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In this episode of PRETEND, we meet “Ashley”—not her real name—who recorded hours of arguments with her husband in an effort to understand what was happening inside her marriage. From the outside, it looked like petty spats over groceries or laundry. But when you hear the audio, you realize this was something darker.
Ashley’s husband was emotionally abusive, manipulative, and battling addiction. It wasn’t until COVID lockdowns that his mask slipped and she could see who he really was. He used suicide threats to control her, drained her financially, and isolated her from support. And yet, as is often the case with narcissists, everyone else thought he was the victim.
This is not one of the most outrageous stories we’ve told on PRETEND—but it’s one of the most common. It’s a story many people quietly live through and struggle to name. This is what emotional abuse sounds like.
🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:
- Constant criticism or belittling (often about “small” things like chores or tone of voice)
- Love-bombing followed by extreme withdrawal or cruelty
- Gaslighting: making you question your memory, reality, or emotions
- Isolation from friends, family, or support systems
- Walking on eggshells to avoid setting them off
- Financial control or sabotage
- Using guilt, blame, or self-harm threats to manipulate behavior
- Alternating between praise and punishment
- Jealousy of your attention—especially toward children
📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help:
- National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — Free, confidential, 24/7
- Psychology Today Therapist Finder: psychologytoday.com
- Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services (SAMHSA) Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357)
- Narcissist Abuse Recovery Support: DomesticShelters.org – Includes emotional abuse filters
- One Mom’s Battle: onemomsbattle.com – Focused on divorcing narcissists and protecting children
- Love is Respect (for younger listeners): loveisrespect.org
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In this episode of PRETEND, we meet “Ashley”—not her real name—who recorded hours of arguments with her husband in an effort to understand what was happening inside her marriage. From the outside, it looked like petty spats over groceries or laundry. But when you hear the audio, you realize this was something darker.
Ashley’s husband was emotionally abusive, manipulative, and battling addiction. It wasn’t until COVID lockdowns that his mask slipped and she could see who he really was. He used suicide threats to control her, drained her financially, and isolated her from support. And yet, as is often the case with narcissists, everyone else thought he was the victim.
This is not one of the most outrageous stories we’ve told on PRETEND—but it’s one of the most common. It’s a story many people quietly live through and struggle to name. This is what emotional abuse sounds like.
🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:
- Constant criticism or belittling (often about “small” things like chores or tone of voice)
- Love-bombing followed by extreme withdrawal or cruelty
- Gaslighting: making you question your memory, reality, or emotions
- Isolation from friends, family, or support systems
- Walking on eggshells to avoid setting them off
- Financial control or sabotage
- Using guilt, blame, or self-harm threats to manipulate behavior
- Alternating between praise and punishment
- Jealousy of your attention—especially toward children
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- National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — Free, confidential, 24/7
- Psychology Today Therapist Finder: psychologytoday.com
- Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services (SAMHSA) Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357)
- Narcissist Abuse Recovery Support: DomesticShelters.org – Includes emotional abuse filters
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- Love is Respect (for younger listeners): loveisrespect.org
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAfter a one-night hookup with a fan-turned-client, former Bachelor star Clayton Echard faced an unexpected legal battle — and public accusations that threatened to ruin his life. In this episode, we unpack the early timeline of Clayton’s explosive case with Laura Michelle Owens, who claimed she was pregnant with his twins… despite his insistence they never had sex. But Clayton wasn’t her first target. When no one else believed him, the internet showed up and started pulling Laura’s story apart. Stayed tuned for part 2 and 3 of the "Internet Saves the Bachelor." Be the first to listen on Patreon and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast . Credits: Hosted, Produced: Javier Leiva Written by: Mackenzie Ames Additional Reporting: The Dating Detectives Podcast References: https://allthebestresearch.com Dave Neal's YouTube: https://youtube.com/@davenealcomedian?si=buUz1EGyODwQ6aGv https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Laura_Michelle_Owens_-_Court_Case_History https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeForClayton/ https://victimsoflauraowens.com/coverage/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAfter publishing the story of a woman trapped in a marriage with a narcissist, I wasn't sure how it would land. It wasn’t flashy. It didn’t end in violence or arrest. But the response was overwhelming. Listeners wrote in to say, “That was me.” Some still carry the trauma years later. Others are just now realizing what they went through was abuse. In this episode, we hear from listeners who saw their own relationships reflected in Ashley’s story. We also speak with criminal behavior analyst Laura Richards to understand how abuse often hides in plain sight—through gaslighting, coercive control, and emotional manipulation. And we ask: what happens when the narcissist isn’t a partner—but a parent? Or when the survivor is a man? This bonus episode is about the quiet kind of abuse—the kind people are afraid to talk about but desperately need to hear. 🔊 Featuring: Laura Richards and listeners who bravely shared their experiences ⚠️ Trigger warning: discussions of abuse, addiction, and coercive control 🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse: Love-bombing followed by emotional withdrawal or cruelty Gaslighting: making you doubt your memory, emotions, or reality Blaming you for their self-harm threats or emotional instability Constant criticism or belittling over mundane issues Financial control or sabotage Isolating you from family or friends Guilt-tripping, triangulation, or passive-aggressive threats Refusing accountability or twisting facts during arguments 📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help: National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.) : 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — 24/7, free, confidential Psychology Today Therapist Finder : psychologytoday.com SAMHSA National Helpline : 1-800-662-HELP (4357) – for substance abuse and mental health support Domestic Shelters : domesticshelters.org – helps identify resources near you One Mom’s Battle : onemomsbattle.com – for navigating high-conflict custody and divorce Love is Respect : loveisrespect.org – support for young people in abusive relationships Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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