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ABM Done Right - A Personal ABM Podcast

Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber

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As ITSMA and TechTarget report that 66% of ABM programs underperform, Kristina Jaramillo (President of Personal ABM) and Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) talk to sales and marketing leaders about what's working, what's not working, and how ABM needs to evolve. Along with account-based sales and marketing insights from Kristina and Eric, you will learn from leadership at Challenger, Demandbase, Okta, Uniphore, Alyce, Highspot, Gong, Critical Start, Longbow Advantage, Proof Analytics, Narrati ...
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As most ABM programs deliver minimal improvement to revenue KPIs, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) and his guest Alex Pappas (Senior ABM Manager for Venafi) discuss how teams need to stop retrofitting ABM on top of current processes. During this podcast episode, you will hear: 1. The ABM challenges Alex faced at both Riskalyze and Venafi and how h…
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In this ABM Done Right Podcast, Chris Rack (CEO of MRP) mentioned that most intent is nothing more than intent to learn vs. intent to purchase. By listening to this episode, you will learn how to differentiate between the two different types of intent -- and what you need to do from an ABM standpoint based on where the buyer is in their journey.…
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Eric Dates (Head of Marketing for V Comply) recently joined Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber on the ABM Done Right Podcast. They discussed: 1. Why previous ABM programs failed for Eric Dates -- and what he did differently with his most successful ABM programs. 2. The questions we should be asking internally before we even focus on building an dem…
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Within this podcast, Scott Gillum from Carbon Design joins Eric Gruber (Personal ABM CEO) to discuss: 1. Why Challenger sales and marketing and ABM goes hand-in-hand 2. How GTM teams can deliver messaging that resonates - This includes how we should create our POV so we can come to each interaction with a POV about the customer's business, how we s…
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In other ABM Done Right Podcasts, including the one with the CMO of Hushly, we talked about the state of ABM in cybersecurity and other industries that are in a crowded, undifferentiated space where transactional sales are prevalent. In this podcast with Michelle Radlowski (Senior Director, AMS & EMEA Regional Marketing and ABM at DigiCert), we exp…
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Most content does not support ABM nor sales and it's because most teams are skipping a very important step that must be done before you even assess your content to see what's missing. On this ABM Done Right Podcast, Tracy Wehringer (CEO and CMO at Moonshot Strategy) and Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) share the steps that teams should take when d…
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Matt Brown (CEO of CustomerOS) recently joined Eric Gruber (Personal ABM CEO) on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss how to grow your best customers and drive profitability with your next best customers to create a compounding customer growth engine. They discuss how customer success teams are still reactionary and playing defense and forgetting …
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Recent ABM Done Right Podcasts have focused on using ABM to protect and expand key accounts as sales teams are struggling to bring in new business. Companies like Commvault report 8-10% drops in enterprise deals as budgets are limited or frozen. To sustain growth, companies need to protect and expand the existing revenue they do have. But because c…
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Dana Alvarenga (a 2023 Top 25 Customer Success Strategist and VP of Customer Experience at SlapFive: Customer Marketing) joins Kristina Jaramillo (President of Personal ABM to discuss: 1. Why customer success teams struggle with the "why stay," "why evolve," and "why expand conversations." 2. How most customer success teams are taking a piecemeal a…
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At the center of each new, retention or expansion deals lies a series of struggling moments that need to be listened to, understood, catered to, reframed and solved. These are moments that most sales, marketing and customer success teams are ignoring as they focus on scaling vs. driving account-based revenue growth with the accounts that matter the…
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David Sakimoto (VP of Customer Success at Gitlab) joined the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss: 1. The state of customer success in most organizations -- what are they doing right, where are they getting it wrong, and where do challenges exist. 2. Why many customer success teams struggle to keep VP and C-suite engagement after the deal is closed an…
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As ABM has become synonymous with ABM tech, many GTM teams are not seeing maximum returns from their ABM tech investment as they continue to struggle to move high-value accounts to revenue. Many GTM teams are seeing accounts go dark and we've been seeing reports of 10%+ drops in enterprise deals (the ones that ABM should be focused on!) In this pod…
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Despite marketers saying that spray and pray is dead, it is alive and kicking -- just in a different form as it's more targeted. Teams are still spraying messages and content out to their ICP hoping that it sticks instead of aligning with future and existing customers. There is no differentiation between a targeted demand gen motion and an ABM moti…
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In this ABM Done Right Podcast, Mandy Cole (Partner at Stage 2 Capital) joins Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber to discuss: 1. How the economy is not the main reason for why companies are seeing 10%+ drops in enterprise deals -- but instead is that GTM teams are not limiting sales execution risk. The economy is only magnifying the issues that exis…
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Matt Dixon (Wall Street Journal bestselling co-author of The Challenger Sale, The Effortless Experience, The Challenger Customer and The JOLT Effect, a frequent contributor to Harvard Business Review and Founding Partner at DCM Insights) recently joined Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber on the ABM Done Right Podcast. During this podcast, you will …
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Gallup studies show that 82% of B2B customers are indifferent, disengaged or actively looking to replace a vendor. Yet, many companies still put a greater emphasis on building a pipeline vs. protecting and expanding key accounts. In this podcast, customer success expert, Kristi Faltorusso, joined Kristina Jaramillo to discuss the state of customer …
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As many teams struggle with driving stage progression (accounts going dark), increasing win rates and ACV (many companies are reporting 10% drops in enterprise deals), protecting and expanding key accounts (82% of b2b buyers are indifferent, disengaged or actively looking to replace a vendor), we asked Steve Richard (SVP of Revenue Enablement at Me…
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As GTM teams are building pipelines with ABM but are struggling with accounts going dark (especially after sales engagement), Spencer Wixom (former SVP of Sales and Marketing and Chief Customer Officer at Challenger and current CEO at The Brooks Group) joined us on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss: 1. The fundamentals that's needed for account…
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There is confusion in the market on what intent data is -- and it's purpose. In this podcast discussion with John Steiner (CMO at Tech Target) and Bill Henry (SVP of Field Sales at Tech Target), you will learn: 1, Where the confusion lies and why it's happening. 2. What teams need to think about before they invest in an intent data platform - failu…
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Most companies have dived into ABM tech and other platforms that promised a path to greater growth with more focus and partnership with sales leaders. However, ITSMA, Tech Target and others report that only 17% have a mature stage 4 program and 69% of ABM programs under-perform when it comes to revenue growth. Most GTM teams are still trying to bui…
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Most ABM teams and the marketing firms they are using are rushing into ABM and retrofitting ABM into existing processes vs. changing interactions and experiences across the buyer's journey and customer lifecycle. While marketing may be more targeted now than ever - and the focus is on high-intent ICP accounts that are more likely to buy, there is v…
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Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber - (the hosts of the ABM Done Right Podcast) have mentioned many times that ABM is not really about accounts. It's about the human buyers in the accounts you want to win, protect and expand. This is why we need to stop thinking about campaigns and think about the moments we're creating along the buyer's journey and…
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Account-based marketing and selling became a must for cybersecurity firms and others looking to drive higher-value deals in an undifferentiated, crowded market. In fact, 92% of B2B marketers have some kind of ABM strategy or program in place as companies dove into ABM tech and other platforms that promised a path to greater growth with more focus a…
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Long sales cycles, low win rates, low deal sizes, limited impact to ARR, GRR and NRR. What's causing this... Misalignment with accounts and buyers as there is a lack of customer research. There's a lack of data so there are misaligned messages, content, interactions and experiences. In this podcast, Vladimir Blagojević, cofounder of FullFunnel.io, …
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As Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber have mentioned many times on the ABM Done Right Podcast: ABM is about changing the interactions teams are having and the experiences they are delivering across all channels and across the buyer's journey and customer lifecycle. This includes each touchpoint and each interaction. In this ABM Done Right Podcast. …
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In this podcast, Julija Noskova (a GTM and Growth Marketing Consultant) shares the ABM lessons she learned from working as a VP of Marketing for Medallia, SoftChoice and other companies. These lessons include: 1. ABM requires change management across the organization, otherwise, you're just doing marketing as usual just more targeted. This includes…
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In Blue Ocean Strategy, INSEAD business professors W. Chan Kim and Renée Mauborgne argue that the solution to business growth and success is to operate in an uncontested market. They use the metaphor of a blue ocean to represent an uncontested market, and they contrast it with a red ocean, a marketplace where fierce competition has stained the wate…
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In this quick, 9-minute podcast, Kristina Jaramillo shares why a call center conversational AI firm was challenged with accounts going dark. As you will hear, the content, messaging and outreach did not align with where target accounts were in their AI and digital transformation journey. Our client wasn't aligning with the strategic priorities of t…
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ABM Needs to Be Personal to Drive Enterprise Account-Based Growth – Not Just Personalized, When you have complex solutions, lengthy sales cycles, accounts going dark after sales engagement, high annual contract value and “at risk” enterprise accounts, you need a more personal account-based approach that focuses on the individual social, digital, em…
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82% of B2B customers are indifferent, disengaged or are actively looking to replace a vendor. Yet companies are still focused on applying ABM to just source the funnel. For example, Kristina Jaramillo (Host of the ABM Done Right Podcast and President of Personal ABM) was having conversations with a SaaS firm that recently got growth funding. They p…
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During an ABM Done Right Podcast on Rebooting Content to Support ABM & Sales, Cassandra Jowett (PathFactory’s Senior Director of Marketing) mentioned that she likes to compare the buyer’s journey to the “floor is lava” game that kids play. This kids game also became a popular Netflix game show. Just like the game show you have all these jumping poi…
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Initially, Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber asked Christina Handy (VP of Account-Based Marketing) at FIS to be a guest on the podcast to talk about the enablement that’s needed to ensure stage progression and wins with target accounts as Christina was responsible for deal support in past roles. But then we found out in pre-podcast conversations t…
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Declan Mulkeen (CMO at strategicabm and host of the Let’s Talk ABM Podcast) recently posted on LinkedIn that his firm just won a new client - a billion dollar business. And, the source: his Let's talk ABM Podcast. At Personal ABM, we also recently won a new client, Uniphore, a conversational AI firm with a 2.5-billion-dollar valuation, and the sour…
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Davis Potter managed ABM programs for Google, Pegasystems and is now managing Scale.AI's ABM program. The program at Scale is very new (almost 4 months in from the start) and he's focusing first on the 1:1 with the company's most strategic accounts before going for scale. As many teams first focus on 1:few and 1: many BEFORE implementing 1:1, liste…
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Leslie Cocco Alore is the Global Vice President of Growth Marketing at Ivanti - an ITSM platform that helps teams find, heal and protect every device, everywhere – automatically. She spoke at ABM events like B2B SMX in Boston and now she joins Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber at Personal ABM for this podcast on the Do's and Don'ts of ABM. After y…
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Kristina Jaramillo recently asked on LinkedIn - what role aligns the closest to ABM: demand generation, field marketing or product marketing. She asked this question because Nick Bennett at Alyce mentioned that field marketing should be focused on the middle and bottom of the funnel. They capture the demand that the demand generation team created. …
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In this ABM Done Right Podcast, Kristina Jaramillo (President of Personal ABM) shares why you should not focus just on in-market accounts. This is something that the intent data platforms like 6sense, Bombora and others do not want me to talk about. In fact, in her book, “No Forms, No Spam, No Cold Calls – The Next Generation of Account-Based Sales…
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Studies from eMarketer show that only 17% of B2B marketers worldwide say their ABM program was mature and driving strategic growth. The other 83% mentioned that their biggest challenge is ensuring you have the right content for an ABM approach. In a recent article, Dan Rosenberg at Octane11 mentioned that he’s surprised that “ensuring you have the …
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When you hit the core the right way, that’s when win rates go up, stage progression accelerates, sales cycles go faster and deal sizes increase. When you build relationships and align with your core, you build retention, you drive customer lifetime value and expand with your core as you provide greater value to them. ABM is about building customer …
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Loyal listeners of the ABM Done Right Podcast know that Personal ABM believes that ABM and the Challenger Sale go hand-in-hand as ABM is not about sourcing the pipeline. It's about how are we going to win with those tier 1 accounts that do not respond to campaigns. It's about accelerating stuck accounts to revenue and how are we going to get a high…
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Many of the GTM teams we talk to are already using ABM platforms like Demandbase and Terminus, predictive analytics platforms like 6sense and intent data tech like Bombora. They are driving the top-of-the-funnel and increasing pipeline KPIs. But, the common thread we're seeing across the different companies in different industries is that they are …
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Declan Mulkeen mentioned on LinkedIn that ABM + demand gen = a winning team. He’s right, it is a winning team together as demand gen should have a role in an ABM program. The problem is that most ABM programs are nothing more than demand gen. Leadership, sales, and marketing teams do not understand the difference between the two motions – and they …
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Previously, Kristina Jaramillo (President of Personal ABM and host of the ABM Done Right Podcast) shared the intent data challenges that GTM teams face including the fact that most intent data is siloed making it meaningless, most of the intent that is shown is not from decision makers and influencers, intent data is not predictive, teams usually l…
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Around 70% of B2B technology vendors now use intent data for prospecting, and a bevy of companies now promise to harvest that information and transform it into viable insights for enterprise GTM teams. Intent data solutions from market leaders like Bombora, Intentsify, Leadsift and others have allowed marketing teams to rapidly evolve their ABM pro…
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Richa Pande (Global Head of ABM and Content Strategy for HP) says that ABM demands absolute customer obsession. To us at Personal ABM, this means that sales, marketing, leadership, and customer success teams need to be relevant at each touchpoint to the accounts they want to win, protect, and expand. This includes LinkedIn profiles as more than 65%…
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In a recent LinkedIn post, Cassidy Shield (Chief Growth Officer for Refine Labs) recently talked about how high-quality sales feedback to marketing is lacking in most organizations and how most marketers are happy to rush off and execute on sales requests. Only to have sales come back a week later with a new set of requests. Prioritization is eithe…
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In a previous ABM Done Right Podcast, Mark Stouse (CEO of Proof Analytics) mentioned that there is a near-total misunderstanding about the purpose and focus of a great ABM effort. Kristina and Mark discussed how ABM has wrongly become synonymous with ABM tech, how ABM using 3rd party data is only DM on steroids, how ABM measurement is off target, a…
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Recently, a President/CMO of a sales and marketing tech AI firm that focuses on market research, messaging, and positioning wanted to learn more about ABM but he said let's take sales out of the equation as they are already doing account-based emailing and let's not speak to social as they were already doing LinkedIn ads. What this President/CMO fa…
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