A Podcast where landscaper Joel Barnett of InStyle Gardens, chats with other people within the landscaping/green industry. We chat with Landscape designers, landscape builders, garden maintenance folks, nursery folks, and anyone else within this awesome industry!
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Come along with horticulturist Daniel Fuller as we enter a hidden world of horticultural, ecological and landscape gardening knowledge with featured experts, industry professionals and enthusiasts. We inform and inspire you with weekly episodes to help you become an unstoppable plant whisperer.
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Join Joel and Matt biweekly on their convivial deep-dive to the core of the human condition.
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Almost every revival has been sparked by hungry, humble young leaders who knew something needed to change. In Season 2 of NextUp, co-hosts Grant Skeldon and Will Chung are helping young leaders narrow their calling and accelerate their mission. Because the stakes are too high. The world needs young leaders to be at their best. NextUp will help you or the young leaders you know get equipped with the helpful frameworks necessary to better form ow you see God, How you view the world, and how yo ...
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Episode 207 - Hayden Schueler - Vereya Gardening
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In this episode I speak with Hayden from Vereya Gardening, a garden maintenance business mased in the Dandenong Ranges in Melbourne. Hayden has a great story about one of his first projects, working for someone who decided to post an ad for a gardener at the music college Hayden was studying at. He recently went to various gardens overseas for 7 we…
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Episode 206 - Mia Bueskens - Terravita Horticulture
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In this episode I speak with Mia Bueskens from Terravita Horticulture, a garden maintenance and installation company based in Melbourne and around Daylesford, where Mia grew up. She had a great start to the industry with multiple family members part of the industry, and she talks about how influential some workmates and employers were during her de…
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Ep.208 Right plant, right place: Site parameters x plant functions - Daniel Fuller
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Yeah, yeah yeah - right plant, right place. But what does this old cliche mean in the real world? In this episode, I break down the old concept into site parameters (restrictions) and plant functions (desirable traits). Site Parameter Examples Available space Temperature Frost Wind Altitude Humidity Topography Substrate Mulch Average rainfall Droug…
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In this episode I speak with Gareth Wilson from GK Wilson. Gareth is a highly decorated and respected landscaper in the UK and has built at least 30 show gardens, including multiple ones at Chelsea, and has won 11 gold medals as well as best in shows, best in category and best construction. Gareth is also an author, consultant, lecturer and awards …
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Episode 204 - Ashley O'Sullivan - InDepth Landscape Construction
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In this episode I speak with Ashley O'Sullivan from InDepth Landscape Construction, a company based in Canberra. Ash is the operations manager there and has been for 3 months. Prior to moving to InDepth, Ashley originally worked for his father's business for 10 years and then worked in commercial landscaping for 8-9 years, so we talk about the pros…
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Episode 203 - Suzannah Kennett Lister - SKL Gardens
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In this episode I speak with Suzannah Kennett Lister from SKL Gardens, a landscape design business based in Melbourne. Suzannah originally started her working life in the Theatre space before studying landscape design when COVID closed down the arts world. Her mother is a successful landscape designer in South Australia, so Suzannah grew up around …
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Episode 202 - Sean Dowling - Bayon Gardens
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In this episode I speak with Sean Dowling from Bayon Gardens, a design and construction company based on the Mornington Peninsula in Melbourne. Sean has not only a unique story about the path he took to start in the industry at 27, but also about how he came up with the name Bayon Gardens. He also shares the different way he started the business, w…
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Ep.207 Horticulture trial pt.3: Analysing your data - Dr Ian Smith
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Welcome to part 3 of our horticulture trial series. In the last two episodes, Dr Ian Smith helped us understand how to plan a scientific horticulture trial, and how to collect our data. In this episode, we're going to learn how to make sense of that data and put it to use. If you haven't listened to the previous two episodes yet, perhaps go and sta…
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Episode 201 - Chloe Foster - Foster Your Garden
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In this episode I speak with Chloe Foster from Foster Your Garden. Chloe is a horticulturist, writer, educator, designer and host of the 3CR Garden Show. She started in the industry straight out of school, working at PGA nurseries while studying, and talks about the benefits she's experienced from being involved with volunteer work within the indus…
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Ep.206 Horticulture trial pt.2: Conducting a trial and collecting data - Dr Ian Smith
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In last week's episode, friend of the show Dr Ian Smith taught us how to set up a horticulture trial. In this episode, he's going to teach us how to run a trial as well as how to collect and record data. The scientific approach is a disciplined way of finding the truth of the matter. Instead of going by our beliefs, we strip ourselves of preconcept…
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Episode 200 - Grahame Rowe - Better Homes and Gardens
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In this episode, the 200th of The Landscaping Podcast, I speak with the first guest and inspiration behind starting the podcast 3+ years ago, Grahame Rowe from Better Homes and Gardens. Grahame talks about the amount of thought and work that goes into a segment on BHG Tv, which blows me away to think about, and he also talks about the 2 year break …
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Ep.205 Horticulture trial pt 1: Planning a trial - Dr Ian Smith
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How are you trialling new approaches in the landscape? If you're like me, you're writing notes in an app (at best), or you're just keeping all of your ideas in your head (at worst). Did you know there's a better way? It's called the scientific approach, and it'd been pretty beneficial for society as a whole. Instead of approaching horticulture in a…
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Episode 199 - Zac Connell - Evergreen Gardens and Landscape Solutions
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In this episode I speak with Zac Connell from Evergreen Gardens and Landscape Solutions, a landscape construction company based in Benalla in regional Victoria. Zac had a great start in the industry, starting at a nursery before starting his own business doing garden maintenance and then moving more towards construction and dabbling in design. We t…
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Episode 198 - Ash Walker - Ash Walker Gardening
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In this episode I speak with Ash Walker from Ash Walker Gardening. Ash is a horticulturist, plantsman, designer, writer and traveller and we talk plenty about his amazing travels in this episode. Ash was a recipient of the Global Footprints Garden Scholarship which allowed him to travel to England and France in 2022 working at the Chelsea Flower Sh…
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Episode 197 - Cass Hooke - Outback Gardens
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In this episode I speak with Cass Hooke from Outback Gardens. Cass is a garden consultant and writer, writing for Graziher magazine. Cass started out in the industry while she was at school working for Robert Boyle before studying in Botany, working in veggie production nurseries and working in conservation for threatened species. Cass is holding a…
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Ep.204 Protecting trees during development - Gary Moran (Treeside Arboricultural Consultancy)
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How can we protect trees during development? In this episode, consulting arborist Gary Moran and I explore his usual recommendations for clients wishing to protect their trees during development, whether that's for a private, commercial, or public project. Trees might take a long time to show stress, so just because it looks great when construction…
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Episode 196 - Luke Smith - Australian Lawn and Garden Podcast
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In this episode I speak with Luke Smith from The Australian Lawn and Garden Podcast about an exciting trip he's about to take where he's travelling around parts of Australia hosting events and live podcasts in various cities. Luke was a guest on episode 144 talking about how he started in the industry, but this episode is more focused on his trip, …
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Episode 195 - Patrick Handley - Waterscapes Australia
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In this episode I speak with Patrick Handley from Waterscapes Australia. Patrick also started Aquascapes Australia, where he began importing the Aquascape Inc products from the US to use on his projects and sell to others, after he first used them while working in Canada. Patrick is the first person to win the Aquascape Artist of the Year outside o…
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Ep.203 Common hardscape mistakes: Outdoor construction basics - Joel Barnett (In Style Gardens, The Landscaping Podcast)
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A sound understanding of hardscape elements is a good feather in the cap for any horticulturist, maintenance operator, or garden enthusiast. Sadly, most of us never get a chance to learn about this part of the garden because we only get to play in the dirt. In this episode, Joel Barnett (In Style Gardens, The Landscaping Podcast) guides us through …
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Episode 194 - Ross Uebergang - Ross Uebergang Landscape
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In this episode I speak with Ross Uebergang from Ross Uebergang Landscape. Ross is a designer and educator and is a joy to chat to! His episode is the perfect blend of education and entertainment I'm always looking for, and there are a couple of moments where he clicks into teacher mode, in between telling some amazing stories of his time travellin…
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Episode 193 - Ben French - Yards Landscapes
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In this episode I speak with Ben French from Yards Landscapes, a landscape design, construction and maintenance business based in Brisbane. Ben started early in the industry, working at a landscape supply yard while still at school, and then trialled different roles within landscaping to work out which ones he liked best. Yards was originally solel…
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Swapcast: The Landscaping Podcast Ep.191 - Joel Barnett (In Style Gardens)
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I don't talk about myself much on this podcast - we tend to stick to the art and science of horticulture and interrelated disciplines. But I was recently interviewed by Joel Barnett about my recent move from Melbourne to Brisbane and the reasons behind it, my career journey, and the fact that my wife Kirstie and I are expecting a baby later this ye…
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Episode 192 - Garry Ashton - Aussie Lawnstars
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In this episode I speak with fellow podcast Garry Ashton from Aussie Lawnstars. Aside from his podcast which has been running for about 2.5 years, Garry also has a lawn and maintenance business based in Newcastle. In the episode we discuss both business advice as well as some life advice along the way, talking about how Garry learnt the hard way as…
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Episode 191 - Daniel Fuller - Plants Grow Here Podcast
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In this episode I speak with Daniel Fuller from the Plants Grow Here Podcast. Daniel is more than 200 episodes into his podcast and it is a wealth of knowledge for the horticulture world. He has some extremely interesting and knowledgeable guests on, and is also very knowledgeable himself, so it makes for some fascinating conversations, from which …
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Ep.202 Integrated Pest Management: 6 methods - Daniel Fuller
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Everybody wants a silver bullet for plant pests and diseases, but they usually end up causing more issues than they solve in the long run. Integrated Pest Management, or IPM, is an approach to managing pests in accordance with nature's rhythms. Instead of reaching straight for a chemical control, we can influence a number of factors that put pests …
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Episode 190 - Dougie Elliot - Rock Solid Health / Stone and Landscaping
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In this episode I speak with Dougie Elliot from Rock Solid Stone and Landscaping and also Rock Solid Health. Rock Solid Stone and Landscaping is his stonemasonry and landscaping business, while Rock Solid Health is where he's a holistic health coach. Dougie started out in Castlemaine working for the local council in the botanic gardens, among other…
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Episode 189 - Do you have a specific rock/excavation clause in your quotes?
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In this episode I've done another Q and A episode via questions asked on Instagram, purely because I wasn't organised to have a guest for this week! I answer questions such as: When is The Landscaping Course going to be released? Do you have a clause in your quotes for under ground rock, extra fill etc. Would you buy a mini excavator or mini loader…
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Ep.201 Ornamental permaculture: Revisiting the 12 principles - Daniel Fuller
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Most people wouldn't consider a permaculture mindset for a public park or an ornamental garden. But that's a missed opportunity, because it could help individuals, organisations and councils reduce their maintenance budgets while increasing plant health and positive biodiversity outcomes. The 12 principles of permaculture can be applied whether or …
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Episode 188 - Tammy Huynh - Leaf An Impression
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In this episode I speak with Tammy Huynh from Leaf An Impression. Tammy is a Horticulturist, Writer and also a presenter on Gardening Australia. She started studying Horticultural Science at Sydney Uni before getting a role working on the Better Homes and Gardens Magazine team. She was awarded Horticulturist of the year in 2021 by the Australian In…
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Ep.200 Podcasters pick: 10 "best" episodes - Daniel Fuller (Plants Grow Here)
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This week, we're celebrating 200 episodes! My mentor, Karen Smith, editor of Hort Journal Australia, interviews me about my picks for the "best" 10 episodes. To pick only 10 episodes was an impossible task, but I've narrowed it down to a few essential chats that I believe all my listeners should listen to at least once. From Integrated Weed Managem…
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Episode 187 - Rob Waddell - Waddell Design
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In this episode I speak with Rob Waddell from Waddell Design, a landscape design and construction company based in Melbourne, Geelong and Byron Bay. This episode also sees the reintroduction of the old intro music for one episode only, as specially requested by Rob! Rob speaks about the reasons and challenges behind opening up separate arms of this…
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Ep.199 MIFGS 2024 Pt.3: A Moment In Time - Peter Donegan (Irish landscape architect)
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Did you get a chance to see Peter Donegan's phenomenal garden design A Moment In Time at the Melbourne International Flower and Garden Show (MIFGS) this year? We spoke about it in Ep.181 A Daydream Supported By A Series of Equations, but I wanted to touch in after the event finished to get his perspective on how everything went, and if he actually …
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Michael Wear | Politically Homeless | S2 E9
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Do you find yourself overwhelmed by the upcoming election? With all the tension surrounding this year’s presidential candidates, some of you may feel politically homeless.In this episode, Grant Skeldon and Will Chung talk with Michael Wear, author and CEO of Center for Christianity and Public Life. They discuss dealing with this feeling by gaining …
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Episode 186 - Brent Phipps - Byron Bay Ranga
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In this episode I speak with Brent Phipps from Byron Bay Ranga, a landscape design, construction and maintenance business located in Byron Bay. It's an extremely enjoyable chat with Brent, with a great combination of education (Brent has been in business 11 years) and entertainment. Brent had a great starting point in the industry, work for Mike Ca…
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Ep.198 MIFGS 2024 pt.2: Mother Ocean, Through The Looking Glass, & New Nordic Notes
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The Melbourne International Flower & Garden Show has wrapped for another year! In this episode, I interview the designers behind three show garden highlights from this year's Show. We'll get to hear the inspiration behind the story and message behind each of their gardens, and we'll chat about their creative choices with materials and plant palette…
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Joel Muddamalle and Jonathan Pokluda | Common and Controversial Questions Young People Are Asking | S2 E8
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Do you feel like you're overflowing with questions? Are you longing to be more spiritually connected? If so, this podcast is for you. In this episode, Grant Skeldon and Will Chung discuss everything from controversial parts of scripture to practical ways of living out your faith with Dr. Joel Muddamalle and Pastor Jonathan Pokluda. They offer guida…
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Ep.197 MIFGS 2024 pt.1: Boutique, achievable, and more gardens - Dr Ian Smith
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The Melbourne International Flower & Garden Show has wrapped for another year! Each year, we like to interview some of the garden designers to get an insight into what ideas, philosophies, trends, and plants are floating in the cultural zeitgeist. Friend of the show, Dr Ian Smith interviews some of the Boutique, Achievable and Border garden designe…
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Episode 185 - Andrew Fisher Tomlin - London College Of Garden Design
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In this episode I speak with Andrew Fisher Tomlin from The London College Of Garden Design. Andrew was a co-founder of the College and is an extremely enjoyable person to talk to! He wasn't sure what he wanted to do when he started in the industry, so tried everything, from horticulture, to design, to construction. Andrew was the chair for selectio…
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In this special edition episode, I speak with 26 different people involved in the 2024 Melbourne International Flower and Garden Show. There's designers, builders, students and an organiser. The chats were held on the Saturday during construction before the show opens on Wednesday the 20th of March 0:00 Intro 0:52 Grahame Rowe - Challenger Garden w…
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Ep.196 Permaculture syntropics - Erik van Zuilekom (United Natures)
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A garden is never finished. It's going to change throughout the year, and the seasons. It should be getting better over time instead of worse. And it should also provide you with multiple yields, whether that's a food crop, supporting biodiversity, reducing soil salinity, providing shade, making the space appear larger, or simply bringing you joy. …
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Addison Bevere & Alec Bevere | How to Reclaim Your Prayer Life | S2 E7
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Do you ever feel guilty that you don’t pray enough? Or that when you do pray, your prayers are bad, boring or empty? In this episode of NextUp, Grant Skeldon and Will Chung talk all things prayer with brothers Addison and Alec Bevere from Messenger International. They uncover the disconnect many of us have about prayer, helping us understand it’s n…
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Episode 183 - Peter Donegan - MIFGS 2024 Garden Preview
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In this episode I speak with Peter Donegan about the story behind his upcoming Melbourne International Flower and Garden Show design. It's supported by the Defence Force Welfare Association and I loved the story behind it so wanted as many people to hear it as possible. Doing this episode made me realise it'd be great to hear from as many people as…
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Episode 182 - Chris England - Merrywood Plants
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In this episode I speak with Chris England from Merrywood Plants. Merrywood plants is a nursery specialising in espaliered plants and after espaliering was a hobby for Chris for 5-10 years, he then started Merrywood 25 years ago. Chris mentions how, at two of his early nursery employers, he was taught the importance of knowing how to speak to peopl…
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Ep.195 Insect taxonomy: Classifying good, bad & neutral insects into groups - Dr Ian Smith (Bug Bites)
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Sydney. Or, click the AIH events link below. Diptera (flys) The Good Hoverfly Robber flies The bad Leaf miners Fruit flies (not vinegar flies) The inbetween Blowflies, bottle flies and house flies Fungus gnats Coleoptera (Beetles) Beneficials Ladybird (Coccinellidae) Ground beetles (Carabidae) Rove beetle (Staphylinidae) The neutrals Plague Soldier…
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Episode 181 - Keith Edwards - Keith Edwards Landscape Consultant
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In this episode I speak with Keith Edwards of Keith Edwards Landscape Consultant. Keith has been in the industry more than 40 years so is a wealth of knowledge, and has a passion for the industry to match. He has a great path to begin in the industry, where he learnt design, but then wanted to understand how a design would all fit together, so work…
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Ep194 Plant communication according to science - Katia Hougaard (Katia Plant Scientist)
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Have you ever wondered whether plants can communicate? And if they can, how do they do so? Katia Hougaard is back, and this time we explore the science behind plant communication. We discuss VOCs, plant blood tests, visual signs, sounds, Venus fly traps, predators, pests, and much more. We even ponder what science has yet to prove or disprove regar…
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Jenessa Wait, Mariela Rosario | Building Your Relationship with the Holy Spirit | S2 E6
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Does your faith rest in the wisdom of men or the power of God? In this episode of NextUp, podcast hosts Grant Skeldon and Will Chung wrestle with questions like this, prompted by 1 Corinthians 2:5, alongside special guests Jenessa Wait of Bethel Church and Mariela Rosario of She Speaks Fire. Don’t miss this lively deep-dive on the topic of the Holy…
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Episode 180 - Simon Rosa - Simon Rosa Landscaping
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In this episode I speak with Simon Rosa from Simon Rosa Landscaping, a landscape design, construction and maintenance business based in Bendigo. Simon has been running the business for around 20 years so has plenty of experience, starting out as a two man show to now having around 15 employees and working on the best gardens in Bendigo. In this cha…
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Ep.193 Hort Journal highlights: Editor's pick 2023 - Karen Smith (sponsored by Hort Journal Australia)
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In this episode, we go over more than a dozen topics quickly, based around the Hort Journal's editor's best article picks for 2023. Karen Smith is my mentor and also the editor for our Australian horticulture industry's best magazine, and she has her finger on the pulse when it comes to amenity hort in this country. You'll hear about emerging pest …
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Jenn Jett Barrett, Cheyanne Skeldon | Enneagram is a Tool, Not an Excuse | S2 E5
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Depending on who you talk to, the Enneagram can be a dicey topic–especially if it’s used as an excuse, not a tool. In this episode, Jenn Jett Barrett, Founder of the Well Summit, discusses the Enneagram with Will, Grant and Cheyanne and outlines how to use this system of personality typing to bring clarity about how we, as individuals and as leader…
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