Join award-winning and best-selling fiction authors Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch, and Sian Ann Bessey as they gather around the figurative kitchen table to talk and laugh about books, writing, and life. Between the Lines: a podcast for readers and writers
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I’m weird, you’re weird, we’re all weird about money. Weird Finance explores the often intimidating terrain of money, finances, and economics and how these invisible forces shape each person’s ideas about themselves and the world around them. Hosted by author, illustrator, and musician Paco de Leon; Weird Finance is all about have real, honest, unconventional money conversations with the aim of getting comfortable with the uncomfortable and changing our relationship with money. We’ll laugh s ...
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Everyone you meet, every single day, is fighting a battle you know nothing about. We are all in the process of overcoming something big, something small, but we are faced with the challenge to overcome all the time. You, me, we have overcome 100% of our darkest days. I’m Justin Wren, and I believe we are all Overcomers if we choose to overcome. We all have the option. I have overcome childhood trauma, sexual abuse, immense bullying, depression, suicidal ideation, self-imposed substance abuse ...
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Client Spotlight: Building a Community & The Story of Folklore Salon
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, host Paco de Leon sits down with Pony Lee Musgrave, founder of Folklore Salon, to discuss the intersection of business and community. Pony shares their journey from aspiring artist to successful business owner, emphasizing the value of cr…
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Work For Yourself, From Anywhere in the World with Niluka Kavanagh
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco and Niluka Kavanagh dive deep into the evolving landscape of remote work and entrepreneurship. Niluka shares her journey from working at KPMG after studying at Oxford, to becoming a digital nomad and founding her company, Imagine Tha…
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Send us a Text Message. Have you ever wondered how audiobooks get made? This episode features audiobook narrator Nancy Peterson, who shares the ins and outs of what it takes to record a book and even shares some of her favorite accents.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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How to Think Like a Financial Planner with Cristina Livadary and Stephanie Bucko
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, host Paco de Leon, along with Stephanie Bucko and Cristina Livadary from Mana Financial Life Design (@manafld), dive into the essentials of thinking like a financial planner. They discuss targeting clients with growth mindsets, particular…
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Client Spotlight: Telling Your Story Is Good For Business with Sarah Salvatoriello
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. Welcome back to another exciting episode of Weird Finance! In this episode, we have a special Client Spotlight featuring the brilliant Sarah Salvatoriello, founder of the creative branding studio Ampersand & Ampersand. In this episode, we'll dive deep into the nuances of …
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Send us a Text Message. How decisive are you? It took the four of us over two hours to decide what to wear for a recent book signing. We may need help...By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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How to Use the Law to Empower Your Creative Business
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, host Paco speaks with attorney Chris Valdheims about the essential role of legal matters in empowering creative businesses. They discuss creative industry legal battles, the importance of addressing legal issues proactively, and the incre…
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More Lessons I've Learned Bootstrapping A Bookkeeping Agency
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, The Hell Yeah Group’s editorial associate, financial coach, and co-founder of Ladies Talking About Money, Cole Kalin, returns to the show to ask Paco more questions about her journey building her bookkeeping agency. Paco emphasizes the im…
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Send us a Text Message. Do authors remember everything they wrote? In this episode, our share how sometimes a simple question from a reader can be much more complex than anticipated.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Unpacking What Money Means to You with Amanda Clayman
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco de Leon is joined by financial therapist Amanda Clayman to explore the intricate relationship between emotions and money. They dive into personal struggles with perfectionism and shame in financial management, and find solace in shar…
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How Artists Can Protect Their Work and Their Legacies with Katherine de Vos Devine
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco speaks with Katherine de Vos Devine, an attorney specializing in art law. Katherine discusses the importance of legal and financial management for artists. She shares her journey from art history to law and explains why she chose to …
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Send us a Text Message. It's a fifth-Wednesday game episode, and Sarah has another goofy game up her sleeve. Join in, play along, and see if you're any better at it than the Between the Lines ladies are!By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Get Over Your Money Blocks and Fear of Being Seen So You Can Grow Your Business with Eden Connelly Tallarico
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to holistic business teacher, coach, and the creator of New Money Social Club (@newmoneysocial.club), Eden Connelly Tallarico. They delves into overcoming money blocks and fears while growing a business, the importance of clari…
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Send us a Text Message. From publishing a first book to reaching professional milestones, in this episode we discuss how we measure success in this crazy world of publishing.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Building a Solid Legal Foundation for Your Creative Business with Grant Atkinson
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to Grant Atkinson to delve into the multifaceted world of entrepreneurship and legal services for creative businesses. Grant candidly discusses the challenges of entrepreneurship, from financial struggles and risk management to…
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Lessons I've Learned Bootstrapping A Bookkeeping Agency
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, The Hell Yeah Group’s editorial associate, financial coach and co-founder of Ladies Talking About Money, Cole Kalin, turns the table on this episode by interviewing Paco. In this conversation, Cole and Paco dive deep into the challenges a…
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Send us a Text Message. All the Between the Lines ladies write books with romance, swoony love stories, and ample romantic awkwardness. Are they drawing from real life? In today's episode, Sarah digs into the ladies' real-life love stories!By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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How PR Is a Vehicle for Power and Money with Caitlin Copple and Holly Conti
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco speaks to Caitlin Copple and Holly Conti, partners at Full Swing PR. They dive into the transformative world of public relations, exploring how it not only bolsters brand visibility but also addresses crucial social disparities. This…
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Send us a Text Message. Esther leaves on a trip without her co-hosts, so Sarah, Traci, and Sian spend the podcast talking about some of their most memorable travels--from the unexpectedly wonderful surprises to their hilariously disastrous adventures.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Book Covers! with guest Cover Designer Christina Marcano
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Send us a Text Message. If you've always wanted to know what goes into making a book cover, don't miss this episode! Special guest, Christina Marcano, gives us all the inside scoop.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Send us a Text Message. You do what for a living? Let's talk about the pros and cons of being an author.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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To stay in touch with us during this hiatus, sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. We’d also love your listener feedback about the show; here’s a short survey. You can also contact us by calling our hotline at 1-833-ASK-PACO, by emailing us at weirdfinancepod (at) gmail.com or by submitting your questions here. See omnystudio.…
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Send us a Text Message. Writing rules are always changing. In this episodes, Traci leads the discussion on what the rules are and when breaking them is not only okay, but it's also a good idea.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Change vs Comfort Zone, with guest author Sarah L McConkie
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Send us a Text Message. The only thing we can plan on is change, right? Special guest Sarah L. McConkie joins us today as we talk about embracing the good in change.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Send us a Text Message. Kissing Scenes: the best part to write or sheer torture? The Between the Lines ladies have very strong and differing feelings about these crucial and tricky scenes. Join us for a hilarious and ridiculous discussion of this listener-favorite topic.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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How to Build a Million-Dollar Business with Rachel Rodgers
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to Rachel Rodgers. Rachel shares her personal tale of going from lawyer to exhilarating business coach, emphasizing the significance of pursuing work that fuels your passion. They delve into the intriguing world of making bold …
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Why Cultivating Your Creative Community Is Essential with Bryce Dallas Howard
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco speaks with renowned actress and director Bryce Dallas Howard (@brycedhoward) about the challenges and opportunities in the entertainment industry, her work supporting emerging entertainment entrepreneurs through Nine Muses Entertain…
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Send us a Text Message. Join in as Sarah leads the ladies through laughter-filled game of "Would You Rather? - Author Edition"By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Wait? You want us to make a podcast? With special guest Amy Parker
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Send us a Text Message. Did you know it was a marketer from our publishing house that decided we needed to make this podcast? Today we invite Amy Parker on to the show to give us some marketing insights and see if she regrets ever coming up with the hare-brained idea of Between the Lines.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Reimagining Our Relationship to Work and Ambition with Amina AlTai
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, our host Paco delves into a conversation with Amina AlTai about reimagining our relationship to work. The conversation covers a range of topics, beginning with the notion of shame and guilt tied to earning money, with Amina revealing that…
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Debunking Frugality Myths with Jen Smith and Jill Sirianni
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco unpacks the hottest new personal finance trend of loud budgeting with frugality experts Jen Smith and Jill Sirianni from the Frugal Friends podcast. Jen and Jill delve into their stories: what prompted them to begin their frugal jour…
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How to Unravel Money Guilt with Kristan Sargeant
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, we dive deep into the intertwined realms of financial health and personal growth with our esteemed guest, Kristan Sargeant. Kristan shares the transformative power of accessing the unconscious to unlock healing and potential. Touching on …
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Send us a Text Message. Everyone enjoys a bit of humor in their reading, but how important is it really?By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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I Survived Capitalism and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt with Madeline Pendleton
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this compelling episode of Weird Finance, Madeline Pendleton, the dynamic owner of the vintage clothing company Tunnel Vision and TikTok's "Gen Z's Aunt Madeline," dives deep into the complexities of financial control, economic destiny, and the interplay between person…
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Why You Need a Will and Maybe a Trust with Patrick Hicks
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco speaks with Patrick Hicks of Trust and Will about the ins and outs of estate planning. Patrick explains why it’s crucial for everyone—not just the wealthy—to understand wills, trusts, and probate. He debunks the common misconception …
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Send us a Text Message. Join our hosts as they reflect on their highs and lows from 2023, and find out what they have in store for the year to come.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Emotionally Balanced Money Management with Marsha Barnes
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this insightful episode of Weird Finance, our guest Marsha Barnes takes listeners on a deep dive into personal finance, financial planning, and the emotional connections to money. Marsha shares her journey from banking to entrepreneurship, emphasizing the importance of…
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How Prenups Support Marital and Money Health with Aaron Thomas
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco chats with lawyer and financial expert Aaron Thomas to discuss prenuptial agreements. Aaron shares his journey from skepticism to appreciation for prenups, emphasizing that they can be more than just a safety measure in case of divor…
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Connecting in the writing world with special guest Dani Pettrey
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Send us a Text Message. Making connections in the writing world can be daunting. Dani Pettrey joins us to share ideas on how it can be done.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Breaking the Taboo of Talking About Money with Maya Lau
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to Maya Lau to pierce the taboo surrounding money talks. They delve deep into Maya's journey from being an investigative journalist to starting her podcast, Other People's Pockets, a venture that allowed her to explore her gues…
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The Surprising Ties Between Money & Relationships with Joel Larsgaard
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco speaks with Joel Larsgaard about how his childhood experiences shaped his relationship with money and catalyzed his personal finance journey. Joel discusses the evolving world of podcasting, the dangers of having too much money, and …
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Send us a Text Message. On today's bonus fifth-Wednesday episode, Sarah quotes from various books written by the Between the Lines ladies to see if her co-hosts can recognize each other's writing, or, more challenging still, recognize their own!By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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Everything that Money Can't Buy with Khe Hy
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this thought-provoking episode of Weird Finance, Paco’s conversation with Khe Hy reveals insights on issues that money can't resolve, such as the universal need to feel worthy of love and the influence of our environment on emotional well-being. Khe sheds light on the …
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We wrote this TOGETHER! with special guest, author Jolene Perry
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Send us a Text Message. Today we talk about the ups and downs, pluses and minuses, and the sometimes complicated process of authors writing a book together. Joining the discussion is acclaimed writer Jolene Perry!By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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The Joys and Challenges of Travel Hacking with Julia Menez
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to Julia Menez about the world of travel hacking. Starting with the basics, Julia highlights the importance of being responsible with credit cards, advising listeners to start small and ensure balances are paid off monthly to r…
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How You Can Save Now, Buy Later with Michael Hershfield
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to Michael Hershfield about the innovative concept behind Accrue, a co-branded savings wallet that aims to revolutionize how we save money. Michael also addresses the lack of innovation in US saving options, the challenges Amer…
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A Mini Master Class, with award-winning author Steven James
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Send us a Text Message. Award-winning author and writing instructor Steven James joins us for this episode of Between the Lines. Join us to hear about his writing journey and soak up some of his wisdom in how the writing world works.By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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What to Do When You're Drowning in Debt with Leslie Tayne
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to Leslie H Tayne about the daunting topic of being overwhelmed by debt. As a renowned expert in debt resolution and founder of her own law firm, Leslie shares her invaluable insights and advice on what to do when you find your…
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Everything You Need to Know About Making Your Student Loan Payments with Dan Rooker
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Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to Dan Rooker about everything you need to know about making your student loan payments. Dan is an expert in the field and will be sharing valuable insights on income-driven repayment plans, recertification requirements, the be…
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Send us a Text Message. You know the Between the Lines ladies now, but what were they like as kids? Sarah's asking the tough questions this week, and the ladies are providing the hilarious childhood anecdotes!By Sarah M. Eden, Traci Hunter Abramson, Esther Hatch and Sian Ann Bessey
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