Best Roberta Blevins Podcasts (2024)

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77: [Vanessa Reiser] The Treachery of No Empathy 33:38

3h ago33:38

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Content Warning: emotional, mental, and physical abuse, narcissistic abuse, and mental illness. Vanessa Reiser is a licensed social worker, therapist, and an abuse survivor from New York. Her personal and professional histories have been deeply varied, but what remains to be constant are her tenacity and strength. She has reinvented herself and her…

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Episode 245 : Lori Adams-Brown 1:29:50

4d ago1:29:50

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I met Lori in the most "Roberta" of all places, in the line for the Taco Buffet at a Podcast event and invited her to come sit at our table. Little did I know that that small act of kindness would end up becoming one of the most interesting conversations I had the entire weekend, and in that moment I knew I had to have Lori come share her story and…

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76: [Holly K. Dunn] As Long as I Have My Voice 39:15

7d ago39:15

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Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, violence, brutality, murder, and serial murder. Holly K. Dunn is an author, speaker, non-profit founder, and the sole survivor of a serial killer. As Holly began her junior year of college, she and her boyfriend Chris were attacked not far from Chris’s fraternity party by a murderer who was dubbed The Railroad…

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Episode 244 : "Stitch" 1:11:36

11d ago1:11:36

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When I put out the call to action a few weeks back for more Cutco/Vector Marketing content, I was pleasantly surprised with the response! When we start digging into trying to figure out an MLM, it seems each chat clears up some things, but opens more questions about others and this conversation with "Stitch" was no different. We chat about how Cutc…

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75: [WCN Presents] SWW S11 E11 Updates 34:01

13d ago34:01

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Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, child sexual abuse, nonconsensual pornography, and suicidal ideation. Season 11, Episode 11 of Something Was Wrong entitled [Dara] Very Sorry, first aired on February 23rd, 2023. The episode poignantly shared Dara’s account of a sexual assault she experienced while on her Spring Break Senior trip. However, her…

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Episode 243 : Apostate Alex Returns! 1:21:51

18d ago1:21:51

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Apostate Alex returns to update us on the happenings of Scientology in the UK, and Michelle is back too! According to Alex, he's been "a bad, bad, boy" and has a lot to report on the Anti-Scientology protests and the shady government involvement that's been keeping him busy the past 7 months. The jokes alone are worth the trouble. He also shares hi…

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74: [Matt Cohn] The Human Cost Is Too High // Part 2 43:31

20d ago43:31

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Content warning: suicidal ideation, suicide, substance abuse, substance use disorder, violence, brutality, institutional abuse, child abuse, physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse, cults, kidnapping, and the troubled teen industry. As shared in Part 1 of his story, Matt Cohn is a business professional and musician from Los Angeles, Californi…

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Episode 242 : Mitch Brisker 1:39:40

25d ago1:39:40

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Mitch Brisker was a 23 year old heroin-addicted film school drop-out when he found Scientology in Downtown Hollywood. Through recovery, he went on to become a successful commercial director and caught the eye of Scientology’s notorious leader, David Miscavige. Mitch ultimately became the chief architect of Scientology’s global propaganda machine, c…

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73: [Matt Cohn] Thrilled to See the Stars // Part 1 26:58

27d ago26:58

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Content warning: violence, brutality, institutional abuse, child abuse, physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse, cults, kidnapping, and the troubled teen industry. Matt Cohn is a business professional and musician from Los Angeles, California. His personal history with What Came Next host, Amy, begins in the early 2000s when they were connect…

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Episode 241 : Shannon Vavich Part 2 1:08:16

1M ago1:08:16

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In Part 2 with Shannon, we get deeper into the reasons why MLMs are prevalent in the lives of military spouses, both as representatives and customers. Shannon also shares with us, some of her side hustle journey to where she is today, and offers lots of job advice for those leaving MLM and transitioning into doing their own thing. From gig work and…

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72: [Andrea Dunlop] Stories That Need to be Told 33:37

1M ago33:37

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Content warning: child abuse, sexual assault, medical abuse, factitious disorder, factitious disorder imposed on another, and munchausen by proxy. Andrea Dunlop is an author, podcaster, and victim advocate from Seattle, Washington. Although her career began in the fictional literary world, Andrea found herself compelled to share her family's experi…

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Episode 240 : Shannon Vavich Part 1 1:05:18

1M ago1:05:18

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Shannon reached out to me because it's time for her to tell her story, and I was happy to oblige. She's a military spouse and mother and she had some things she needs to get off her chest when it comes to MLMs and the US Military. In Part 1 Shannon and I discuss the times she found herself in Mary Kay, and the gross recruitment tactics that were us…

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71: [Eric Johnson] This Isn't the End of His Story // Part 2 33:28

1M ago33:28

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Content warning: mental illness, animal abuse, animal cruelty, violence, domestic violence, and murder. As shared in Part 1 of his story, Eric Johnson is a security professional, author, co-victim of murder, and victim advocate from Michigan. He launched himself towards a career designed to protect and serve the safety of consumers at a very young …

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Episode 239 : Cristie Stogner 1:15:05

2M ago1:15:05

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Not everyone who joins an MLM has a horrible experience, some people join MLMs to have some fun, make some friends and get a decent discount on a product they can't seem to live without. With some questions and concerns about her current MLM, Cristie reached out to me to find answers. She loved the products, her upline was great, and she was seemin…

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70: [Eric Johnson] Time Stood Still // Part 1 29:32

2M ago29:32

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Content warning: mental illness, animal abuse, animal cruelty, violence, domestic violence, and murder. Eric Johnson is a security professional, author, co-victim of murder, and victim advocate from Michigan. He launched himself towards a career designed to protect and serve the safety of consumers at a very young age. However, his career in victim…

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Episode 238 : Kimberleigh 1:09:06

2M ago1:09:06

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Kimberleigh is a member of our Discord and wanted to share her story of being in BOTH Cutco, a famously "masculine" MLM, and BeachBody, a famously "feminine" MLM and how different the experiences were with not only product and culture, but recruitment and FOMO. And as a special added bonus, Kimberleigh gives us some tips and suggestions for beefing…

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69: [Tabatha Ross-Brown] Believed Instead of Blamed 40:10

2M ago40:10

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Content warning: domestic violence, domestic abuse, physical, verbal, mental, and emotional abuse, child-to-parent violence, child-to-family violence, sibling abuse, elder abuse, intrafamilial abuse, murder, and familicide. Tabatha Ross-Brown is a Michigan familywoman, certified mental health support specialist, victim advocate, and founder of the …

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Episode 237 : The 2024 MLM Conference 1:07:55

2M ago1:07:55

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I took my laptop and a microphone to the MLM Conference to chat with people on break! I took all that audio, plus my own thoughts and experiences and created a fun episode about what happens at the con when the zoom is paused. If you're looking to be a part of the 2025 MLM Conference, please reach out and I will get you in touch with the Steering C…

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68: [Roberta Blevins - Amazon’s LuLaRich] True Con 36:39

2M ago36:39

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Episode content warning: cults, cultic behavior, multi-level marketing, MLMs, pyramid schemes, ponzi schemes, white collar crime, scams, and fraud. Roberta Blevins is a mom, business owner, consumer protection & victim advocate, and podcaster from Southern California. She began her professional life as a creative multi-hyphenate who juggled several…

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Episode 236 : Shelly Snow Pordea 1:08:27

2M ago1:08:27

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*This episode includes topics on child abuse, purity culture and child sexual abuse. Please use discretion when listening.* Shelly Snow Pordea was raised as an Independent Fundamental Baptist, and experienced CSA at a very young age, in fact too young for Shelly to process what had happened to her. It wasn't until a tent revival style sermon about …

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67: [Madison McGhee] Ice Cold Case 41:05

2M ago41:05

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Content Warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, gun violence, murder, and unsolved murder. Madison McGhee is a producer, documentarian, podcaster, and co-victim of murder from West Virginia. After learning about her father’s unsolved murder in her teen years, Madison devoted herself and her future career to bringing awareness about her fa…

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Episode 235 : Casey 1:15:57

2M ago1:15:57

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We watched the documentary "The Curious Case of Natalia Grace" on Discord and were FLOORED by the entire production. From the horrific story of child abuse to the sensationalized, dramatic storytelling, something always felt slightly off and prompted more questions than it ever answered. In this bonus episode we have listener and Discord Member Cas…

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Episode 234 : Shanny Payton 1:28:44

2M ago1:28:44

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*Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about infertility, adoption and foster care. Please use discretion when listening.* Shanny grew up in a strict Evangelical cult where her entire life as a woman was planned out for her. First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes the baby in the baby carriage, right? But what happens when …

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66: [Brandon Andres Green] A Loud & Effective Beacon 44:15

3M ago44:15

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Content warning: substance abuse, substance use disorder, illegal commerce, physical, sexual, and emotional abuse, physical and sexual violence, torture, abduction, and trafficking. Brandon Andres Green is a father, familyman, survivor of abduction, trafficking, and torture, and immensely strong victim advocate. He faced trauma as a youth in Oklaho…

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Episode 233 : Andrea, Terra & Roberta! Podcast Crossover! 46:53

3M ago46:53

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Last month I got to go to Podcast Movement Evolutions in Downtown Los Angeles and record a fun crossover episode with some of my favorite podcasting ladies at Spotify Studios! HUGE THANK YOU to Spotify for the use of the space and your hospitality! And it was so great to hang out with and collaborate on content with Andrea Dunlop and Terra Newell! …

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Episode 232 : Meg Appelgate 1:26:18

3M ago1:26:18

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Trigger Warnings : This episode talks about child abuse, kidnapping and CSA. Please use discretion when listening. When she was just 15, Meg Appelgate was abducted by two strangers in the middle of the night from her home in California. Over the course of the next 6 months Meg would enter a behavioral modification program called Chrysalis in northe…

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65: [Seth Gehle] It's Not A Sad Story // Part 2 30:19

3M ago30:19

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Content Warning: physical, emotional, and mental abuse, addiction disorder, substance abuse, substance use disorder, rape, statutory rape, child abuse, sexual abuse, child sexual abuse, extrafamilial child sexual abuse, serial sexual abuse, suicidal ideation, and suicide. As shared in Part 1 of his story, Seth Gehle is a father, veteran, speaker, a…

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Episode 231 : Ann 59:52

3M ago59:52

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It was just past year that Anne took pause and started digging into her admittedly "weird childhood". After listening to the podcast Nobody Should Believe Me, she started to suspect that she may have been the victim of medical child abuse, what is more commonly known as Munchausen by Proxy. With an unhealed and unwilling mother to answer her questi…

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64: [Seth Gehle] I Could Never Escape // Part 1 24:14

3M ago24:14

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Content Warning: physical, emotional, and mental abuse, addiction disorder, substance abuse, substance use disorder, rape, statutory rape, child abuse, sexual abuse, child sexual abuse, extrafamilial child sexual abuse, serial sexual abuse, suicidal ideation, and suicide. Seth Gehle is a father, veteran, speaker, and victim advocate from Ohio. Seth…

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Episode 230 : Sandy Rusk 1:34:05

3M ago1:34:05

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Last year I received a heartbreaking email from a mother who had felt she was running out of options; her daughter was stuck in a controlling cult, isolated from friends and family, and she hadn't seen her in years. Over several months I met with Sandy to discuss her story and the history behind how she got here. The more I heard the more I wondere…

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63: [Alexis Garcia] Brought to Light 42:11

3M ago42:11

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Content Warning: gun violence, child abuse, sexual abuse, childhood sexual abuse, intrafamilial child sexual abuse, abduction, kidnapping, attempted kidnapping, suicidal ideation, and suicide. Alexis Garcia is a mother, survivor, and victim advocate from Chicago. This is the first time she has ever shared on a public platform about the abuse she fa…

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Episode 229 : The Life and Times of Glenn W. Turner 1:31:10

3M ago1:31:10

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Sean Munger is back to share the story of Glenn W. Turner! Arguably one of the earliest HunBros of all time, with such hits as "Fake it til you Make it!", Koscot Interplanetary and the Dare to Be Great! course scam. In our chat, Sean recounts the life, times and legal troubles of the early MLM Kingpin Glenn W. Turner, a man so obsessed with fame, s…

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62: [Danielle Leukam] Four Pounds of Pressure // Part 2 40:51

3M ago40:51

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Content Warning: stalking, assault, sexual assault, serial sexual assault, rape, serial rape, abduction, kidnapping, home invasion, armed assault, gun violence, and criminal threats. As shared in Part 1 of her story, Danielle Leukam is a mother, nurse, author, survivor, speaker, and victim advocate from Minnesota. In November of 2018 her entire lif…

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Episode 228 : Lacey Gallear 1:54:42

4M ago1:54:42

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Lacey had been out of high demand control for years when she sat down to watch a TV show and was triggered by her past experiences. From her Gideon Roots, and Romanian Orphan Trips to her life as a DINK in Quixtar, Lacey definitely had a pattern of cults and high demand control she couldn't see until it was long in her rearview mirror. In our chat …

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61: [Danielle Leukam] The Last Straw // Part 1 37:23

4M ago37:23

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Content Warning: stalking, assault, sexual assault, serial sexual assault, serial rape, abduction, kidnapping, home invasion, armed assault, gun violence, and criminal threats. Danielle Leukam is a mother, nurse, author, survivor, speaker, and victim advocate from Minnesota. In November of 2018 her entire life changed forever after becoming a victi…

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Episode 227 : Kurtis Waldron 1:09:22

4M ago1:09:22

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Kurtis just wanted to have a Scentsy party to help a friend, and ended up using his party points to join the team. When the annual convention went digital during the pandemic, Kurtis's megahun upline refused to let it get her down, renting a massive house in Gatlinburg, Tennessee and hosting her own event. We also chat about Disney World's upcoming…

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60: [Donna Hayes] Never Wear The Cloak of Shame // Part 2 39:43

4M ago39:43

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*Content warning: suicidal ideation, love fraud, financial fraud, domestic violence, physical abuse, and stalking. As shared in Part One of Donna Hayes story, Donna is a mother, actress, singer, businesswoman, & author. Donna shares her experiences of domestic violence, divorce, and the various events that she believes led her to be a victim of lov…

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Episode 226 : Claire and Marc Headley Part 2 1:19:39

4M ago1:19:39

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Nineteen years ago Marc and Claire Headley escaped Scientology, the cult they had grown up in, and started their journey to real freedom. In Part 2 of our conversation, we go deeper down the rabbit hole into OSA, Fair Gaming and how Anonymous joined the good fight. Plus how the rage baiting and hate sport of social media advocacy fuels the algorith…

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Episode 225 : Claire and Marc Headley Part 1 1:24:41

4M ago1:24:41

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Nineteen years ago Marc and Claire Headley escaped Scientology, the cult they had grown up in, and started their journey to real freedom. In Part 1 of our conversation with special guest host Michelle Carpenter, Marc and Claire share about their lives climbing the bridge, their early advocacy, South Park, how Xenu gets a bad rap and a possible answ…

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59: [Donna Hayes] Walking Through Quicksand // Part 1 36:55

4M ago36:55

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*Content warning: body shaming, domestic violence, physical abuse, verbal abuse, stalking, love fraud, and financial fraud. Donna Hayes is a mother, actress, singer, author & businesswoman from Jamaica. In the following two episodes, she shares her experiences of domestic violence, divorce, and the various events that she believes led her to be a v…

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Episode 224 : Gina Pezzullo 1:17:56

4M ago1:17:56

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Gina Pezzullo has a unique perspective when it comes to MLMs and utilizing social media. Back when she first joined in 2001, smart phones, apps and social media didn't exist. In fact, parties were local, in home and came with forms to fill out while you shopped. One single bounced check or declined credit card could wreak havoc on the hostess's ent…

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58: [WCN Presents] SWW S15 E5 Updates // Part 2 30:09

4M ago30:09

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Content warning: sexual, physical and emotional violence involving children, childhood abuse, sexual abuse of a child, rape, statutory rape, child sex abuse materials, pedophilia, human trafficking, suicidal ideation, and suicide. As shared in Part 1 of the Something Was Wrong Season 15 Episode 5 Updates, Diana's episode,The Devil in Disguise, was …

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Episode 223 : Rachel Weatherly 52:07

5M ago52:07

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While browsing the posts on Bluesky, Michelle stumbled across a post for a short film using #antimlm called The Downline. We decided to watch it on Patreon and after I decided to reach out to the filmmaker, Rachel Weatherly and ask her to come chat about her films The Downline and The Hun, her inspirations for the films, her own MLM experiences and…

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57: [WCN Presents] SWW S15 E5 Updates // Part 1 33:12

5M ago33:12

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*Content warning: sexual, physical and emotional violence involving children, childhood abuse, sexual abuse of a child, rape, statutory rape, child sex abuse materials, pedophilia, human trafficking, suicidal ideation, and suicide. Season 15, Episode 5 of Something Was Wrong, [Diana] The Devil in Disguise was released on March 2nd, 2023. In the epi…

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Episode 222 : Romance Scams 54:41

5M ago54:41

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It's Valentine's Day AND Life After MLM's 3rd birthday! So to celebrate, we've got a bonus episode loaded with Romance Scam Horror Stories and Red Flag Education. Today's stories were compiled from Reddit's Scam Subthread, articles on Romance Scams, the FTC and LAMLM listener, Jolie! Have a safe Valentine's Day and don't fall for a romance scammer!…

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Episode 221 : Nick Thompson 1:35:41

5M ago1:35:41

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Back during the pandemic, I got hooked on a reality show called Love is Blind, I couldn't get enough. But as the seasons progressed, there was a level of concern that turned my watching into more of a fascination than fandom. So when Nick Thompson, star of Season 2, started comparing the show to a cult in the media and describing a level of control…

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56: [Mindy Corporon] Healing A Shattered Soul 39:40

5M ago39:40

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*Content warning: hate crimes, bigotry, racism, gun violence, child loss, parent loss, and mass murder. Mindy Corporon is a speaker, author, founder, and CEO from Oklahoma. She attributes her personal and professional success to her loving, tight-knit upbringing. However, everything she knew to be true would be deeply challenged on April 13th, 2014…

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Episode 220 : Hannah Alonzo 1:28:55

5M ago1:28:55

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One of the biggest content requests on my social media has been to collaborate with Hannah Alonzo. So I sent her a message and she was happy to oblige! If you aren't familiar with Hannah (or her cat Zeke!) get ready to fall in love with one of the most compassionate AntiMLM content creators on YouTube. In our conversation we talk about how far Anti…

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55: [What Came Next] Q & A 30:57

5M ago30:57

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*Content warning: sexual assault, childhood abuse, trauma, true crime, and murder. This week we're taking a break from our regularly-scheduled survivor interviews to answer listeners' questions. Thank you so much for the continuous support of What Came Next, the survivors we interview, and the brands that sponsor us. Please also consider re-listeni…

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Episode 219 : Darren Mudd 1:33:22

5M ago1:33:22

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Everyone loves an Amway episode, and this chat with Darren Mudd is no exception. As our deep dive into Amway in Season 4 is just getting started, we meet Darren who tells us about being an Ambot in the UK, recruiting at University, and the DTI investigation against Amway. Plus we dip our toes into the conversation about cyrpto and around scamming a…

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