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We Get Real AF

Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson

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We Get Real AF (WeGRAF)​ is an upbeat lifestyle and emerging tech & science podcast packed with mentorship & practical tools that empower women to succeed professionally & personally. Not a coder or a rocket scientist? Neither are we! Our goal is to redefine feminism, bridge cultural gaps, and give practical advice for living your BEST life in a tech-enabled world. Join Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson for REAL conversations with female leaders exploring how cutting-edge science & technology int ...
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Moshe Ludlow, a Romanian-born theater owner, opens the small town’s first integrated dance hall. His wife Chona runs The Heaven and Earth Grocery store on Chicken Hill, which caters to Blacks and European immigrants, mostly Jewish. Chona is generous and warm-hearted, and though the store makes little profit, she is loved by all the residents of Chi…
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This story begins in 1469, in the fifth year of the Chenghua emperor’s reign, when Tan Yunxian was eight years old. So begins Lisa See’s superb account of Chinese medicine in the 15th century. On one level it is a simple story of a girl, Tan, who wants to become a doctor and is tutored by her grandparents who are both doctors. Her best friend Meili…
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We are told not to judge a book by its, cover, but I invite you to judge this book by its delicious cover, the content as rich and colorful as its cover. Pomegranate, by Helen Elaine Lee, is deeply insightful, sad and transformative. The book begins and ends with the same refrain: I live my life forward and backward. Seems like my body remembers wh…
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1900, Travancore, South India She is twelve years old, and she will be married in the morning. Mother and daughter lie on the mat, their wet cheeks glued together. “The saddest day of a girl’s life is the day of her wedding,” her mother says. “After that, God willing, it gets better.” So begins Abraham Verghese’s masterwork, The Covenant of Water, …
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Let me begin by allowing Eleanora Shearer to say in her own words why she wrote this beautiful/awful novel: My aim in writing this novel was to bring to life a story about the Caribbean in the aftermath of slavery—a place and time that is not always well-known or well understood. Doing this history justice was incredibly important to me, especially…
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The best way to introduce you to young Demon Copperhead is to let him announce his entrance: First, I got myself born. A decent crowd was on hand to watch, and they’ve always given me that much: the worst of the job was up to me, my mother being let’s just say out of it. On any other day they’d have seen her outside on the deck of her trailer home,…
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Author, entrepreneur and disability advocate John Samuel began losing his vision at a young age. Instead of letting it limit his future, he's using his experience to expand accessibility across technology and in the workplace. Join us for an aspirational story of grit, resilience, and a more inclusive world. John Samuel - LinkedIn John Samuel websi…
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Joy Castro is a brilliant writer of historical fiction. Many of you readers will know her for her novel Flight Risk. Today I want to talk to you about her 2023 novel, One Brilliant Flame. In her afterward entitled “Gratitude”, she explains part of her motive for writing the book: For most of my life—and I am fifty-four now—I knew nothing about the …
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People with disabilities often face an uphill battle when it comes to finding employment and career growth. Sue and Vanessa speak with Deaf Kids Code and Proctor & Gamble about how they're devising a more inclusive approach to the talent pool - it could be a model for all companies looking to hire and retain top talent. Deaf Kids Code Shireen Hafiz…
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As Director of Product Accessibility at Netflix, Heather Dowdy is helping to ensure that Netflix entertainment is available to be enjoyed by all - with and without disabilities. Heather talks with Sue and Vanessa about how building an accessible entertainment industry helps pave the way to a more inclusive culture. Heather Dowdy LinkedIn We Get Rea…
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Kristi Ray & Erika Arlee are Wilmington NC- based filmmakers who are bringing their profession to young girls through their innovative summer camp, Shoot Like a Girl. Besides producing their own mission-driven original films through their company Honey Head Films, they're helping to ensure that more women have the technical know-how and decision-ma…
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Most readers know of Walter Mosley via his masterful Easy Rawlins mystery series. His faithful readers would no doubt hurry to get hold of a new book in that series, but my hunch is that Mosley wanted to speak with a different voice than the relatively well off Easy Rawlins who has both money and muscles on his side. Instead, the hero of Always Out…
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The holidays can be an especially hard time of year for someone in pain. Mammogen's CEO Liz Cormier-May has some advice for ways to show support. Talent Specialist Alisa Walters helps us vet the "Best Places to Work" lists, and we have this week's top tech news. - This is a re-release of a top holiday segment from the podcast archives! Support the …
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Although this happened more when I was younger, I occasionally run into an author who so impresses me that I know I will read all of her work as soon as I can get hold of it. Sue Miller is just such an author. I have now read all but one of her long list of excellent novels including her memoir of her father, The Story of My Father. The recurring t…
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Sue and Vanessa speak with women's finance expert Nicole Hartwig about how to make the most of a Holiday Bonus, & Talent Specialist Alisa Walters has some tips for staying productive this month. Plus, we have some no-cost/low-cost home decor tips to make your house merry & bright. This is a re-release of one of our top holiday season episodes! Real…
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Talent Specialist and career coach Alisa Walters offers a few tips for how to say "No" at work. Find Alisa Walters Online: LinkedIn We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa Alava LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Sue Robinson LinkedIn Instagram Audio Producer/Editor: Sam Mclean Instagram Website Audio Music T…
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I know next to nothing about horses and am, at best, a sloppy historian. Geraldine Brooks knows tons about horses and is a superb historian. Her 2022 book, Horse, fascinated me from the first page to the last. Her character Jess, in 2019, is an articulator, i.e. a combination artist and zoologist who puts together skeletons. She is hired by the Smi…
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Futurists Cathy Hackl and John Buzzell talk about their book, The Augmented Workforce - geared to help the non-technical professional understand the metaverse and the impact technology has and will continue having on business. (re-release) Find Cathy Hackl & John Buzzell Online: Cathy LinkedIn John LinkedIn Referenced: The Augmented Workforce: How …
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Imagine if 1 million more school-age girls were engaged in STEM activities in the next five years... it could help close the technology sector's gender gap while expanding the talent pipeline. This is the goal of the Million Girls Moonshot, and its director Teresa Drew chats with Sue and Vanessa about how her program is shaping the future. (re-rele…
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Talent Specialist Alisa Walters explains the 5 most common types of communication styles that you often find in the workplace and how they affect others - which one describes you? (re-release) Find Alisa Walters Online: LinkedIn We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa Alava LinkedIn Instagram Twitter …
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Turning the "damsel in distress" into a badass! CEO Madeline Di Nonno explains how the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media is using AI to help Hollywood write more diverse scripts and re-frame the way women and under-represented people are portrayed in movies and TV shows. (Re-release) Find Madeline di Nonno Online: LinkedIn Referenced: Geena …
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Sue, Vanessa & Alisa provide practical ways to be more assertive at work and in life in this episode on effective communication. (re-release) Find Alisa Walters Online: LinkedIn We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa Alava LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Sue Robinson LinkedIn Instagram Audio Producer/Edit…
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Sue, Vanessa & Alisa talk about important interview questions YOU should be asking a potential employer. (Re-release) Find Alisa Walters Online: LinkedIn We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa Alava LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Sue Robinson LinkedIn Instagram Audio Producer/Editor: Sam Mclean Instagram…
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Woman-led Mammogen Inc. is looking for breast cancers in a whole new way: using liquid biopsy to detect cancers far earlier, for more women, and with greater accuracy than traditional mammograms. They're also passionate about building a community to support women well beyond their initial diagnosis. A special look at the promising future for earlie…
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In the age of social media, employers and colleagues will be looking for you online. Talent Specialist Alisa Walters has tips for building a strong personal brand. (Re-Release) Find Alisa Walters Online: LinkedIn We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa Alava LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Sue Robinson Lin…
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VR and AR allow you to visit worlds from the microscopic to the intergalactic. Meta's Monica Arés leads the company's innovative technology for education, with a focus on immersive technologies: (Virtual Reality and Augmented Reality). Monica describes how these technologies will allow kids & adults to learn and teach in ways never possible at any …
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Nicole is the founder and CEO of a female focused financial education app, Capri, designed to empower women with tools, support, and a community to achieve financial wellness. (Re-release) Find Nicole Hartwig-Landau Online: LinkedIn Instagram Referenced: Capri We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa A…
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Talent specialist & career coach Alisa Walters explains behavioral based interviewing and how to best showcase your soft skills. (Re-release) Find Alisa Walters Online: LinkedIn We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa Alava LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Sue Robinson LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Audio Produ…
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He’s been much more careful in his marriage to Annie. More careful and more faithful. Yet not entirely faithful. Which is partly what’s making him remember the end with Frieda. Because he’s done it again. Sue Miller has done it again: written an astounding novel about family life and all of its complexities. In her newest novel, Monogamy, published…
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Dr. Adriana Marais is a theoretical physicist & technologist who’s dedicated her career to studying off-world settlements in preparation for the colonization of Mars. Find Dr. Adriana Marais Online: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adriana__marais/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/adrianamarais LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriana-marais-a…
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Talent Specialist and career coach Alisa Walters offers a few tips for how to say "No" at work. Find Alisa Walters Online: LinkedIn We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa Alava LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Sue Robinson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannemrobinson/ Instagram: https://www.insta…
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Laura is the Co-Founder and CTO of a non-profit organization dedicated to training survivors of human trafficking and gender-based violence in coding and other in-demand technology skills. Find Laura Hackney Online: Twitter: https://twitter.com/LHack47 Find Annie Cannons Online: Twitter: https://twitter.com/anniecannons Website: https://anniecannon…
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Talent specialist & career coach Alisa Walters talks about how creating a decision map helps empower and inform career moves. Referenced: Inc.com Fairy God Boss Geek Wire Guests: Profesh Sesh w. Alisa Walters We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa Alava LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Sue Robinson LinkedI…
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Holly Budge is living proof that saying yes to one moment of insane courage can change the trajectory of your life! The 1st woman to skydive Mt. Everest, Holly now uses her training in design and data science to fight the illegal poaching of African elephants for ivory. She shares her incredible, adventure-filled journey and offers very practical &…
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Preeti Desai is a successful corporate lawyer who has, in her estimation, finally achieved the assimilation into American culture that she had striven all of her life to achieve. But then a horrible accident involving her brother and sister-in-law, call her back to India, and she realizes how much she still walks like and elephant. Her mother has t…
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Few things are as delicate - or important- to talk about as money. Find out how and why to negotiate your compensation and salary increases with our career expert, professional recruiter, and talent specialist Alisa Walters! Guests: Profesh Sesh w. Alisa Walters We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa…
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Artificial Intelligence (AI) tracks us at airports, assesses job candidates & more. How are ethics being applied to this fast-evolving tech? We speak with Tania Duarte, founder of the U.K.'s We & AI, educating & empowering people to have a voice on AI. Find Tania Duarte Online: LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanduarte/ Twitter: https://twitte…
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Our talent specialist Alisa Walters shares her advice for knowing when it's time to leave a position and how to do it thoughtfully. Guests: Profesh Sesh w. Alisa Walters We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson Vanessa Alava LinkedIn Instagram Twitter Sue Robinson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannem…
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The sextech industry is growing exponentially, and innovative sex toys are just one piece of the story. Join us for a fun and enlightening conversation about the many ways tech is shaping sexual wellness, fertility, sex education, sexual assault prevention and yes, more fun in the bedroom! Our guest is Bryony Cole, founder of SexTech School and hos…
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Judy Blunt wrote these lovely snapshots of thirty years of life on wheat and cattle ranches in northeastern Montana as memoir. It stuns me that I had not run across this book before, finally gathered together as a book in 2002. Many, even most, of my reader friends had read this long ago. I’m happy I discovered the volume on a friend’s bookshelf du…
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Modern technology is empowering forensic scientists to peer into broken fragments of remnant DNA to solve decades-old cold cases. Join Sue and Vanessa in a fascinating conversation about cutting-edge crime investigation with forensic scientist and professor, Kelly Knight. Find Kelly Knight Online: Website Instagram Facebook Twitter We Get Real AF P…
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Abi is the founder of a STEM education solutions provider focused on gender inclusivity and raising inspired smart girls. Find Abi Olukeye Online: LinkedIn Referenced: Raising Smart Girls Smart Girls HQ LinkedIn Smart Girls HQ Instagram Smart Girls HQ Twitter Smart Girls HQ Facebook We Get Real AF Podcast Credits: Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava &…
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Raqi is an award winning immersive film director and an accomplished VR Developer & Lighting Artist. She is the Program Director – Master of Design Technology at Victoria University of Wellington. Find Raqi Syed Online: Instagram LinkedIn Twitter Victoria University of Wellington Referenced: 2001: A Space Odyssey Star Wars George Lucas: Maker of Fi…
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Ashley is the VP of Medical Devices at an invisible computing company dedicated to developing products and platforms that re-imagine the intersection of ideas, information, and people. Find Dr. Ashley Tuan Online: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kuang-mon-ashley-tuan-2784934 Find Mojo Vision Online: Twitter: https://twitter.com/MojoVisionInc …
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We kick off our Throwback Summer series with a re-release of our conversation with Indi Young, a qualitative data scientist. Indi helps organizations better understand human behavior for product design strategy and innovation. Find Indi Young Online: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/indiyoung/ Website: https://indiyoung.com/ Referenced: Dr. Br…
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Liz Cormier-May of Mammogen gets real about men's health and what we can do to help keep the men in our lives healthy. Alisa Walters the Recruiter joins us to talk about what makes a company a great place to work, and Vanessa & Sue wrap up Season 3! Be sure to stay tuned for our Summer Throwback Series: a re-release of some of our favorite episodes…
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Elizabeth Zott is a brilliant chemist who, perhaps unfortunately, is also beautiful. Once a research chemist, Elizabeth Zott was a woman with flawless skin and an unmistakable demeanor of someone who was not average and never would be. The main character in Bonnie Garmus’ delightful 2022 novel, Lessons in Chemistry is as stubborn as she is brillian…
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Dr. Leslie Marshall is a positive parenting educator who unpacks wisdom and practical tips for how you can correct your kids misbehavior while also strengthening your bond. Recruiter Alisa Walters shares some jobs that offer surprisingly high salaries. And, don't let inflation dampen your summer spirit... Sue & Vanessa share a mindset shift that wi…
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Sex and intimacy change throughout the seasons of our lives - whether it be from cancer recovery, postpartum, the hectic years of raising littles, or menopause. Our expert guest Liz Cormier-May of Mammogen gets real about what women (and men) may experience sexually during each of these seasons, and how to talk about it with your partner. Alisa the…
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Raising kids in an ever changing digital world can be scary! Dr. Leslie Marshall joins us again with wise and practical advice for raising safe digital children of the world. Talent Specialist Alisa Walters explains the importance of positive company culture and what questions we should be asking prospective employers, and Vanessa and Sue talk abou…
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