People love my conversations with Amy Wax. Fresh off the news that Penn has sanctioned her for making very politically incorrect but mostly true statements, she’s back on the podcast to talk about the whole experience. See here for our first discussion, which focused on immigration, and the second in the midst of the ordeal she was going through wi…

Political commentator and contrarian (but don’t call him that) Richard Hanania talks about his transition from callow supporter of Barack Obama through the fringes of Internet reactionary libertarianism and back to good old fashioned American conservatism, only to find that such a thing hardly exists any more. He tells us that Trump is bad, the Cov…

New York’s favorite criminal is in the news, so here is our episode about his ridiculous life. To hear all of our bonus episodes, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPodBy Michael Hobbes & Peter Shamshiri

Is fact-checking a legitimate enterprise? Is America's most famous fact-checker nothing more than a dweeb? Michael and Peter discuss. To hear the rest of the episode, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPodBy Michael Hobbes & Peter Shamshiri

Substack now allows collaborative livestreaming. Rob Henderson and I gave it a try last night. Still got some kinks to work out, but it went well. Give me any feedback you have. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like you can see what people were typing in the chat. Perhaps that option will be added in later. One thing I like about Substack is you see a…

When Richard Spencer (follow on X, Substack) asked me to appear on his podcast, I was a bit hesitant. Ever since our past relationship became public, I’ve wanted to forget my earlier writing career ever happened. Talking to Spencer again would just remind me and everyone else of a time in my life I’d rather ignore. That said, I’ve been paying atten…

A memoir about parenting very badly and then getting weirdly defensive when anyone asks you about it. Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: Effects of Authoritative Parental Control on Child Behavior, Child Development Types of Parenting Styles and Effects On Children Does “Tiger Parenting” Ex…

Science Fiction author and journalist Jon Del Arroz was canceled before being canceled was cool (2016) and sued WorldCon for banning him in 2018. He discusses author communities, latinx armor, being both marginalized and having white privilege, crowdfunding for comics, Trump Derangement Syndrome, the twist of no twist, small presses, Marion Zimmer …

The Honorable Justice Elspeth B Cypher (Retired) left her appointment on the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts to become the most-interviewed yet least-heard Heterodorx guest. Cypher discusses the Biden administrations attempts to replace sex with gender in Title IX, and the efforts of 20+ states and Moms for Liberty to push back. We also cov…

Last month, I had a meeting with Dennis McCarthy (newsletter here), who is one of my readers. He encouraged me to read the two books he had written. At first, I thought it was highly unlikely that I would simply based on probabilistic reasoning, since I get way too many reading suggestions to take them all up. But as I talked to Dennis, I realized …

The Heteroducks quack about the bee stings, Covid spikes, and personal lockdowns that canceled their long-anticipated Portland trip. Then Cori “Ice Cream” Cohn pleads for nuance in considering 5-ARD males competing in women’s sports categories. He argues it is solely the fault and responsibility of the International Olympic Committee, and our rage …

Is social media to blame for the teen mental health crisis? It's complicated! Thanks to Emily Weinstein, Amy Orben, Andrew Przybylski, Dean Burnett, Michael Mullarkey and Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz for help researching and fact-checking this episode! Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: Emily Wei…

Journalist, denominational mutt, and little-o orthodox Christian Brandon Showalter covers the “gender beat” at the Christian Post. He fills us in on how gender ideology is infiltrating churches, and answers: What is a Christian? What is gnosticism? How do denominations differ? What are human rights? What state has the worst drivers? (Maryland.) We …

Before White Guilt afflicted American liberals, the Russian intelligentsia set a precedent of their own. Famous professor of Russian literature Gary Saul Morson joins the Dorx to talk about Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s literary masterpiece The Gulag Archipelago, which leads to so much more: the self-hatred of educated people; political orthodoxy; peer …

To celebrate ("celebrate") Donald Trump choosing JD Vance as his running mate we are re-releasing our "Hillbilly Elegy" episode. Enjoy!

Proud Heterodork and super-smart lawyer Candice Jackson is so done dispensing with niceties. Returning 2 years after our first interview, she lays out how gender identity erases sex, skepticism of “third spaces,” obstacles in classifying gender ideology as a religion, what the Legislative and Executive branches of the US government are supposed to …

Eric Kaufmann is a research fellow at CSPI and a professor of politics at the University of Buckingham. He joins the podcast to talk about his new book, Taboo: How Making Race Sacred Produced a Cultural Revolution. Eric explains its thesis, which holds that the taboos around race that arose in the 1960s expanded into other areas of life and eventua…

Peter and Michael discuss "The Origins of Woke," a glimpse into the dark aspirations of the Republican Party and the mind of a very unusual man. Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: What Speech Does "Hostile Work Environment" Harassment Law Restrict? Tunis v. Corning Glass Works, 698 F. Supp.…

Libertarian Party candidate for US President Chase Oliver forced a runoff election in Georgia in 2022, is a former Democrat, loves guns, hates taxes, was disappointed in Obama, is the first openly gay presidential candidate on most ballots, is dyslexic and dysgraphic, likes audiobooks, would like to weaken the office of President, will be 39 in Aug…

Jules Louise was same-sex attracted, but more importantly she wanted to be a Good Person and “safe space for others” — so wound up married to a man. How did that happen? In this nuanced, heartfelt, and open conversation, Jules recalls her indoctrination into an ideology which destabilized her understanding of the world and herself, and her later em…

Bess Stillman (email) is a doctor at the Mayo Clinic and writes at Everything Is An Emergency. She is also an excellent storyteller who uses her skills to convey the hectic and at times heart wrenching experiences one faces as an ER doctor. Bess is married to Jake Seliger, who in 2022 was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma. She has written a th…

Cori and Nina visit Saint Mary-of-the-Woods and witness several miracles, including light tailwinds both directions of Nina's 168-mile bike trip, not having to play Spirit Island, and an epiphany or two while praying the rosary. Will Cori minister to the trannies? Is Nina distinguishable from a Sister of Providence? Have you heard the Good News abo…

Eli Steele’s documentaries challenge narratives favored by guilty white liberals such as Nina before she got ejected from her own tribe. His latest, Killing America, connects the demise of honors classes and other merit incentives in US schools, with the rise of “liberation ideologies,” antisemitism, and the erasure of history. We discuss The Age o…

British-Palestinian writer and analyst John Aziz joins the Dorx to repeat his wacky, out-there thesis: Israelis are not going anywhere, Palestinians are not going anywhere, both groups have legitimate claims to the land, and both must forge a realistic future of peace. This is unfortunately controversial. Aziz emphasizes Israel is not Vietnam or Af…

Peter and Michael discuss the media coverage of the protests at Columbia — from the crazed, bloodthirsty ravings of right-wing media to the more muted, respectful bloodthirst of centrist media. To hear the rest of the episode, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPod

Is the ⁠video game developer⁠, computer programmer, ⁠GamerGate⁠ veteran, and ⁠aspiring politician⁠ “based” for ⁠recent statements⁠ against antisemitism? To find out, the Dorx invited Wu for an interview that lasted 2-and-a-half hours and is therefore broken into two parts. PART TWO: An increasingly contentious discussion of Jesse Singal, journalist…

Is the video game developer, computer programmer, GamerGate veteran, and aspiring politician “based” for recent statements against antisemitism? To find out, the Dorx invited Wu for an interview that lasted 2-and-a-half hours and is therefore broken into two parts. PART ONE: A friendly conversation about eyebrows, makeup, Zionism, antisemitism, Gam…

It would take a butcher to butch up Corinna enough to satisfy those clamoring for his detransition. Fresh from the UnSpeakeasy retreat in Louisville, the Dorx also discuss the Kohein priestly caste, street work, rimshots, shock collars, and Pronoun Ripple ice cream. Is Cori a homunculus dressed in a woman suit? How many cavities does he have? Does …

Rob Henderson joins the podcast to talk about his book Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social Class. The conversation starts with a discussion about the recent controversy in which Rob was unable to find a book store that would host his launch. Rob also shares insights into his writing style, which focuses on conveying his experience…

Peter and Michael discuss Michael Lewis’s bestselling book about the rise and fall of Sam Bankman-Fried, a young prodigy whose only flaw was that he dreamed too big. Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: Michael Lewis Is Buying What Sam Bankman-Fried Is Selling Michael Lewis Likens Critics of …

What happens when an inquisitive, naturally hopeful, critical-thinking civics-oriented teacher educator gets a position in an Office of Equity, Social Justice, and Multicultural Education? She gets fired for not being "the right kind of Black person", and then speaks out about it while developing better alternatives for schools. Dr. tabia lee joins…

Beth Bourne is a lifelong Democrat, mother of an estranged trans-identified daughter, and model of courage in the belly of the beast that is the Golden State. After years of receiving slow and inattentive medical service, she told Kaiser Permanente she identified as non-binary and suddenly had speedy access to attention, validation, and any “gender…

2 Better 2 Angels Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPod Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: Jeffrey Epstein’s Science of Sleaze Pinker’s response to Epstein allegations How Jeffrey Epstein Captivated Harvard Jeffrey Epstein Hoped to Seed Human Race With His DNA It’s Offic…

Independent Scientist and emerging public intellectual J.D. Haltigan left academia for a life of forced leisure and blue-collar employment, but he’d rather pursue his passion for psychological research at an institution. He joins the Dorx to discuss Covid masking, psychopathology, bike helmets, denial of death, the neurotic anxious failure to devel…

Romina Boccia is the director of budget and entitlement policy at the Cato Institute, where she writes about government spending, the debt problem, and entitlement reform. She also has a Substack called the Debt Dispatch that you can subscribe to here. Romina joins the podcast to discuss available paths to deal with the coming entitlement crisis. O…

Cyd Zeigler started OutSports in 1999, gradually shifting focus from “pro sports from a gay men’s fandom angle” to all things LGBTQ++, including trans athletes. He joins the Dorx to argue for inclusion of male trans athletes in female categories. From chess to football, Zeigler believes every sport can and should be treated differently; that sex ca…

We're finally discussing a good book! Naomi Klein's "Doppelgänger" chronicles the long, steady descent of another Naomi — Wolf (buddy oof) — from feminist icon to crank conspiracist. To hear the rest of the episode, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPodBy Michael Hobbes & Peter Shamshiri

After Nina welcomes self-described autoandrophile and pervert advocate Aaron “The Contraaron” Terrell with a deliberate misgendering, the two adult human females discuss male sexuality while actual male Corinna mostly bites his tongue. Topics include Terrell’s surprising shift from hetero- to homosexuality on exogenous testosterone, pretty privileg…

Brian Chau writes and hosts a podcast at the From the New World Substack, and recently established a new think tank, the Alliance for the Future. He joins the podcast to discuss why he’s not worried about the alignment problem, where he disagrees with “doomers,” the accomplishments of ChatGPT versus DALL-E, the dangers of regulating AI until progre…

In 2013, Sheryl Sandberg became an icon for women who wanted to move from middle management at a tech company into upper management at a tech company. Today, Peter and Michael examine the contents of her bestselling book, survey the wreckage of corporate feminism and ask whether women will finally find liberation in the Metaverse. Where to find us:…

When Things need to get done, it’s people like Ellen Daehnick who do them. Daehnick recently retired from her high-powered career to become a full-time “Unpaid Gender Crank”, focusing on legislation. She describes her first time testifying to the Colorado state legislature against CO House Bill 1071, which welcomes felons to change their legal name…

Last year, case manager Jamie Reed blew the whistle on the gender clinic that had employed her for almost four years. Today, she faces an even more frightening challenge: being a guest on the Heterodorx podcast. Jamie’s impeccable lefty credentials never prepared her for Corinna’s relentless sarcasm, let alone what she witnessed in the medical syst…

Canada is not merely America’s Hat; it’s also home to Eva Kurilova and Lois Cardinal, a TERF-Tranny duo rivaling the Heterodorx in both hardliner contempt and world domination. We discuss womanface, tribal identities, the sterilization of First Nations youth, aging, Feminized Eunuch Males (FEMs), Medical Assistance In Dying (MAID), do-it-yourself g…

This week we're tackling Steven Pinker's 900 page dissection of the reasons why violence, torture and war have declined over the last 10,000 years. Was it an indeterminate mixture of politics, economics, technology and serendipity? Or did some European guys write some books that said murder was bad? Special thanks to Philip Dwyer, Eleanor Janega, D…

Corinna and Nina rant and complain about the current “Gender Critical” online discourse. What is a lesbian? Is Corinna gay, or homosexual? Is DARVO a floor wax, or a dessert topping? Although we perpetuate the problem by talking about it, by the end we propose a solution. You’ll hear lots of misgendering, talk of Nina’s sex-pozzie San Francisco day…