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Fertility psychotherapist, Jana Rupnow, interviews parents, donor conceived individuals and professionals about the challenges and dilemmas of assisted reproductive technology baby-making and the expect-able tensions between positive and negative feelings that come along the way when, instead of baby makes three; three makes baby.
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Seeking Different

Hera and Estela McLeod

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Single Mother by Choice (former co-host of The Mocha SMC Podcast) Hera McLeod teams up with her precocious nine year old daughter Estela for the podcast "Seeking Different". The Mom and Kid duo explore what it looks like to navigate the world as a non-traditional family. They discuss hot topics such as donor sibling relationships, family travel, school choice, race relations, and navigating the playground.
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Follow comedian and sperm donor baby Laura High as she dives into to the terrifying world of donor conception and the infertility industry. This unregulated unethical multi-billion industry has created an InsemiNATION. And we are going to fix it together.
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As a daughter of two mothers, I always knew that I was conceived with the help from donorsperm. When I was young I always questioned my parents about my donor father but they couldn't give me a answer, I am a child of man who was a ID release donor in the 90's. In the Netherlands, the country I was born and conceived in has rules about donorchildren meeting there ID release donor. I am from the first generation of donorchildren in the Netherlands that was conceived with a ID release donor. I ...
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Give It To Me Straight

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Follow along as this husband and wife duo give you unfiltered advice from two different perspectives. No topic goes unspoken, from sex, money, relationships, the good the bad, and the ugly. Alex and Jon will give it to you straight.
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The fertility world a multi-billion dollar industry, run by so-called professionals we put our trust in? But should we? there is a lot about the IVF world that they don't want us to know about while controlling us with fear. We explore alternative avenues and speak to various guests and listen to their stories. For more information http://www.spermdonationworld.com
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Lindsay, a donor-conceived individual. continues to share her perspective on International Donor Conception Awareness Day, 2024. Learn one person's perspective on controversial issues like donor anonymity, DNA testing, health information, and emotional ramifications. She shares how genetics significantly influence our sense of self and how comprehe…
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FULL DISCLOSURE I filmed the intro a few weeks ago, I'm not about to go perform in Cleveland. I already did, it was wonderful. I apologize for the blooper, it's been a wild few weeks and I'm catching up. This episode is with a good friend and another DCP advocate Eric. Eric is a late discovery DCP who has been diving into the foundation of donor co…
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In the case of Baby Bouffard...Jon, you ARE the father! In this week’s episode, Alex and Jon discuss paternity tests for unborn children, fathers being petty, and security cameras in the house. Do you trust your spouse or do you need security cameras inside your house? Alex may not be doing anything bad...but Jon? We might need to investigate furth…
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It's the 4th annual International Donor Conception Awareness Day and in line with the theme, "Valuing the Voices of Donor Conceived People" I welcome Lindsay again, a donor-conceived individual, to share her profound story of self-discovery and conception. Lindsay talks about her journey and the transformation in her perspective over time. Lindsay’…
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Kissing your friends is fine…until it turns into a make-out session. In this weeks episode, Alex and Jon discuss friendship kisses, cancelled weddings, and friendships that have gone south. You know, not all friendships have to last forever. Alex’s friendships usually last awhile, whereas Jon’s only last 2-3 business days…or a year if you play Call…
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Would you call the cops on your own sister? Alex would. In this week’s episode, Alex and Jon discuss driving while high, pole dancing, and stalking your ex. Jon hasn’t stalked his ex in years but Alex just stalked hers last week. Don’t lie, we all want to see if we’re doing better than our exes! Safe to say, Alex and Jon have nothing to worry about…
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It’s time we normalized kissing your siblings on the lips…(or not, geez). In this week’s episode, Jon and Alex discuss strange sibling relationships, babies at weddings, and rude celebrity encounters. Just remember, if you ever meet Alex and Jon in public, Alex will want to be your best friend and Jon will want to leave immediately. It’s nothing pe…
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In love with your best friend’s boyfriend? Stop. In this week’s episode, Alex and Jon help you fall out of love with your best friend’s boyfriend, find love on dating apps, and confront ex’s about having fake cancer. What’s the biggest lie Jon has ever told Alex? Probably that he’s one inch taller. Guys will take every inch, am I right? Submit your…
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Is Baby Bouffard finally on the way? In this week’s episode, Alex and Jon make a huge life announcement and discuss all things kids, pregnancy, and promiscuous pasts. Jon considers getting a vasectomy and Alex dives into what you need to think about before having kids. Is Jon about to become a Zaddy? Is Alex entering her MILF era? Hit play and find…
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People need to learn how to say no, especially to brides. In this week’s episode, Alex and Jon discuss bachelorette parties getting too extreme, bedtime stories at 27, and how to handle your first STD. Alex even recalls a cooking class that left her feeling bamboozled, while Jon warns listeners to watch out for scammers. If Jon cares about one thin…
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Mother-in-laws are like your husband’s ex-girlfriend who won’t leave him alone. This week, Alex and Jon discuss MIL relationships, workplace affairs, and husbands being TOO helpful? Is that possible? Jon even recounts a story from his music festivals days and crowd surfing. Let’s just say if Jon could go back and relive his glory days…he wouldn’t. …
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The future of donor conception is here! This episode features my special guest Danielle of The Seed Scout. She shares her and her wife's path to parenthood, including the challenges they faced with sperm banks. Danielle and her wife's path to parenthood took them through the maze of sperm banks, encountering impersonal processes that left them feel…
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Angela aka Sunny.in.season has gone viral for being a former egg donor and searching for the recipient parents who used her eggs to give them an updated medical history. Angela recently found out she has HHT which can be a very serious genetic illness, but the agency she initially went through has dissolved. Click here to sign up for DCP Data: http…
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Too afraid to poke your husband’s butthole? Let’s discuss. In this week’s episode, Alex and Jon give their take on work wives, being a confident tall girl with a short king, and sleeping with your fiance’s sister. Other topics include being “friends” with your attractive coworker but hey, if you’re spending more time discussing spreadsheets than be…
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Today we have Danielle who is the co-founder of Seed Scout. Seed Scout is a known donor matching agency. In this episode Danielle shares her own experiences about using a known donor, the issues she faces while advocating for her clients, and why she feels more recipient parents should embrace known donors. https://www.theseedscout.com…
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Victoria and her Merrily are bravely joining us today. You may have seen their story recently published by CNN. Victoria is the first donor conceived person to come forward as a victim of accidental incest, and both her and her mom are victims of fertility fraud. Please know we recorded this episode in October 2023, but needed to wait till publish …
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After taking some time off for several positive life transitions in 2023, Jana returns to her podcast with a bang! To kick off season 4, she's chatting with the multi-talented Erin Maya – actress, producer, composer, and the brains behind The Complete Picture Musical, a groundbreaking show about donor conception. Together, they unpack the birth of …
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Today we talk to Karlos Dillard aka Ward of the State. Karlos is a trans-racial adoptee and former foster care youth. Karlos is an advocate, educator, and author. We discuss adoption, foster care, and how the donor conceived community can be better allies to the adoptee and former foster care community. Pre-order Karlos’s next book here: https://ka…
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Remember the flutters of first crushes and the buzz of schoolyard whispers? Together with my daughter Estela, we take a heartfelt plunge into the world of tween crushes and the ensuing gossip that can feel like navigating a minefield. We swap stories, with Estela offering a peek into the pulse of today's tween experiences, rife with the excitement …
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The decision was made to board a plane and head out west to Perth to try for a baby, which resulted in a first-cycle success. With roughly 6 weeks to go before the due date Pia shares of her pregnancy journey that included brutal morning sickness not to mention a gender reveal that went horribly wrong and left her in the hospital for a couple of da…
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Hera and Estela bring you a new episode - that explains why they've taken a bit of a hiatus. They've both been writing books! And Hera has just released her memoir, ten years in the making, that's both deeply personal and universally touching. "Defying Silence," her memoir, unveils the heart-wrenching journey of losing her son and the struggle agai…
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We welcome on Kenzi a family building coach a licensed clinical social worker. Kenzi talks about her work by helping intended recipient parents get to a more child centered place when deciding how to build their family. Kenzi talks about dealing with the fertility industry, fertility trauma, and asking yourself tough questions. Please know that at …
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We welcome on McKenzie Caldwell, registered dietitian who specializes in fertility and pregnancy. McKenzie shares a different perspective on the fertility industry and ways in which she would like to see them improve. In this episode, she talks about the rampant fat phobia that exists within the medical community, and specifically the fertility ind…
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If you’ve ever been in a relationship, you know how outside influences can do more harm than good at any given time. Even when your gut is telling you the answer, those outside factors can get you to second guess yourself. The truth is, you just have to trust yourself sometimes and go with your intuition. In this episode, Jon and Alex answer listen…
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Turning points in relationships are often a result of the impact your choices have on you and your partner. Oftentimes we focus too much on who’s right and who’s wrong instead of looking at what’s in the best interest of the relationship itself. In this episode, Alex and Jon take on listener questions about a marriage of conflicting personalities, …
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I'm so excited for you all to meet @OutspokenAdoptee. Outspoken and I started communicating over a year ago about donor conception and adoption. We quickly found that there are so many similarities on how the Fertility Industry and Adoption Industry is run. Since than we believe that in order to make the changes that adoptees and donor conceived pe…
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Everyone has a past and your willingness to understand your partner’s will help you strengthen your relationship and not tear it down. So why do so many people focus on what happened before instead of looking towards the future? In this episode, Jon and Alex discuss the art of talking dirty to your partner, how to handle finding your boyfriend’s sp…
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Erin Maya is not just a Donor Conceived person, but also very musically accomplished. She has written the very first musical about donor conception. In this episode she talks about her donor conception story, struggling with how she should identify, and how she created this amazing new up-and-coming musical. The first concert preview of this musica…
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Communication within relationships can be challenging, and it requires constant effort to make it work. At times, expressing your thoughts can be particularly tough, especially when you and your partner aren’t on the same page. In this episode, Alex and Jon discuss listener questions about an open marriage with unexpected consequences, dealing with…
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Relationships come down to balancing your own wants and needs with what’s in the best interest of you and your partner. Things begin to get tricky when the differences between those two are paper thin. So, how do you make the right choice when the differences aren’t always apparent? In this episode, Jon and Alex answer listener questions about beco…
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This is Part II of Donor Dylan's story. Picture this – you just found out you have 97 biological children. Baffled? So was our guest, Donor Dylan, when he discovered this shocking revelation due to sperm donation. In a heart-to-heart conversation, Dylan unravels his rollercoaster journey of having so many biological children. We dig into his initia…
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From the outside looking in, what’s normal for your partner and their family may seem strange to others. So what happens when you make an unsettling discovery about your partner’s family and past? In this episode, Alex and Jon dig into listener questions about sleeping with your friend’s crush, a debate on when kids should stop sleeping with their …
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Ever wonder what it's like to walk into a sperm bank, answer some peculiar questions, donate, and then years later discover you have 97 biological children? That's exactly what happened to Donor Dylan, our guest in this riveting discussion. Dylan lets us into his journey of discovery, the shock of learning that he has a multitude of biological chil…
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They say history is bound to repeat itself and the same can be said for relationships. If you don’t acknowledge what has happened in the past, can you truly look forward to a better future for your relationship? In this episode, Jon and Alex offer their mediocre advice to listener questions about the denial of being ghosted, when being a healthcare…
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Intrusive thoughts are an unwanted part of every relationship but they do need to be addressed when they come up. Avoiding them will only allow them to linger and get worse, possibly to the point of acting on them. In this episode, Alex and Jon answer listener questions about the need for prenups, dealing with insecurities about your partners past,…
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Today we are interviewing Rachel (they/them) who was conceived using both donor sperm and a donor egg. Their perspective, and lived experience is incredibly unique, even in the Donor Conceived community. Rachel and I both discovered our coping mechanism is humor, so please join us as we laugh our way through this episode.…
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Relationships are a lot of work even when both partners are giving their all. So what happens to a relationship when one partner starts to give more than the other? In this episode, Jon and Alex give their mediocre advice about a boyfriend needing to choose between his parents and his girlfriend, what opinion you can have on your partner’s desire t…
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We are back with Dena Dna! And we are going to start the process of getting genetic testing done to myself. In this episode, you were going to listen to how a genetic counselor interprets your family, medical history, what they need and what questions you need to be prepared for. In this episode, you’ll hear Dena referring to different videos that …
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Transparency, communication, and expectation setting are foundational to any successful relationship. So why do some many relationships fall apart as a result of ignoring their necessity? In this episode, Alex and Jon discuss navigating opposing religious views, choosing between your career and your partner, where do you draw the line when defendin…
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What happens when the feeling of belonging is put to the test? You're about to hear the tale of a Beyonce concert, a couple of extra guests, and an unexpected lesson in friendship and values. We laugh, we cringe, and we learn as we recount that night when we had to sit on the floor, shunned by a friend. Through this personal story, we want to make …
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We welcome genetic counselor Dena Dna. This three part series will show all of us how genetic testing works. In this part we are going to learn about what genetic testing is, what we can test for, and terminology. This is a incredibly important episode to listen to, since there is so much miss information flying around about genetic testing.…
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Establishing a relationship means changing your priorities from what’s best for you, to what’s best for us. The key to making these priorities work is knowing when to change them to meet the demands of your relationship. In this episode, Jon and Alex answer some juicy listener questions about a boyfriends secret gambling debt, getting over past tra…
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This week we recap on the first week of school and discuss how kid social interactions have changed post pandemic (particularly for kids who were school aged during the height of it). Have you ever considered how remote learning impacted children's social skills? Picture this, a young student, fresh from a year of remote learning, navigating the tr…
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