Out of South Africa

Foreign Podicy

South Africa has been in the news lately. Most recently, it had elections. There’s also this: South Africa filed a lawsuit under the Genocide Convention to the International Court of Justice in The Hague, not against Hamas terrorists who invaded Israel and massacred more than a thousand Israelis and have since threatened to repeat the mass murders again and again, nor is it against Hamas’ patrons in Tehran who openly vow to eliminate Israel and exterminate Israelis. South Africa’s lawsuit is against Israel.

To unpack, host Cliff May is joined by Dr. Frans Cronje, former CEO of the South African Institute of Race Relations and current chair of the Social Research Foundation, who described the lawsuit as a significant contribution to Tehran’s “ideas war.” Also joining the conversation is Connor Pfeiffer, Director of Congressional Relations at FDD Action.

In addition to the case at The Hague, they also discuss how South Africa has evolved since the end of apartheid and its possible future trajectory — from its own domestic issues like stunted economic growth and rolling blackouts to regional ones like fending off the Islamic radicalization and Chinese, Russian, and Iranian neo-imperialism that has infected many of its African neighbors.