In this episode, we welcome back David French, columnist for The New York Times , former constitutional attorney, and author of Divided We Fall . We discuss the current state of American democracy, the challenges of political division, and how we can engage in civil discourse despite deep ideological differences. David also shares a personal update on his family and reflects on the profound trials and growth that come with adversity. 📌 What We Discuss: ✔️ How David and his family navigated the challenges of a serious health crisis. ✔️ The rise of political polarization and the factors driving it. ✔️ Why distinguishing between “unwise, unethical, and unlawful” is crucial in analyzing political actions. ✔️ How consuming different perspectives (even opposing ones) helps in understanding political dynamics. ✔️ The role of Christian values in politics and how they are being redefined. ⏳ Episode Highlights 📍 [00:01:00] – David French’s background and his journey from litigation to journalism. 📍 [00:02:30] – Personal update: David shares his wife Nancy’s battle with cancer and their journey as a family. 📍 [00:06:00] – How to navigate personal trials while maintaining faith and resilience. 📍 [00:10:00] – The danger of political paranoia and the pitfalls of extreme polarization. 📍 [00:18:00] – The "friend-enemy" paradigm in American politics and its influence in Christian fundamentalism. 📍 [00:24:00] – Revisiting Divided We Fall : How America’s divisions have devolved since 2020. 📍 [00:40:00] – The categories and differences of unwise, unethical, and unlawful political actions. 📍 [00:55:00] – The balance between justice, kindness, and humility in political engagement. 📍 [01:00:00] – The After Party initiative: A Christian approach to politics focused on values rather than policy. 💬 Featured Quotes 🔹 "You don't know who you truly are until your values are tested." – David French 🔹 "If we focus on the relational, we can have better conversations even across deep differences." – Corey Nathan 🔹 "Justice, kindness, and humility—if you're missing one, you're doing it wrong." – David French 🔹 "The United States has a history of shifting without repenting. We just move on." – David French 📚 Resources Mentioned David French’s Writing: New York Times David’s Book: Divided We Fall The After Party Initiative – More Info Advisory Opinions Podcast (with Sarah Isgur & David French) – Listen Here 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack David French: 🔗 Twitter | BlueSky | New York Times Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…
Episode 16 – Bex Burton: Tuning in to the Universe BEX! Lucky, lucky me! I got to sit down with Bex at Hoopcamp this year and have an incredible talk. This amazing woman is so in tune with the Universe. It gives her a sign and she runs with it with so much passion and love and appreciation. She’s a dancer, a hooper, a Pilates instructor, a masseuse, a life and love coach. Movement is her muse. We met a couple years ago at Hoopcamp and although I can’t remember the circumstances, I remember that we made eye contact and I felt this incredible warmth. I felt like I knew her. And funny thing, she said the same thing about me. But it took a couple years to actually spend some time getting to know each other and holy crap! I am so glad I did. In this interview, Bex shares her fascinating life and honestly, something happened to me. I’m still digesting it. She moved my heart in a way that made me see how I’ve been looking at myself and at my life. I’ve been looking inward, but not in the good way. I’ve been stuck emotionally and physically for about a year and after our conversation, my brain started churning. So many possibilities! My first step was to be a hoop student again so I signed up for a workshop when I got home. Best choice ever! Something has shifted and Bex gave me a push. I think the Universe just gave me a sign and thanks to Bex, I’m going to run with it. Welcome to Bexico! oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Subscribe to Bex’s YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/senseofmotion Surprise Wedding Proposal – Makes me cry every time! http://www.yourredcarpettolove.com http://www.facebook.com/THEBEX http://www.flickr.com/photos/senseofmotion If you have any issues listening to the podcast from this site you can also listen here . The plugin that is supposed to work with QuickTime is outdated and I’m looking into a different ways to share the podcast. Thanks for listening! Music by the dawn machine https://soundcloud.com/thedawnmachine/sets…
Love this man! I snagged Philo at Hoopcamp this year for a chat and I’m still giddy about it. There is a lot of history in this conversation. Rainy Day at Hoopcamp Last year at Hoopcamp we had a little early morning bonding because he had been rained out of his tent and I needed coffee. We sat on the front porch of the dining hall in the rain and just talked. I definitely felt a bit like a fan girl around him. And why not?! But he is warm and sweet and funny as hell. My favorite MC hands down! He was the very first hooper I met while walking toward my first hooping experience – The Northwest Hoop Gathering in Bend, Oregon in 2009. We walked side by side and I asked him if he’d ever been to something like this before and he said he hadn’t been to that one. I was brand new to the hooping world and didn’t know who he was or what I was about to experience when I walked into that gymnasium full of hoopers. Mind blown. Life changed forever. Philo was there at the beginning of my hoop journey. I’m not the only one. MC Philo He told me the story of the origins of Hooping.org – THE hooping portal – which, interestingly enough, has some of its roots in the early days of blogging. Honestly, it was like sitting by the campfire listening to the lore of a world that is still mysterious to me. This year I missed out on his workshop. Boo! This man can dance in a hoop and I enjoy watching him so much. Both he and Anah Reichenbach (Hoopalicious) are self-proclaimed “body rockers” and it’s sort of my style too. But at Hoopcamp, there were so many ways to hoop and I enjoyed exploring some of those new ways. Some Good Stuff… Philo’s Gotta Hoop! Hooping.org Philo’s Blog http://philohagen.com http://philohagen.com/hoop-dance/ Bay Area Hoopers L.A. Hoopers Facebook Sadly Jason’s hoop making instructions aren’t online. http://www.hooping.org/2006/08/how-to-make-a-hula-hoop/ See the aura photos! Music by the dawn machine…
Belly Fusion Workshop Recorded in March 2015 in San Francisco before her performance at the DNA Lounge, Valentina Martin caught me up on her life – a fusion of her talents and passions. Hooping with Nicole Wong in Dolores Park I happened to be in town spending time with my husband (we eloped in January 2015!). I timed it just right so I could take Valentina’s Belly Fusion workshop that combines belly dancing and hooping. She’s an amazing teacher and I continue to say that I want to be her when I grow up. Imitation is supposedly the sincerest form of flattery. I made a run at imitating Valentina when I went to the Rose City School of Burlesque and combined my hooping with a couple of acts. That lasted about 6 months basically because 1) I accomplished my goal and 2) it’s hard to come up with a new act and costume every couple of weeks! My hat – and bra! – off to this lady. She has created spectacular performances and shows with her hoop troupe, The Hoop Unit, her belly dancing and burlesque talents and now in Twisted Orbit, her partnership with her husband, Steve Bags. Fusion. Partner Possibilities Workshop at Hoopcamp 2015 Lucky for me Valentina and Bags were teaching a Partner Possibilities workshop at Hoopcamp this fall. Now even I can juggle and partner hoop! Looking forward to teaching those new skills to my hoop friends and maybe even my husband. Enjoy the interview and please explore the many, many links to her work. Happy Hooping! Video Goodness Unity YouTube Channel Twisted Orbit YouTube Channel Circling the Infinite – Twisted Orbit Twisted Orbit Manipulation Theater June 2015 Unity Hoops Website Unity Hoops Facebook Page Twisted Orbit Facebook Page Performers Without Borders https://vimeo.com/135901309 https://pwbblog.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/sombra-2/ Hoopcamp Retreats DNA Lounge Music by the dawn machine https://soundcloud.com/thedawnmachine/sets…
Hello and welcome to the blog and podcast! Love me some Caroleeena! I love this woman so much! Carolyn Mabry, aka Caroleeena (with 3 E’s!), is a pioneer in the hooping community. She was one of the first hoopers to put tutorials up on YouTube. Can you imagine? Have you searched on hooping tutorials lately? She taught and performed at Hoopcamp this year and there was NO WAY I was going to miss her. Her chest hooping video is how I learned to chest hoop and I share that video with all of my students. Teaching Fancy Footwork This lady is also helping hoopers put dance into their hoopdance through a Facebook group called “Putting the Dance in Hoopdance.” The goal is to dance first, hoop second. Every week she encourages members to explore a different aspect of dance and create and share a video. The results are very fun and inspiring. Definitely check it out. After listening to this interview, please check out all the links I’ve provided on the blog. There’s tons of good information on Caroleeena, how to subscribe to her YouTube Channel, witness some of her performances and sign up for Interdependence 2015 – An Exploration Of Fire Theater. Happy Hooping! Must-Have Links & Videos: Interdependence 2015 – An Exploration Of Fire Theater (3-day Fire Retreat!) Putting the Dance Into Hoopdance Facebook Group Subscribe to Caroleeena’s YouTube Channel Caroleeena’s Circles of Joy (Blog) Hoopcamp Hoop Convergence This is the video that changed my life. I share it with all of my beginning hoop students. Caroleeena’s Performance: Hoopcamp Presenters Showcase 2014 Fire Performance with the Fire Conclave at SPARKcon…
Karma on Grimm The whole reason I started doing this was because I like talking to fellow hoopers. I want to know how they got into hooping, where they’re from, what has been their journey so far. Karma on the left. Karma is, for me, one of those people you just instantly like. She has a giant smile that will melt your heart. We met and hit it off on the set of NBC’s Grimm which is shot in Portland. We were both extras for Season 3, Episode 16 “The Show Must Go On” in which we were Steampunk Carnies. She had a featured part as an LED hooper at night at the carnival. It was so fun! Very cold on those days too so we huddled under coats together between takes. I met a lot of awesome and talented people in that short time on set including performers from Cloud City Circus. A few of us extras met up a while later to see a show and had ourselves a little Grimm reunion. Me in pink hair! Hoops in the background. Karma shares her passion for circles – I can relate! – having recently become obsessed with the aerial lyra. As a member of the Cloud City Circus, she performs regularly at the Analog Cafe here in Portland. So in this interview I mention A.T. of Wicked Hoops running the Thursday summer hoop jam at Colonel Summers Park. She moved to Colorado earlier in 2014. The hoop jam still goes on in the summer but other hoopers share the roll of running it. We miss you AT!!! Now let’s get to know Karma! Cloud City Circus Performances Cloud City Circus Facebook Page Analog Cafe Currently, Karma also Go-Go Hoopdances at the “ I Don’t Know Bar & Grill ” in Boring, Oregon.…
With Caterina at her Breathing Breaks worksop in Portland, Oregon, 2013 This interview took place a little over a year ago around Christmas of 2013 when Caterina was in Portland teaching her workshop, “Breathing Breaks.” She was on the verge of setting up her Etsy shop and website for her stunning jewelry and was rehearsing for performance at The Flow Show in New York. We were blessed with a sneak peek of that performance in the workshop and then earlier this year I saw the whole performance in person at Hoopcamp. Beautiful! And at the renegade show, she was a pretty convincing trucker-hat-wearing dude. Incandescent Coils HoopSeed Pendant I also saved up a little extra cash to treat myself to one of her Incandescent Coils pendants. This incredible lady has such an amazing life story about finding inspiration, creating, performing, traveling, the hoop community and her dream of living in South America. Get inspired to create something, anything! And happy hooping! Caterina’s performance at The Flow Show NYC 2013 The Red Dress at Hoopcamp Presenters Showcase 2014 Nooping!…
Hello hoopers, hoopers in the making and hooper lovers! I met my goal!!! I got my tenth episode done before the new year!! My next goal is to make this podcast professional. What does that mean? It means a simple and redesigned website, sponsors, advertisers, maybe even some fun prizes. I want to bring hoopers from around the world to your ears and hearts. If you’re interested in helping me make this a reality and bring it to the masses in a more polished formed, you can reach me at hoopanista (at) hulahoopla (dot) com. Thanks! On this episode – EPISODE 10!! – I talk with Antonio Gomez of the San Francisco Bay Area Hoopers, or BAH. And I saved this one, my 10th episode to honor BAH’s 10th Anniversary! So cool. I haven’t even known about hooping, as I’ve come to know it, for 10 years!! Antonio Gomez I met Antonio when I came to my first BAH hoop jam in December of 2012 and felt an immediate connection. I had just started coming down to the Bay Area to visit my long-distance fella and wanted to meet hoopers in area. Headed over from East Bay to Inner Space in San Francisco and I have to admit I was pretty nervous, sort like I was on someone else’s turf. Aren’t we our own worst enemy?! I was welcomed with open arms and had a blast. My guy came along and hooped with me! If you’re ever in the Bay Area, check out BAH’s weekly indoor hoop jam. Right now going into 2014 it’s every Sunday, 1:00pm – 3:00pm at Inner Mission, 2050 Bryant Street in San Francisco. All experience levels welcome and kick in some cash to support the group. I’m putting this episode out while I’m down in the Bay Area for Christmas and the New Year and will indeed be heading to a BAH hoop jam. Can’t wait! Weekly Indoor Hoop Jam Every Sunday 1pm-3pm Inner Mission 2050 Bryant Street, San Francisco Bay Area Hoopers http://www.bayareahoopers.org Article on Bay Area Hoopers from Hooping.org http://www.hooping.org/2013/05/bay-area-hoopers-celebrates-ten-years/ Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/bayareahoopers/ Bay Area Hoopers Documentary by Victor “Supervictorio” Ibarra…
Hello hoopers, hoopers in the making and hooper lovers! OK. I have got to stop bitching about my voice recorder. It’s actually pretty cool. It’s operator error – it’s all me. So a big thank you goes out to my friend Joel again for loaning it to me! This is Episode 9. I had a fortuitous meeting with Beth Lavinder, of all places, at the last indoor hoop jam of the season for the Bay Area Hoopers in San Francisco! I was visiting the Bay Area and she was on her way to teach at Jaguar Mary’s Sacred Circularities in Bali. She told me she’s not really comfortable about talking about herself. I feel pretty lucky. She opened up and shared so much about herself and her hoop journey starting out in Carrboro, North Carolina seeing Vivian (Spiral) for the first time, hooping with Julia Hartsell and Baxter and her experience with The Hoop Path. Beth Lavinder Beth is part of my hoop journey. The first time I saw her was at the Northwest Hoop Gathering in Bend, Oregon, April 2009. I walked into the big gym where the event was taking place and saw sooooooo many hoopers doing incredible things!! And Beth was one of them. She was rolling her hoop up her body with her hair flying. So beautiful. I saw her again at Hoop Convergence in North Carolina in 2010 and then we were actually able to sit down and talk at Hoopcamp in Santa Cruz in 2010. This is an incredible lady and an inspirational hooper. We really do have an amazing community. I hope to introduce you to so many of its members. Next episode is the 10th! And it is in honor of the Bay Area Hoopers’ 10th Anniversary. Happy Hooping! Beth Lavinder Interview with Hooping.org Sacred Circularities The Hoop Path Julia Hartsell Vivian (Spiral) Hoopcamp Hoop Convergence…
Hello hoopers, hoopers in the making and hooper lovers! I’m a lucky, lucky hooper! I love doing this podcast but it has been become difficult to put together due to the old age of my computer. But out of the blue, a brand new computer arrived on my doorstep a few weeks back. A gift from the wonderful man in my life. *happy sigh* So what does that mean?!!! Well, I’ve had 4 interviews in limbo and it’s been driving me crazy! I want to share these with you so badly. I’ve been a hooper officially since April 2009 and I feel I’m immersed in the hooping culture enough to be wonderfully geeky about the hoops, the performers, the instructors, the clothes, the retreats, all of it! And I want to share it as experienced by other hoopers. This episode is the “tease” episode. I started an interview with Valentina of Unity Hoops and Twisted Orbit in February in San Francisco…so long ago!! She was THEE reason I started taking Burlesque classes which in itself is the art of teasing. I wish I could take all of her classes in San Diego and be in her hoop troupe, The Hoop Unit! So, during our interview – which was AMAZING! – I did not hit the record button twice and didn’t get any of the main interview. So sad. But I did get a little taster, a tease if you will, before and after. Me and Valentina In addition, I sat down to interview two of my friends in Washington State, successfully recorded one interview in which we discussed, in length, how to hoop on rollerblades – I’m still hoping for either a video or a picture as proof! – and hooping blindfolded with Baxter. As we were about to start the second interview with my friend Annie, my batteries died. What we were about to talk about is her 50th birthday party celebration. I got to hoop with fire for the very first time. My hoop mama, Merilieu, felt I was ready, loaned me her hoop so I could practice and I performed for Annie using the same music that my hoop mama did for her fire hoop debut. And it was a total surprise for Annie. Yay! I’ll be interviewing Annie again to talk about that night and her life after finding the hoop. Yet another tease!!!! Andreas and Annie Stay tuned for a follow up interview with Valentina. Her life has really taken off. She’s teamed up with UK Hooper Steve Bags and together they’ve created Twisted Orbit. Also her troupe, the Hoop Unit, went to the Burlesque Hall of Fame in Vegas this year! Tease, tease, tease! The glove is off, people! You know you want more! Well, I’m gonna give it to ya! After I put out this episode and Episode 9 with Beth Lavinder and Antonio Gomez for Episode 10 – because the Bay Area Hoopers (BAH) celebrated their 10th anniversary this year! – I want to make this podcast legit. I’ll be looking for advertisers, sponsors, interviewees, web designers and musicians to make this a hooper’s resource of hoop geekery and love! Till then, thanks for listening and happy hooping! Facebook Goodness Valentina Unity Unity Hoops The Hoop Unit Twisted Orbit Website Delights Unity Hoops My First Fire Performance at Annie’s Birthday Party http://youtu.be/DrJ3EMebcKI…
Hello hoopers, hoopers in the making and hooper lovers! Ooops! I was hoping to have this up before New Year’s Eve. Oh well… Long time no podcast! Sorry about that. I have an 8-year-old computer and it was full of photos, music and other podcasts. It’s not like I haven’t been doing hoop stuff…quite the contrary. I had this interview sitting on the recording device that I’m still borrowing from my friend, Joel. Thank you, Joel! Anyway, I interviewed Dustin Hubel and his lovely wife, Kay, on their honeymoon tour back in May – MAY!!! – of 2012. How embarrassing. His workshop on isolations and hooping with twins/doubles was amazing and so challenging. My brain definitely shorted out a few times! Despite that, he was a delight. Listen for yourselves! Thank you, Dustin & Kay! Dustin Hubel Dustin’s Facebook Page Revolva Hoopdance Article about Dustin & Kay’s Wedding Dudes of Hooping Calendar…
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