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What motivates people? Why do they do what they do? What does leadership actually mean in today’s world? Good questions, right? That’s what Cathy Brooks, thought. And it’s why she created Talk, Unleashed – a podcast of candid conversation. Sometimes as commentary. Sometimes as discussions with fascinating people doing remarkable things. Topics range widely and all of them have one thing in common. Dogs.
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The Changes Ahead Podcast

Cathy Marston & Steven Goulstone

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It is no secret that the church in the West is in decline and there seems to have been unending talk about the church needing to change. Despite this, the number of sustainable alternatives or even smaller changes to what most would be familiar with as church is tragically low. This podcast is capturing thoughts of people who can see the Changes Ahead of us. Together we’ll be challenged, provoked even, by the views of people who are thinking about how the church might thrive going forward. S ...
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The “Your Pharmacy Career” Podcast will feature a leader from the profession, discussing their career and sharing their experiences and learnings. Hosted by Pharmacist, Krysti-Lee Patterson, get ready to be inspired, informed, and empowered as Krysti-Lee shares her wisdom, experiences, and interviews some of the brightest minds in the field. Whether you're a seasoned professional, a budding pharmacist, or just curious about the diverse opportunities in pharmacy, "Your Pharmacy Career" is you ...
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Lead Like a Lady with Gina L. Osborn - A Real Life Podcast features remarkable women who have risen to the top in male dominated industries. From aviation to construction, law enforcement to sports, they share their stories, inspire greatness and provide lessons learned to all the women (and men) coming up behind them. Host Gina L. Osborn is an Army Veteran and Retired FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge.
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Though this relates to a specific incident a week or so ago, the troubling truth is that whenever you’re listening to this episode, it’s likely there’s been another incident that had the same result. A thing happened. One group of people celebrated it. Another group of people decried it as travesty, a disgrace. Both responses are bullshit. Saturate…
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Jaime Konzelman is the kind of woman whose story will stop you in your tracks. It’s also the kind of story that, at least probably until somewhat recent years, most folks would have avoided telling. I mean, it’s not often that a high-power, deal-making corporate executive admits to having gotten her start as a stripper. She’s not the first woman I’…
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Cathie Reid and her husband Stuart Giles co-founded the Epic Pharmacy Group in 1998 and also co-founded Australia’s largest dedicated cancer care provider, the Icon Group in 2012. In 2020 Cathie and Stuart established their family office Arc31, where her long term activity in the healthcare and technology sectors is providing insights and access to…
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When I was 9 years old I convinced one of my neighbors that my mother would allow me to have one of their Guinea Pigs. I brought it home. Needless to say, it didn’t go so well. Had the little guy long enough to name him Cornflake, and then return him. That's the last time I randomly brought home an animal for which I wasn’t properly set up to provi…
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Sometimes, it can be hard to see what the Spirit is up to in the church, but for Paul Fletcher, who spends most of his time beyond the walls of the church he leads with people who are on the margins of society, the activity of the Spirit is far more evident. We can learn a lot from those experiences if we are courageous. Paul’s work also involves s…
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One of the most irritating things about driving in most American urban and suburban areas is the utter sense of entitlement and disregard for anything even remotely resembling courtesy. Head to Paris or most any city in Europe where complex roundabouts and other traffic control exist, and watch as what seems to be chaos, orchestrates perfectly. It’…
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Driving around in the country you see a lot of times when some woodland creature just didn’t make it across the road. I do my best to not be the person leaving that collateral damage behind me. In this week’s episode - a case of stopping in my tracks - and in the process engaging with someone whose politics and views lay just about as far from mine…
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Not sure when it happened but at some point doing nice things for people became suspect. You do something for someone and they think you want something. Sad, really. Result is that most folks keep to themselves, don't share when they need help and end up floundering around in this world trying to get shit done. Or take it to the other extreme and b…
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If you were an 80s kid you recall the whole going out to play after dinner and coming home before the street lights come on thing. You may also recall that most folks’ parents had some sort of whistle or call, a code that said - get your a$$ home. My father has been dead for 24 years. And the other night I heard part of his whistle. In the woods. S…
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I’m not sure when it happened but at some point, good healthy competition and the drive for self-improvement and growth became a zero sum game where one person’s success was only valued at the cost of someone else. That the climb to the top became based on climbing over others. As if there’s only one ladder, one mountain. Thing is, there isn’t. We …
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I grew up in a family where I was taught that speaking up and using your voice matters. That having beliefs and standing by them, matters. Today’s world, though, seems saturated with folks who are so focused on doing that, they lock into wherever they are, double down and become very committed to how right they are - and how wrong others are. It wa…
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Ah the joy of musical memories. Experiences, thoughts and phrases that trigger some song or another in my head. In the case of this week’s episode, though I reference Kate Smith and the whole “It ain’t over till the fat lady sings” thing, the song I’m really hearing is by Lenny Kravitz. It ain’t over, till it’s over. Either way, the point is this -…
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This is a very special episode. Both because I diverge from my usual format and because of the incredible guest whose wisdom you get to experience. Her name is Lisa Kalmin and she is among the elite in the world of Transformational Leadership. In this wide ranging conversation, Lisa shares how she came to the world of Transformational Leadership, a…
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It’s one of the key moments in the movie The Matrix. That moment when Neo chooses the “red pill”. Now if you haven’t seen the movie, that makes no sense. So if that’s the case, here’s a metaphor that might work - the idea that you cannot un-bake a cake, cannot un-ring a bell. Once a thing is seen or known, it cannot be otherwise. What on earth does…
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Vanessa Lontos is a community pharmacist, previous pharmacy owner and inspiring pharmacy leader, speaker, and coach. Vanessa provides coaching and development to pharmacists and pharmacy teams across Australia, focusing on patient engagement, team culture, leadership, and change management to enhance their ability, and confidence, to deliver compre…
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When you’re learning to walk, no one berates you for falling down. Somehow, once we get older, falling down is seen as humiliation. Embarrassment. And that applies whether that falling down is literal or figurative. Last thing you want to do is make a mistake, fall down. Problem is, we all do it, and so having shame around it doesn’t really serve. …
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We’re taught to listen to authority. Kids learn to ask “Why?” and parents respond “Because I said so.” Over time, we question, query and dig underneath. Today’s culture - saturated by psychotherapy and coaches - encourages people to ask “What’s underneath that?” Questioning and digging underneath every action’s motivation. It’s exhausting. It’s als…
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When I heard Kara Swisher was writing her memoir, Burn Book, I couldn’t wait. Besides being one of - if not the - most influential Journalists covering Silicon Valley and tech at the rise of the Internet Age, she’s a stupendous writer, and is never one to shy away from calling bullsh*t. Admission - at this recording I've only read the introduction.…
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Yvette Anderson is a clinical accredited pharmacist and pharmapreneur passionate about neurodevelopmental conditions. Spanning over 15 years as a registered pharmacist Yvette has experience in aged care, consultancy, community pharmacy and both private and public hospital pharmacy. In 2020 Yvette launched The Spectrum Pharmacist, a combination of p…
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When you think about balance, what comes up for you? Do you go immediately to the ever-present impossible expectation of life/work balance? If so, this episode is absolutely for you. It’s about a terrifying experience I had with literal balance that made me take a good, hard look at just how out of what my internal balance was. And more importantly…
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Where do YOU belong? Where is the place you just fit, no matter what? The whole idea of “home is where the heart is” has such value - and it’s not just about the heart. Those online “quizzes” that ask the question - “where would YOU prefer to live?” With images of mountains, the desert, forest, beach and cities - implying that the choice determines…
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This week, inspired by a quote from Eleanor Roosevelt, I ponder the value that society places on one of the most toxic behaviors around communication - gossip. Let’s be clear - we all have done or do it. Everyone. So let’s take a deep breath. The person who truly and honestly NEVER does is a rare creature indeed. It’s not new behavior - people have…
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Steve Morris is the CEO, Pharmaceutical Society of Australia. Steve is motivated by making positive and real change in people’s lives through improved health care. After completing a degree in pharmacy and spending time volunteering early in his career in India, Steve realised his strengths were strategic and that he wanted to make a wider differen…
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Some topics just like to stick around. Pausing. Silence. The power that comes from taking … a … breath. This week, the power of the pause (but that’s always PAWS for me). How do dogs stay in the moment and what can we learn from that and how does communication shift? In a world where what passes for radical honesty usually means someone is just let…
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This week another meander into a concept that everyone seems to “get” and plenty of people talk about. But for some reason, most folks have their heads shoved squarely up their a$$ when it comes to what it *actually* means. The power of silence. Silence is the most informative, instructive and valuable place when it comes to making decisions and fi…
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Last week I talked about how context is bullsh*t. Since there’s so much shit around these days, figured taking on the ridiculous premise of “brutal honesty” would be next. Put simply, #brutalhonesty is a load of horsesh*t. The word brutal literally means savage, violent and destructive. So by association anyone who would be “brutal” with honesty? Y…
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Vivian Lee is a Senior Consultant at IQVIA, as part of the Strategic Insights and Analytics team. Her expertise is in leading and executing projects in the management consulting and commercial effectiveness area of practice for Consumer Health and Pharmaceutical clients, where she brings her in-depth industry knowledge of the retail pharmacy landsc…
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Amazing how words and concepts get hijacked and bastardized. Because OF COURSE communication has a level of context to it. Saying “I love you” for example in one setting (like to a friend) has an entirely different meaning when looking into the eyes of someone you’re dating. (The latter sometimes even giving rise to a sense of nausea if if the firs…
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So many times in this Creative space we undervalue our worth!! It's so rewarding to understand your worth, and the value of your skills. Just a tip or two for us all to remember what we do is actually a valued talent and if it is your business, treat it like a business. If you are looking to improve your skills or learn some new skills in the world…
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If you were a tree, what kind would you be? It’s one of the oldest urban legend interview stories. It’s said that Barbara Walters famously asked that of Katharine Hepburn. Turns out the actual interview didn’t go that way, but Hepburn DID note that she’d lived her life as an Oak tree. What on earth does that have to do with communication? Everythin…
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This is about cookies. Bet you saw the title and thought this was about something else. Sorry to disappoint, but this is about cookies. Also it’s about complacency. It’s about what happens when you get so “comfortable” with a skillset you’ve “mastered” you take your foot off the gas. Stop pushing yourself. Stop reaching for excellence. During holid…
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Tom Simpson is the President, Society of Hospital Pharmacists of Australia and Executive Director, Statewide Hospital Pharmacy Tasmania, and has held positions as Chair, Statewide Pharmacy Executive Committee, the Tasmanian Minister’s Health Council and the Pharmacy Board of Tasmania. Tom is a member of the SHPA Leadership and Management Specialty …
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Kicking off a New Year felt like this particular topic was apt. Getting back on the horse. Starting again. Most skills we develop require some level of practical application or practice to maintain. Learning an instrument as a kid doesn’t mean you’ll be able to just play it later if you don’t keep up with practice. Other things may be a bit rusty b…
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Going shopping during holiday season can be a bit like a full contact sport. Which is precisely why it’s my favorite time of year to go shopping. It’s when the best and most powerful lessons about human behavior and communication are writ large. This year was no different, and this time around - courtesy of a high-traffic Target Superstore - the le…
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There’s something romantic about an old school map - those things made out of paper folks used to use to navigate from one spot to another. Technology made these obsolete. Navigation built into cars or on your cell phone - plug in your destination and GPS does the rest. It’ll even immediately re-route if the system detects traffic or issues. Far mo…
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Mother Nature sure has a way about her. Damn smart, really. Not that this should be new information, I guess, but there’s something remarkably powerful when she lands messages that are relevant for every aspect of life. In this week’s episode - lessons from nature that relate deeply to heat of conversation and how to cool it down. In a world where …
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We've reached the end of another season, and to wrap it up, Cathy and Steven reflect on The Changes Ahead that we've heard this year and are trying in our church spaces through the lens of the recently released Wilberforce 'Faith and Belief' study. Thanks for being on the journey with us for another year!…
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Those who don’t remember the past are condemned to repeat it. I always found that statement to be dark. It also can sometimes create a whole new problem. Spending time saturated in the past not only doesn’t prevent things from happening again, it almost guarantees that you’ll attract precisely that which you’re paying attention to. That creates som…
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Making it work. Getting it done. Powering through the problem. This way of thinking has its value AND it’s also a colossal contributor to the mess that is our world. After all, if someone doesn’t speak a language, talking more slowly and loudly in that language to them, doesn’t work. If you hit an obstacle, backing up and running at it harder MIGHT…
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Well, I can confirm it’s true. Bears DO sh*t in the woods. I know because I came across a very very very very very fresh pile of bear scat during a hike. The good news - I didn’t step in it. The better news, though incredibly fresh (and likely meaning the bear wasn’t far off), I didn’t actually meet the bear. The even better news - the whole experi…
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When expectations don’t match reality, what is going to get us through? For Nat, a small business owner and mother of two, the values that underpin why she started her business sustained her in the professional and personal space she was in. As Nat shares her story, we get glimpses into how faith, parenting, business and church intersect to drive h…
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Advertising is a funny thing. Words and phrases become identified with a brand based on artful and consistent use. “Just do it”. “We love to fly and it shows.” “Where’s the Beef?” What happens when words feel weaponized? What happens when words that appear to be celebratory or positive have a darker meaning? What happens when words are used to spli…
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The word ritual has a lot of weight to it. Its main definition designates it as being about religious ceremony. Pretty sure that’s where my resistance to it comes from. Truth is, though, that ritual doesn’t have to be heavy, or religious. Ritual, having some sort of consistent process or practice, can be a source of comfort, solace and a beautiful …
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Jamil Karaki, a Locum Pharmacist deeply rooted in the world of retail pharmacy and education. Jamil wears multiple hats, not only as a dedicated educator in the pharmacy program at the University of New South Wales but also as a dynamic content creator on TikTok, where he imparts invaluable health tips and tricks to the public as @megamindpharmacis…
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COME ON CATHY LIGHTEN UP! That started out as a CAPS LOCK error, but seemed pretty apropos to keep. So I did, because that was very much on my mind in putting together this week’s episode. How to come from a lighter place in times that feel so darn dark? That’s the key, though, in compassionate communication. So in this week’s episode, an attempt t…
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The last weeks have been trying times for anyone with a pulse. Feelings from fury to fear. People from all walks of life letting fly with words of fury and over-amplified emotion or remaining silent, feeling they have nothing they can say. When someone’s work IS communication that presents an interesting situation. How to enter the conversation and…
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No sooner were we back from hiatus with an episode on minding my own business, boundaries and respect of space, when the world seemed to go even further sideways into hatred. And so, rather than trying to make sense and speak about it, this week - for OUR 100TH EPISODE - it felt appropriate to repeat one of our most powerful episodes — An interview…
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Why are you voting the way you are going to this week? How does faith inform the way you vote? Answering these questions can be tricky, but we reckon they're important ones to try. Since it’s election week, we thought we’d have a chat about what this means for us with Brook, someone who is passionate about engaging positively and faithfully in the …
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WELCOME BACK listeners! After a delicious summer hiatus, Cathy is back with a new season of Talk, Unleashed and kicking off with thoughts that percolated from a recent trip to New York City. The thing that came up? Mind your own @#(*&$ business - and how that, and statements like it, masquerade as “being honest”. Here’s the thing - it’s not honest.…
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