Man, and Undercover Robot, My First Year as a Human. A…
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Best Friends Through Unimaginable Loss and Rare Health Condition Share 10Ninety Principle & More with Mason Sawyer & Sam Josie
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Today's re-release is a conversation from Season One that had such great impact on us and is one of our most listened-to episodes of all seasons. In 2021, Mason's family was involved in a fatal car accident that took the lives of his wife, daughter, son, brother, and nephew. Sam was born with a rare form of Dwarfism that affects bone growth and dev…
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Surviving and Overcoming Addiction with CARRIE BUTLER
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In today's re-release, Carrie shares her powerful story of surviving and overcoming a deep addiction to prescription drugs. Carrie exemplifies incredible strength and resillience, turning weaknesses into strengths, and that through our flaws we can connect and heal together. A survivor of the opioid epidemic, she aims to help others gain hope, heal…
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Dr. Kimbrough Moore - Think Deep, Climb Higher
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Send us a text Kimbrough is an author, rock climber, and philosopher who teaches philosophy at San Francisco State University, and climbs all over the great state of California. He has written three guide books including Golden State Bouldering, Yosemite Bouldering, and Black Rock Bouldering. Among other pieces, Kimbrough has co-authored work on a …
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The Other Side of Fear with RYAN SMART
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Our second re-release of the summer! Ryan shares his story of leaving corporate America to start his interior design firm, Smart Studio Designs, even when he felt it was risky and too late. Ryan has lived in various places, introducing him to people and cultures that have shaped who he is today. His story is sprinkled with interesting and important…
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Today we have our first re-release of the summer, our episode with Shantil's sister Kari, which was also our very first episode! Kari shares about being a survivor of a suicide attempt as a teen, being a birth mother, an entrepreneur, and the healing and hope she has experienced as she has learned mental health tools and grown into adulthood. Kari …
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Dr. Roman Yampolskiy - Artificial Intelligence: Definitions and Danger
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Send us a text Dr. Roman Yampolskiy is a well published author with over 100 academic papers and numerous books to his name. including Artificial Superintelligence: a Futuristic Approach, and AI: Unexplainable, Unpredictable, Uncontrollable. He has presented his work all over the world including testimony in the legislature. Join us a Carrot and Dr…
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Our last episode of Season Two! Today we have a fun conversation highlighting episodes and topics we've had this season, talk about plans for the podcast over the summer, and what we have in the works for Season Three. We also share the top five listened-to episodes of the season and touch on our purpose for the podcast. We're so grateful to our gu…
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LDS Faith Transition and Reframing Values and Spirituality with TAMARA JACOBS
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Today we are joined by Tamara Jacobs, one of Lindsay's closest lifelong friends! In this thoughtful conversation Tamara shares about her LDS faith transition including her experience growing up in the church, what led to her faith transition, and how she has reframed and rebuilt values and spirituality. Tamara shares aspects of deconstructing that …
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How Living the Unexpected Life & Learning From Failures Can Lead to Reaching our Potential with LMFT HEATHER SEVERN CALLISTER
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Today we have such a fun, meaningful conversation with Heather as she shares how tulips, cake, and basketball shoes relate to her story and the theme of living the unexpected life and learning from failures. Heather shares about her son who has down syndrome and autism, is tube fed, non-verbal, and medically complex, and how each of us will have ti…
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Understanding Family with Borderline Personality Disorder, Overcoming Mental Health Struggles, and the Importance of Social Health for Our Youth with LMFT David Kozlowski
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We're so excited to have David Kozlowski from the OG Therapy Podcast and Light the Fight Podcast with us! Today David begins by sharing his personal story of growing up with family members with Borderline Personality Disorder, how he experienced multiple concussions and a suicide attempt while playing football at the University of Utah, and facing …
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theDIHEDRAL - Climbing and the Local Community
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Send us a text On this episode, Carrot is joined by his climbing mates from "the morning crew". He spends nearly every Tuesday and Thursday morning with them and in this occasion he brought them together in order to talk about community. Join us as Carrot and the crew talk about climbing, community, and their local gym! Host: Carrot Producers: Carr…
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Parenting Transitions, Why We Love the Good Inside Method & Parenting Episode Highlights
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Today it's just us, chatting about parenting! We start by talking about some parenting transitions in our own lives. Then we chat about Dr. Becky Kennedy and her book Good Inside, why we love this parenting method, and some helpful tips we've taken away from her book and the ideas she shares. We wrap up by highlighting guests we've had on this seas…
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Neurodiverse Parenting Journey with MARGARET WEBB
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Today we are joined by Margaret who shares her story of parenting her son who is neurodiverse and on the autism spectrum. She shares lessons she learned that changed the way she was experiencing parenting and her relationships with her son, husband, and herself. We discuss letting go of judgment in parenting, following our intuition, helpful strate…
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Raising, Loving and Advocating for Her Son with RACHEL BARKER
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Rachel is a wife of 30 years, mother of five children, and has two beautiful grandchildren. Today Rachel shares the touching story of adopting her son Noah, who is now 13, and what it has been like raising a Black son in Utah. She shares about the gift of adoption, the delightful person Noah is, and is honest and vulnerable about some of the challe…
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Coping with Loss of Twin Sister to Addiction and Having a Spouse Deployed with KARI HEAPS
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Kari is a wife, mother of two young children, and an adjunct instructor in the department of Filmmaking, Art & Design at Southern Utah University. Today Kari shares about her husband's recent deployment to Africa where he will serve for the next nine months and how she and her kids are adjusting to him being away. She then shares about the tragic p…
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theDIHEDRAL - Beyond Climbing w/ Courtney Schatz
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Send us a text On this episode, Carrot sits down with climber and podcaster+youtuber, Courtney Schatz to discuss her projects, multimedia, climbing, and the ramifications of the sport in the art we create, which go beyond the discipline! Her YouTube Channel Court Climbs is a gift to the climbing world, and you can also listen to her on the ever-eng…
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Surviving the Empty Nest Phase, Finding Peace through Life's Storms, and Faith Evolution with SUSIE AUGENSTEIN
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Today we are joined by the amazing and wise Susie Augenstein! Susie shares her experiences and lessons learned on some recent significant life transitions she's been through including the empty nest phase and how to find peace through life's storms. She then shares about her faith evolution as a member of the LDS church, as a former bishop's wife a…
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Living an Expanded Life Through Entering the World of Disability, Focusing on Adventure, Love and Gratitude with JORGE FONT
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It's our Spring Break week, so today we are re-releasing an episode we had last spring with the incredibly inspiring Jorge Font. At 19-years-old Jorge was in a waterskiing accident and became a paraplegic. In this conversation Jorge shares his journey since then including challenges, lessons learned, and how ultimately his life has expanded in ways…
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Poetry and Friendship as a Catalyst for Survival and Healing with DEBORAH and ELIZABETH
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Today we are joined by Deborah Tobola and Elizabeth Buckner who have been friends for close to 25 years, brought together by being teachers at the same prison and a shared love of poetry. Both from California with unique backgrounds including living during the hippie era, they share their individual stories and traumas they've endured through the y…
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Language of the Human Experience from Brene Brown's Atlas of the Heart & Meaningful Themes from Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmus
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Today we chat about some recent books we've read (some of you may have read along!). Whether you've read these or not, we've structured this episode so you can listen and take away some highlights and meaning from each book. We start with Atlas of the Heart by Brene Brown, which draws on her research over two decades, mapping connection and languag…
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Finding Peace in Running, Faith Journey Leading to Pursuing Wisdom, Curiosity, Compassion, and Acceptance with JORDAN STUART
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Today we are joined by Jordan Stuart who is a trail runner, husband, and father of three. Jordan shares how an LDS faith journey led to pursuing wisdom and concepts bringing expanded perspectives and peace, as he remains active in the LDS church. Jordan shares a few of the concepts he's studied and contemplated, and we have a discussion about them …
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theDIHEDRAL - Plato and the Allegory of The Cave
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Send us a text Join us as Carrot, our in-house philosopher, goes over Plato's famed Allegory of The Cave. What even is reality and are we willing to face our lives caved and facing a black wall? Trust Plato to lead the way out! Learn more about one of the most influential passages of The Republic. If you are interested in reading The Republic, you …
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Becoming an Influencer and Entering Adulthood with ASHLUND JADE ORTIZ
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Today Ashlund Ortiz joins us, who is a 21-year-old Instagram influencer from Riverton, Utah. We get to hear what led Ashlund to become an influencer, what it has been like to enter her 20s, and the ups and downs of young adulthood. Ashlund is fun and relatable and it's interesting to get a glimpse into what this career path entails. She shares insi…
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Blessed By Three Children with Down Syndrome, Adoption, Twins, Lots of Love and Chaos with KECIA COX
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Today we are joined by Kecia who is a mother of seven children including three with Down Syndrome. Kecia shares what it was like to become a special needs parent, how adoption comes into their story, having twins, and much more. Kecia shares what this journey has been like and beautifully explains the shifts and adjustments she has made along the w…
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Finding Love at Any Age, Learning to Love Yourself, and Relationship Tips with KATIE BYRNE
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It's our Valentine's Day episode, and it's such a fun one! Today we get to talk with Katie Byrne who is a wife, mother of three young children, and our first guest from the UK, living just outside London. Katie shares about finding love later in life and what led her to becoming a coach helping women, primarily over 35, transform their relationship…
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Growing Up In and Leaving Polygamy, and Building a New Life Together with SAM & MELISSA
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Sam and Melissa have been married nine years, have two young children, and are the creators and hosts of the popular YouTube Channel Growing Up In Polygamy (GUIP). Today Sam shares his experiences growing up FLDS in Southern Utah including being raised in a loving family with four mothers and 36 children. We hear what it was like being in the sect …
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Britt Zale & Kaya Lindsay - Welcome to Climb Moab
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Send us a text Britt Zale and Kaya Lindsay are two of the most well respected climbers in Moab, and they are also the founders of Moab’s new climbing gym, Climb Moab! Join us as Britt and Kaya go over the inception of Climb Moab, the connections created along the way and a very productive mid-life crisis epiphany! For more information about Climb M…
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Taking Back Your Health, Founding a Fitness Gym & Becoming a Business Owner with LAREE SCHUENMAN
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LaRee is a wife, mother of five, and founder/owner of StayFitt Training. Today LaRee shares her story of making changes toward a healthy lifestyle which led to pursuing nutrition and fitness education, starting a fitness group in her home, and eventually founding her own business and opening a community fitness gym, all during and soon after Covid …
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The Commodity of Connection with Molly Bice-Jackson (aka smallyspice)
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Molly is a wife, mother, and woman of many talents including singer/dancer/actress, emcee, copywriter, author, founder of the nationally recognized non-profit "A Good Grief," and keynote speaker on the Commodity of Connection. Today Molly shares about the journey she's been on since the loss of her firstborn daughter 15 years ago, thoughts on vario…
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Hella Transitions (Into College and Adulthood!) with WHITNEY GARN
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Thanks to Whitney herself for helping us out with this title! Whitney is a 19-year-old college student, plays soccer for Salt Lake Community College, and is Shantil's daughter! Today Whitney shares several big life shifts she's been through in the past year including adjusting to a challenging first semester of college, deciding to play soccer at t…
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Living Into Your Values for the New Year with Our Friends Tasha and Stephanie
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Today is a special episode with our friends Tasha and Stephanie on living into our values. First, we chat about the Beautiful Shifts Bookclub we are starting for 2024 (listen in for more details). Then we are joined by Tasha and Stephanie and, using Brene Brown's exercise/worksheet on identifying values, we each discuss which values stand out to us…
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Anything BUT Climbing - Mary Catherine EDEN #8
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Send us a text Ringing in the New Year with one of the greats! Mary Catherine Eden, popularly known as Tradprincess, granted us the honor to join us for an Anything But Climbing session. With Mary's recent sends of both Necronomicon and the 5.14b Black Mamba In Canyonlands Utah, not only has she made inverted off-width cool again, but she has put B…
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Words for the New Year & Re-release with Holly Wever: Impermanence, Equanimity & Letting the Light In
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Today we share some thoughts on the New Year and fun things we have coming this year for the podcast. We then explain a few meaningful words to consider going into the New Year shared by Holly Wever in our conversation with her last year, which we are resharing today. Holly shares what she learned through the major life transition of losing her sis…
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Holiday Episode - Traditions, Giving & Listener Submissions!
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This week we asked for listener submissions of holiday traditions and stories of kindness/giving during this time of year to share. We read these and share some of our own, and about guests we've had on the podcast with charities to support. It was fun hearing what people had to share and chatting about holiday things! We hope you all have a wonder…
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Lifelong Teacher Dedicates Retirement to Serving Refugees, and Ways to Help Refugee Community with DON WARD
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Today we get to talk with the amazing Don Ward, a lifelong teacher who is now 82-years-old and has been serving the refugee community in Utah for over 15 years. Mr. Ward is everyone's favorite teacher! He taught AP U.S. History and Student Government at Jordan and Alta High Schools in Sandy, Utah, for 35 years (and was a teacher of Lindsay's!). He …
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The Giving Grinch Charity and Serving Community with Miss Utah Volunteer GENTRY ROSE
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Gentry Rose is currently Miss Utah Volunteer, working toward her nursing degree, and involved in the non-profit charity her mom Sheena founded, The Giving Grinch, which gives to those in need at Christmastime and year-round. Gentry shares what led to becoming Miss Utah Volunteer, choosing to become a nurse, how a love for service was fostered in he…
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JL Collins - Pathfinders and Financial Freedom
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Send us a text On this month’s episode of theDIHEDRAL Podcast we were joined once again by one of our favorite guests, JL Collins. He is the award-winning author of The Simple Path to Wealth and has just released his follow up book, Pathfinders. Join us as JL reminds us that Financial Independence can mean different things to different people, illu…
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How Poetry Saved My Life: From L.A. Gang Member to Poetry Teacher with JORGE NUNEZ
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Today we have a very special episode with Jorge Nunez. Jorge's story is unique, eye opening and incredibly inspiring. Jorge shares how he emigrated from Mexico to the U.S. at age two, was raised on the streets of L.A., fell into the gang life at a young age and what that was like. He wrote his first poem while serving time in a probation camp for b…
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Today we don't have a guest, it's just us sharing a few thoughts on gratitude! We also chat about some of our recent guests who have brough gratitude into their stories and some simple ideas of ways to incorporate gratitude into our lives. We hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving week! Thank you for listening! Find Beautiful Shifts on Instagra…
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Following Intuition Through Infertility, Faith Transition & Influencing with TERILYN ADAMS
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TeriLyn joins us to share about her fertility journey as well as several other pivotal life transitions she's been through including faith transition and her career move from the corporate financial industry to blogging about running to becoming a fashion influencer. TeriLyn shares details about her journey with fertility that are helpful for anyon…
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Finding Your Worth: Healing from Betrayal, Trauma & Murder of Husband with ASHLEE BOYSON
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Ashlee is a speaker, teacher, victim advocate, writer and mother of seven. In today's episode Ashlee shares her story of the infidelity and murder of her husband in 2011, just months after giving birth to their fifth baby. She shares her healing journey, finding her voice, knowing her worth, and helping others. Ashlee has grown to love sharing her …
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Ken Gobalet & Bruce Kinnison - Legends of Tuolumne
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Send us a text Ken Gobalet and Bruce Kinnison are known among other things for putting up first ascents in Tuolumne over 55 years ago. Their routes are still well documented and well climbed. Join us to hear about the development of climbing in Tuolumne from a pair of guys who were there from the start. Our friend and vet of the show, MIT and Ameri…
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