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They Wanted Justice with Chris, Cliff, Charles, and Tim
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Chris Turner. Clifton Yarborough. Charles Turner. Timothy Catlett.
Our guests today spent 30+ years behind bars, being a number and not a name. We made sure their names are right at the very beginning to honor Chris, Cliff, Charles, and Tim as human beings who were never just numbers.
The Catherine Fuller murder occurred in Washington, D.C. in 1984. During the trial, eight boys were tried (4 of which are our guests today), wrongfully convicted, and sentenced to about 30 years in prison each. Their story came to light in Tom Dybdahl’s new book When Innocence Is Not Enough. Tom was interviewed in the last episode, YouTube video interview here.
Tom summed up their story this way:
“The men – boys, mostly, when it all began – were just guys from the 8th and H NE neighborhood in D.C. They had limited education and experience and resources… But each of them had a core of basic honesty. Under immense pressure, day after day after day, that core never cracked.
They were offered leniency in exchange for statements of guilt… But they hadn’t done the crime, so they wouldn’t say otherwise.
They did not want mercy. They wanted justice. They got neither. Yet they endured. They never sold their integrity for their freedom.”
Having served their full sentences, Chris, Cliff, Charles, and Tim share with us their journey through prison, how they found the courage and strength to endure, and how they’ve created new lives after prison.
Links mentioned in this episode:
Guests:
Mayor's Office on Returning Citizen Affairs
Free Minds Book Club & Writing Workshop
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