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Lucifer 323 + 324 "Quintessential Deckerstar" & "A Devil of My Word"

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“Quintessential Deckerstar” & “Devil of My Word” are so packed full of goodness to unpack we had to make notes for our conversation to make sure we didn’t miss anything.

When it comes to storytelling, these episodes provide some deeply satisfying (and tear-jerking) character development, especially for Dan (Kevin Alejandro), Charlotte (Tricia Helfer), and Maze (Lesley-Ann Brandt). When it comes to performance, they absolutely convince us that Tom Ellis actually has wings which can stop bullets, but only with great pain to their owner. And when it comes to female characters’ badassery, these two episodes deliver over and over again with Charlotte, Chloe (Lauren German), Maze, and Ella (Aimee Garcia).

In keeping with our own fascinations, we spend some time talking about mental health and cosmological implications of the storytelling. For the former, we note the comfort these episodes can provide when Lucifer’s devilishness is seen as an allegory for mental illness, truama, or other circumstances one might want to hide or be ashamed of. For the cosmology, we question the veracity of even hardened criminals opening fire on a literal angel and double down on our own shared head cannon that there are ways for Hell to hold on to souls that caused harm and acted badly even when those individuals do not feel guilt about their actions.

Tracie was recovering from a chest cold, and never did remember the final thought she mentioned.

CW: discussion of gendered violence (compliant with that depicted in the show), including a serial abuser holding a knife to his girlfriend’s throat.

Mentioned in this episode
Mr. Snuffalupagus (who everyone can see now)

Originally published as a YouTube show with different theme music.

Our theme song is "Feral Angel Waltz" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

To learn more about Tracie and Emily and our other projects, to support us, and join the Guy Girls' family, visit us on Patreon.

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Chapters

1. Lucifer 323 + 324 "Quintessential Deckerstar" & "A Devil of My Word" (00:00:00)

2. Analyzing the Deeper Meaning of Lucifer (00:00:04)

3. Villainy and Acceptance in Lucifer's Relationship (00:09:37)

4. Chloe's Hair and Bulletproof Vest Discussion (00:16:48)

5. Discussion on Character Development in Lucifer (00:23:07)

6. Character Development of Dan, Charlotte, Maze (00:27:55)

48 episodes

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Send us a text

“Quintessential Deckerstar” & “Devil of My Word” are so packed full of goodness to unpack we had to make notes for our conversation to make sure we didn’t miss anything.

When it comes to storytelling, these episodes provide some deeply satisfying (and tear-jerking) character development, especially for Dan (Kevin Alejandro), Charlotte (Tricia Helfer), and Maze (Lesley-Ann Brandt). When it comes to performance, they absolutely convince us that Tom Ellis actually has wings which can stop bullets, but only with great pain to their owner. And when it comes to female characters’ badassery, these two episodes deliver over and over again with Charlotte, Chloe (Lauren German), Maze, and Ella (Aimee Garcia).

In keeping with our own fascinations, we spend some time talking about mental health and cosmological implications of the storytelling. For the former, we note the comfort these episodes can provide when Lucifer’s devilishness is seen as an allegory for mental illness, truama, or other circumstances one might want to hide or be ashamed of. For the cosmology, we question the veracity of even hardened criminals opening fire on a literal angel and double down on our own shared head cannon that there are ways for Hell to hold on to souls that caused harm and acted badly even when those individuals do not feel guilt about their actions.

Tracie was recovering from a chest cold, and never did remember the final thought she mentioned.

CW: discussion of gendered violence (compliant with that depicted in the show), including a serial abuser holding a knife to his girlfriend’s throat.

Mentioned in this episode
Mr. Snuffalupagus (who everyone can see now)

Originally published as a YouTube show with different theme music.

Our theme song is "Feral Angel Waltz" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

To learn more about Tracie and Emily and our other projects, to support us, and join the Guy Girls' family, visit us on Patreon.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Lucifer 323 + 324 "Quintessential Deckerstar" & "A Devil of My Word" (00:00:00)

2. Analyzing the Deeper Meaning of Lucifer (00:00:04)

3. Villainy and Acceptance in Lucifer's Relationship (00:09:37)

4. Chloe's Hair and Bulletproof Vest Discussion (00:16:48)

5. Discussion on Character Development in Lucifer (00:23:07)

6. Character Development of Dan, Charlotte, Maze (00:27:55)

48 episodes

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